Baleno at 160kmh steering problem

spider77 · 4th August 2007, 11:19

hi

recently i when was driving my baleno on NH7, i faced a weird problem.The steering of the car which is electronic was behaving perfectly till 140kmh, it was hard, car was completely in control but when i was crossed this speed the steering got very light, at 160 and 180 kmh, it was very nervous ,its like a normal power steering where a light rotation can make a sharp move on car.it feels very risky.
I have put 15 inch yokos avs sports on HR rims.

Can u guys help on this , is it normal with baleno or some kind of defect..

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esteem_lover · 4th August 2007, 16:04

AFAIK, the baleno does not have a EPS, correct me if i am wrong.

binz · 4th August 2007, 16:04

Steering is hydraulic not electric.

Jaggu · 4th August 2007, 16:41

What do you mean by light, yes as speed increase the steering will become sharper, but thats the way it is supposed to be.

Optimus Prime · 4th August 2007, 16:45

i have a similar problem with my lancer. when i cross 130... if i'm accelerating, the steering may or may not be fine. but if i'm decelerating from anything between 160-120, the steering feel starts vibrating like mad, with a continuous khatkhat khat khat sound. it doesnt effect the driving in any way but your hands go sore. i spoke to he showroom guys and they say some bush has to be replaced. the lancer has done around 50000 kms... what is this bush they're talking about??

Jaggu · 4th August 2007, 17:13

@optimus: ask them the name and post, hope you have cleared the option of wheel balancing already.

Balance rod/lower arm/tie rod end all these can be culprits in your case since car has done 50000 kms

ashishjhamb · 4th August 2007, 18:21

i also have the same problem in my baleno........this starts after 140kmph.....but still have touched it till 170...mine is 2006 baleno....n running on stock tyres..But i believe it is normal.....if this happens at high speed...

spadival · 4th August 2007, 18:26

The steering on my Baleno vibrates at around 120kmph.. Thats probably because of wheel alignment issues. Havent fixed it yet.. prefer to limit myself to sane speed limits. IMHO, its madness to cross 120kmph on ANY Indian roads.

Jaggu · 4th August 2007, 18:30

@spadival: its wheel balancing issue that the wheels are vibrating.

premdiv · 4th August 2007, 22:10

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Originally Posted by spadival

The steering on my Baleno vibrates at around 120kmph.. Thats probably because of wheel alignment issues. Havent fixed it yet.. prefer to limit myself to sane speed limits. IMHO, its madness to cross 120kmph on ANY Indian roads.

I also have similar problem when i cross 120 kph. Think this is the problem with wheel alignment itself.

kpzen · 4th August 2007, 23:06

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Originally Posted by premdiv

I also have similar problem when i cross 120 kph. Think this is the problem with wheel alignment itself.

Thats a wheel balancing issue.

BlackPearl · 5th August 2007, 05:02

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Originally Posted by spider77

Can u guys help on this , is it normal with baleno or some kind of defect..

@spider, this is not normal in a Baleno. get your tires, rims, wheel balacing checked.

1100D · 5th August 2007, 06:30

Seemingly a wheel balancing issue, could also be your front bearings (but that would tell itself at other times)

edit - get your toe setting checked as well.

1100D · 5th August 2007, 06:34

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Originally Posted by Optimus Prime

i have a similar problem with my lancer. when i cross 130... if i'm accelerating, the steering may or may not be fine. but if i'm decelerating from anything between 160-120, the steering feel starts vibrating like mad, with a continuous khatkhat khat khat sound. it doesnt effect the driving in any way but your hands go sore. i spoke to he showroom guys and they say some bush has to be replaced. the lancer has done around 50000 kms... what is this bush they're talking about??

Optimus, if I am not mistaken, when you are decelerating, you are decelerating on the brakes right? If yes, then the issue is most probably your front rotors. If you have machined it, let me inform you, that machining can only smoothen the rotor surface but cannot align the rotor. Replace the front rotors it will be fine. I have faced this a lot of times, and is an indicator of when to change rotors.

Optimus Prime · 5th August 2007, 09:54

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Originally Posted by 1100D

Optimus, if I am not mistaken, when you are decelerating, you are decelerating on the brakes right? If yes, then the issue is most probably your front rotors. If you have machined it, let me inform you, that machining can only smoothen the rotor surface but cannot align the rotor. Replace the front rotors it will be fine. I have faced this a lot of times, and is an indicator of when to change rotors.

not only on the brakes, no need to use the brakes when you're dropping down from 130-150, lifting off the throttle is enough,, but it still shakes like crazy...

4th August 2007, 11:19	#1
spider77 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 126 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Baleno at 160kmh steering problem hi recently i when was driving my baleno on NH7, i faced a weird problem.The steering of the car which is electronic was behaving perfectly till 140kmh, it was hard, car was completely in control but when i was crossed this speed the steering got very light, at 160 and 180 kmh, it was very nervous ,its like a normal power steering where a light rotation can make a sharp move on car.it feels very risky. I have put 15 inch yokos avs sports on HR rims. Can u guys help on this , is it normal with baleno or some kind of defect.. Here r the pics :Picasa Web Albums - karan - elagiri P01 Picasa Web Albums - karan - elagiri P02
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4th August 2007, 16:04	#2
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	AFAIK, the baleno does not have a EPS, correct me if i am wrong.
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4th August 2007, 16:04	#3
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	Steering is hydraulic not electric. Last edited by binz : 4th August 2007 at 16:07.
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4th August 2007, 16:41	#4
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,905 Times	What do you mean by light, yes as speed increase the steering will become sharper, but thats the way it is supposed to be.
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4th August 2007, 16:45	#5
Optimus Prime BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 104 Thanked: 10 Times	i have a similar problem with my lancer. when i cross 130... if i'm accelerating, the steering may or may not be fine. but if i'm decelerating from anything between 160-120, the steering feel starts vibrating like mad, with a continuous khatkhat khat khat sound. it doesnt effect the driving in any way but your hands go sore. i spoke to he showroom guys and they say some bush has to be replaced. the lancer has done around 50000 kms... what is this bush they're talking about??
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4th August 2007, 17:13	#6
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,905 Times	@optimus: ask them the name and post, hope you have cleared the option of wheel balancing already. Balance rod/lower arm/tie rod end all these can be culprits in your case since car has done 50000 kms
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4th August 2007, 18:21	#7
ashishjhamb Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 9 Thanked: 0 Times	i also have the same problem in my baleno........this starts after 140kmph.....but still have touched it till 170...mine is 2006 baleno....n running on stock tyres..But i believe it is normal.....if this happens at high speed...
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4th August 2007, 18:26	#8
spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	The steering on my Baleno vibrates at around 120kmph.. Thats probably because of wheel alignment issues. Havent fixed it yet.. prefer to limit myself to sane speed limits. IMHO, its madness to cross 120kmph on ANY Indian roads.
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4th August 2007, 18:30	#9
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,905 Times	@spadival: its wheel balancing issue that the wheels are vibrating.
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5th August 2007, 06:30	#13
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,390 Thanked: 4,079 Times View My Garage	Seemingly a wheel balancing issue, could also be your front bearings (but that would tell itself at other times) edit - get your toe setting checked as well. Last edited by 1100D : 5th August 2007 at 06:31.
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