Front wheel play/movement

autoenthusiast · 5th March 2007, 23:43

Folks, I went ahead and upgraded my santro tyres to Bridgestone ER60 tubeless 166/65R13 today.

When we were changing the front right tyre we noticed that the wheel has a bit of play in it, meaning if you hold the wheel and shake it, it moves by around half a centimetre on each side. I have also been getting a knocking sound on potholes from the front right wheel for the last 1 week.
Plan to check it with the ASC tomorrow.

Anyone experienced similar issues ?

Thanks in advance

Pankaj401 · 6th March 2007, 00:19

Would that be CV joints?

Su-47 · 6th March 2007, 00:26

Check if you are experiencing the same issue as discussed in this thread:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ighlight=rings

autoenthusiast · 6th March 2007, 01:13

Folks, first of all thanks for the quick replies. This is what I love about the team-bhp website.

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Check if you are experiencing the same issue as discussed in this thread:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ighlight=rings (Solution for vibrations after installing alloy wheels)

I went through the above thread, I have stock steel rims and don't have wheel rings put on the car too. It seems to be some play that's developed in the front right wheel. If the vehicle is put on the lift in front and the tyre is shaken, it moves slightly. The garage that replaced my tyres said that it might be some play in the front right wheel axle, plan to check it out at the Hyundai ASC tomorrow.

chetanhanda · 6th March 2007, 01:38

does it shake when you pull it outward from one side of the tyre, does it have some play perpendicular to the wheel ?
Could be a bearing issue also..bearing worn out/damaged or something ?

autoenthusiast · 6th March 2007, 01:45

It just shakes a bit in any direction. A play of slightly less than half centimetre. Not sure where the problem could lie, shall update you all after my visit to the Hyundai ASC tomorrow.

autoenthusiast · 6th March 2007, 01:59

chetanhanda, I think you struck the right chord.
After reading on couple of websites about wheel bearings, it looks like a front wheel bearing issue. Shall let you know tomorrow if it was the case. Thanks.

chetanhanda · 6th March 2007, 03:48

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Originally Posted by autoenthusiast

It just shakes a bit in any direction.

sounds pretty bad..a few more pot holes and play is going to increase...

chetanhanda · 6th March 2007, 03:49

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Originally Posted by autoenthusiast

chetanhanda, I think you struck the right chord.
After reading on couple of websites about wheel bearings, it looks like a front wheel bearing issue. Shall let you know tomorrow if it was the case. Thanks.

ok lets see...plz let us know what was the real cause...

autoenthusiast · 6th March 2007, 10:55

Team, strangest thing, went to the Hyundai ASC and the wheel just does not shake or have any play. I could swear that at the tyre shop the same actually had a slight play, even the person changing my tyre told me that something was wrong.
The Hyundai service station claims that there's nothing wrong and the wheel does not have any play, hosted the car up on a ramp and tried everything, no movement !
Darn, wonder what just happened, now this actually will make me think twice about speeding on the Pune / Mumbai expressway.

tsk1979 · 6th March 2007, 14:46

Could be loose bolts. Since they are tightened now, no play.
The only other reason is bearing damage, but that usually shows other symptoms such as a constant buzzing sound at high speed.
Usually after a hard monsoon involving lot of wet driving, the bearings need to be changed.

autoenthusiast · 7th March 2007, 12:30

Thanks for the response.

Don't think it was loose bolts. The garage mechanic had tightened the same in front of me. Also after fitting the wheels and the right side was shaking, we didn't further tighten it.

Another thing is that I get a weird sound from my front right wheel when I hit a pothole.

Guess I'll monitor for sometime more and see what happens.

jyobeb · 7th March 2007, 16:52

Sounds like (the symptoms sounds so too) a steering end ball joint about to fail. Ask your mechanic to check the end on the side the sound seems to come from.

autoenthusiast · 8th March 2007, 00:34

Thanks jyobeb, you may be right, shall go to the Hyundai ASC and have them check it again.

I found the ASC pretty useless last time, when I complained about the wheel shaking, they only shook the wheel and said its not shaking and everything is alright, didn't even do a thorough check of the rest to see if there could be a problem.

autoenthusiast · 8th March 2007, 10:56

Folks, finally my problem is solved.

I went to a different Hyundai ASC today and explained the problem with the front right wheel.

They hoisted the car onto the ramp and upon checking found couple of bolts loose near the front wheel arm. They then proceeded to tighten all the bolts and now my vehicle is back to normal.

Don't know how the first service station missed it.

Thanks to all who respond to the thread.

5th March 2007, 23:43	#1
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	Front wheel play/movement Folks, I went ahead and upgraded my santro tyres to Bridgestone ER60 tubeless 166/65R13 today. When we were changing the front right tyre we noticed that the wheel has a bit of play in it, meaning if you hold the wheel and shake it, it moves by around half a centimetre on each side. I have also been getting a knocking sound on potholes from the front right wheel for the last 1 week. Plan to check it with the ASC tomorrow. Anyone experienced similar issues ? Thanks in advance
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6th March 2007, 00:19	#2
Pankaj401 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore, India Posts: 215 Thanked: 6 Times	Would that be CV joints?
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6th March 2007, 00:26	#3
Su-47 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 692 Thanked: 336 Times	Check if you are experiencing the same issue as discussed in this thread: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ighlight=rings
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6th March 2007, 01:38	#5
chetanhanda BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 887 Thanked: 49 Times View My Garage	does it shake when you pull it outward from one side of the tyre, does it have some play perpendicular to the wheel ? Could be a bearing issue also..bearing worn out/damaged or something ?
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6th March 2007, 01:45	#6
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	It just shakes a bit in any direction. A play of slightly less than half centimetre. Not sure where the problem could lie, shall update you all after my visit to the Hyundai ASC tomorrow.
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6th March 2007, 01:59	#7
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	chetanhanda, I think you struck the right chord. After reading on couple of websites about wheel bearings, it looks like a front wheel bearing issue. Shall let you know tomorrow if it was the case. Thanks.
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6th March 2007, 10:55	#10
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	Team, strangest thing, went to the Hyundai ASC and the wheel just does not shake or have any play. I could swear that at the tyre shop the same actually had a slight play, even the person changing my tyre told me that something was wrong. The Hyundai service station claims that there's nothing wrong and the wheel does not have any play, hosted the car up on a ramp and tried everything, no movement ! Darn, wonder what just happened, now this actually will make me think twice about speeding on the Pune / Mumbai expressway.
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6th March 2007, 14:46	#11
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Could be loose bolts. Since they are tightened now, no play. The only other reason is bearing damage, but that usually shows other symptoms such as a constant buzzing sound at high speed. Usually after a hard monsoon involving lot of wet driving, the bearings need to be changed.
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7th March 2007, 12:30	#12
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	Thanks for the response. Don't think it was loose bolts. The garage mechanic had tightened the same in front of me. Also after fitting the wheels and the right side was shaking, we didn't further tighten it. Another thing is that I get a weird sound from my front right wheel when I hit a pothole. Guess I'll monitor for sometime more and see what happens.
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7th March 2007, 16:52	#13
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Sounds like (the symptoms sounds so too) a steering end ball joint about to fail. Ask your mechanic to check the end on the side the sound seems to come from.
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8th March 2007, 00:34	#14
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	Thanks jyobeb, you may be right, shall go to the Hyundai ASC and have them check it again. I found the ASC pretty useless last time, when I complained about the wheel shaking, they only shook the wheel and said its not shaking and everything is alright, didn't even do a thorough check of the rest to see if there could be a problem.
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8th March 2007, 10:56	#15
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	Folks, finally my problem is solved. I went to a different Hyundai ASC today and explained the problem with the front right wheel. They hoisted the car onto the ramp and upon checking found couple of bolts loose near the front wheel arm. They then proceeded to tighten all the bolts and now my vehicle is back to normal. Don't know how the first service station missed it. Thanks to all who respond to the thread.
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