Hi,
Yet another issue with Deccan Honda...
During my last service, I was finding things while inspecting the car before delivery and to make me happy, the service engneer washed my car with a very high pressure water hose (in the dent and paint department). He washed the condenser fins also (in spite of me shouting on him "Don't..." as I somehow spotted that the water pressure was too high...)...and guess what, it made "holes" into the condeser. Fins completely detroyed wherever the hose was pointed!
First, the guy started telling me it's a non-issue,vfins are not that important, then tried to tell me the condenser was damaged even before I gave the car for servicing. I insisted that he caused it so he directed the hose onto a nearby car's condenser to prove that the water pressure did not cause it...and to his disappintment, created holes in that too! (it's really horrible to see these guys play around all the cars parked with them for service...)
When I theretened to escalate how it happened to his superiors, he immediately made a few phone calls, blaming the dent and paint guys for keeping an unusually high water pressure (claiming the service guys never used that pump!)...
Then with a lot of arguments, hassles (and mostly due to my good relations with the body shop in-charge), they told me they will replace my condenser with a new one. I was asked to wait.
Knowing how they function, i kept walking to the car to ensure they really do it and do it fast...(all that is another story worth a report. They made a few calls within the service center to see if there is any car that's going to be there for long, may be for a accident repair, etc, from which they can take out the condenser and give it to me! When I intervened, they reluctantly gave me a new one...).
Finally, they hooked it to the AC refrigerant Gas recharging station and discharged the gas (I think), replaced the new condenser and filled recharged the gas. Again the guy doing it did it so reluctantly that he tried to force the new unit into the position without removing a couple of nuts on the front grill thereby damaging the fins on the new condenser ata couple of places....Now I screamed...so the "engineer" came in, removed the nuts and did it the way it was supposed to be done....
They demoed to me that all is well and the cabin is cooling nicely, so I went off happily.
Today, I was desparately searching for NHC service manual and I found one that comes close:
http://www.hondafitjazz.com/manual.htm
As I read the A/C condenser relacement section, here is what Honda says:
A/C Condenser Replacement
1.[COLOR=#800080]Recover the refrigerant with a recovery/recycling/charging station.[/COLOR]
2.[COLOR=#800080]Remove the front bumper.[/COLOR]
3.Remove the bolts, then disconnect the discharge line (A) and the receiver line (B) from the condenser. Plug or cap the lines immediately after disconnecting them to avoid moisture and dust contamination.
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4.Remove the compressor clutch connector (A) from the condenser fan shroud, and disconnect the condenser fan connector (B). Remove the mounting bolts and the upper brackets (C), then remove the condenser (D) by lifting it up. Be careful not to damage the condenser fins when removing the condenser.
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5.Install the condenser in the reverse order of removal, and note these items.
- If you're installing a new condenser, [COLOR=#800080]add refrigerant oil (KEIHIN SP-10).[/COLOR]
- Replace the O-rings with new ones at each fitting, and apply a thin coat of refrigerant oil before installing them. Be sure to use the right O-rings for HFC-134a (R-134a) to avoid leakage.
- Immediately after using the oil, reinstall the cap on the container, and seal it to avoid moisture absorption.
- Do not spill the refrigerant oil on the vehicle; it may damage the paint; if the refrigerant oil contacts the paint, wash it off immediately.
- Be careful not to damage the condenser fins when installing the condenser.
A/C Refrigerant Oil Replacement
Recommended PAG oil: KEIHIN SP-10:
- P/N 38897-P13-003: 120 mL (4 fl·oz, 4.2 Imp·oz)
- P/N 38898-P13-003: 250 mL (8 1/3 fl·oz, 8.8 Imp·oz)
- P/N 38899-P13-A01: 40 mL (1 1/3 fl·oz, 1.4 Imp·oz)
Add the recommended refrigerant oil in the amount listed if you replace any of the following parts.
- To avoid contamination, do not return the oil to the container once dispensed, and never mix it with other refrigerant oils.
- Immediately after using the oil, reinstall the cap on the container, and seal it to avoid moisture absorption.
- Do not spill the refrigerant oil on the vehicle; it may damage the paint; if it gets on the paint, wash it off immediately.
Condenser . 25 mL (5/6 fl·oz, 0.9 lmp·oz) Evaporator . 35 mL (1 1/6 fl·oz, 1.2 lmp·oz) Line or hose . 10 mL (1/3 fl·oz, 0.4 lmp·oz) Leakage repair . 25 mL (5/6 fl·oz, 0.9 lmp·oz) Compressor . For compressor replacement, subtract the volume of oil drained from the removed compressor from 85 mL (2 5/6 fl·oz, 3.0 lmp·oz), and drain the calculated volume of oil from the new compressor: 85 mL ( 2 5/6 fl·oz, 3.0 lmp·oz) - Volume of removed compressor = Volume to drain from new compressor.
NOTE: Even if no oil is drained from the removed compressor, don't drain more than 50 mL (1 2/3 fl·oz, 1.8 lmp·oz) from the new compressor.
Now I am sure they did not add those 25ml of refrigerant oil when they replaced my condenser.
I am really pissed of now.
WHat should I do?
Will this be a real problem? It's been 2500 KM after the incident and AC is running fine. I hope there is no silent damage beng caused to the compressor due to this neglegence by Deccan Honda.
Please advice.