Team-BHP - 2nd-gen Mahindra Thar | Niggles, Problems & Solutions

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Originally Posted by wooka (Post 5410197)

Interestingly I have the identical manufacturing dates. However, I got my replacement from Nippon in June 2022. That was also the older hardware version.

P. S. Do you have an external temperature reading on your instrument cluster? And a single or double USB socket?

I have two USB sockets. Don't have external temperature reading in the instrument cluster.

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Originally Posted by sandeep_vgl (Post 5389438)

Finally, this thread caught my attention.

3. Grinding noise from the brakes which scares the hell out of you as if there is a stone stuck in between the pads. Happens when you suddenly encounter a deep depression (dip) on the road while driving at a consistent speed and with late braking, you just dive into the dip. Seems to be fixed during second service, haven't occurred since then.

I observed similar issue few times on my new Thar P MT HT, although it wasn’t a very loud noise just felt some feedback from brake when going over some potholes. It has happened only maybe 2-3 times in the last 20 days since our acquisition so did not heed much to it.

Although I am seeing some issue with the gear shift specifically when shifting to or from 2nd and 3rd gear. There seems to be a ‘tak’ sound and feels a bit hard.
Do you guys feel the gears a tad bit hard even in petrol? I am trying to find another petrol thar on which I can confirm unfortunately even the showroom does not have TD vehicle in petrol.

I have this problem on my Diesel MT : When doing a circle or a full turn, with steering at the full right position and at a lower speed ( sub 5 kmph), there is no traction on the wheels, the vehicle struggles to move and increasing vibrations. This is on a flat surface. Similar ( or worse ) situation when doing a full right turn up a slope (e.g. a parking ramp) at sub 5kmph, it really struggles and sometimes even switches off on the ramp ( something like what would happen to a newbie driver trying to drive up a steep slope with insufficient clutch engagement at near 0). This is with a half-pressed clutch. It isnt an issue when going straight ( with all other constraints applicable ).

This is first gear + 2 wheel drive mode. The service advisor says he cannot spot such an issue - which is not correct. Increasingly, it's becoming difficult to show/explain/make them understand of such issues when it's instantaneously clear to you when you drive. It's incredibly frustrating that some of the major players in Bangalore have advisors that have no clue.

Any leads on what might be causing this problem?

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Originally Posted by airguitar (Post 5419001)

Any guidance here please?

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Originally Posted by airguitar (Post 5420368)

Any guidance here please?

Can you post a video?

I'd recommend doing this on a test-drive vehicle before you lodge a formal complaint. If this issue exists on TD Vehicle then I don't think there is anything much which can be done.

On the other hand apart from TD Vehicles test drive some other same variant models at the same situation. If they fare differently then you have a case and example to show to SA.

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Originally Posted by batish (Post 5420398)

Thanks, a video may not help as only a driver can feel it, nothing visible on a video. I spoke to @cool_dube and he mentioned that when front tyres are at a full turn and the vehicle is being pushed by the rear wheels' power, it is but natural for a vehicle to exhibit a bit of resistance to move forward ( plus given additional static friction due to wide tyres ). Apparently he has seen it on his thar too and is "expected" behaviour. If we reduce the turn by say 5 degrees, one can see that it moves forward more smoothly. It can be described as "a feeling as if the wheels are locking upon trying to move forward, leads to the vehicle stalling if you push harder without reducing the angle". More prominent on a slope up, but can be experienced even on a flat surface ( concrete or road tarmac or even mud ).

To your point, it makes absolutely sense to keep cross-driving others' vehicles to see if they have similar problems or not - certainly required given how Service Advisors brush away concerns (unless it's visibly major).

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Originally Posted by tilt (Post 5402899)

I use original Apple Lightning cables only, never used third-party ones. I have multiple such cables. One of the cables is faulty and results in millisecond-disconnects every couple of minutes or so (not just CarPlay, but also general charging in the car - I keep hearing the bong every time it disconnects and reconnects).

So, every time the disconnect happens, CarPlay restarts, Maps restarts, everything restarts.

If I use any cable other than that defective one, I have zero disconnects.

I discovered within a month of ownership that this was because of the one defective cable; and since then have had no disconnects at all, none, zero.

So, it is not a matter of original Apple cables or third-party cables, it is a matter of good vs. bad cables.

Cheers

No luck for me.

Carplay - New Apple / Belkin USB-A to Lightning cables keep disconnecting.
Android Auto - New Samsung, Oneplus, GoPro USB-A to USB-C cables keep disconnecting.

I've yet to find a cable that won't disconnect randomly.

These cables work perfectly in other cars. I would put the blame entirely on the Hardware / Software that Mahindra has used.

Two major issues I am facing in my Thar

1) Noticeably loud squeaking noise from both axles whenever the Thar goes over bumps, speedbreakers and rough roads

2) Whenever the car is turned right, a metallic screeching sound comes which is very loud. This metallic sound was a persistent issue and the service center failed miserably to rectify it despite keeping my car for 5 days. They had taken out the wheel and brake assembly to solve the issue and on 6th try the voice went away (after I showed them strange markings on the disc brake) only to return back after some days

Adding clip of screeching noise I added: https://youtube.com/shorts/8VycA5DIgKc?feature=share

The vehicle has done 9400km and is in its 6th month. The service center has failed miserably at all times to rectify the problem. I find these issues very irritating in a brand-new car and more frustrating is the fact that A.S.S is often clueless even post keeping the car 5 days under trial.
Sharing pics of strange markings on left disc (has unknown dark circular marking) and right disc (with no marking)

I Request dear members to please guide me in this problem if possible.

Despite:

Getting my USB sockets changed
Previous posts outlining my expenditure on 3 phones, new cables etc...
A head unit swap
And latest, using Carsifi wireless android dongle

The connection continues to be highly unstable and erratic in a vehicle without movement and when driving, both.

We have all hounded Mahindra to no avail.

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Originally Posted by strawmUnkey (Post 5421585)

No luck for me.

Carplay - New Apple / Belkin USB-A to Lightning cables keep disconnecting.
Android Auto - New Samsung, Oneplus, GoPro USB-A to USB-C cables keep disconnecting.

I've yet to find a cable that won't disconnect randomly.

These cables work perfectly in other cars. I would put the blame entirely on the Hardware / Software that Mahindra has used.

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Originally Posted by wooka (Post 5441980)

The connection continues to be highly unstable and erratic in a vehicle without movement and when driving, both.

We have all hounded Mahindra to no avail.

Same problem here. Last time I told MASS about this they updated the software, but this problem still exists, and MASS has no clue about this even after so long.

TBH, I had casually enquired people who had come in for service at that time about this issue but guess what, most of these owners didn't even connect their phones as this was their 3rd-4th vehicle which didn't see much running.

Today at 17269 km for the first time my Thar DPF CLOGGED & REGEN warning light came on simultaneously.

Tried entering PARK REGEN mode by parking the vehicle in flat surface, park brake on, gear neutral and navigating to
REGEN in DRIVER INFO SCREEN
as follows :- WARNING - DPF CLOGGED - REGEN REQUIRED. But vehicle didn't get to REGEN MODE even after multiple tries.

However after some trial and error in TRIP METER A page with Up-DN arrow button REGEN REQD again popped up and on Pressing OK vehicle RPM shot up to 2500 and vehicle got into REGEN MODE & Drive Info Display Showed REGEN IN PROGRESS.

It took 18 mins against manual suggested 30 mins to complete the REGEN and all warning lights went off.

Attaching a few pics before and during REGEN for reference.

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Originally Posted by wooka (Post 5441980)

one suggestion:

do not use belkin, anker or any 3rd party data cables. Use your original data cable that you get with phone.

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Originally Posted by lurker (Post 5459890)

one suggestion:

do not use belkin, anker or any 3rd party data cables. Use your original data cable that you get with phone.

Sorry if you follow my posts you'll see that I've used every cable under the sun, and multiple phones, creme de la creme.

The result is negative. There is no movement.
There have been a few issues open for a year now, nowhere close to resolution :
1. Android disconnection issues. Other random Android issues.
2. Random restarting of the instrument cluster while driving.
3. DEF nozzle clogging at altitude.
4. Battery drain issues (new.)
5. Non functional security system (across all Thars ever made.)

DRL is not working (randomly) in my Thar. Mostly it is happening with one DRL (right side). Whenever not working, if I switch off and start the car again, it starts work. Service center want to do the following: 1. Flash the firmware (done yesterday, but didn't solve the problem). 2. Check the wiring harness, 3. Replace the DRL.

Anyone faced similar issue? Since it is happening rare and at random, it is difficult to test.

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Originally Posted by r_devakumar (Post 5485761)

DRL is not working (randomly) in my Thar. Mostly it is happening with one DRL (right side).
Anyone faced similar issue? Since it is happening rare and at random, it is difficult to test.

This has happened to me 5 times over the last 2 years and 20550kms of ownership. For me it is the left side DRL. And as you said, I just switch off and switch on again and it starts working.