Ikon 1.6 - new O.E rotor or after market slotted ones

shazikon · 31st August 2007, 13:18

Hi there Bhpians,
Brakes on my ikon has been really bad these days and i took my car to metro ford for a checkup. The diagnosis was brake pads worn out, leakage in Master Cylinder seal, Rotor thickness is 17mm below minmum recomeded 18mm thickness (my car has run 67K kms).Ford recommends 18mm-21mm. And the service personnel recommends a new rotor. Got the pads and Master cylinder changed and ofcourse fresh brake fluid bled into the system, but the braking is still not sharp enough. I am wondering should i change to a new O.E rotor or go for aftermarket slotted/drilled ones with after market brake pads. I need some advise on this and also If i go for a after market rotor, which one would you suggest and how much and where can i get them in Bangalore? Do i have to change the master cylinder for a after market rotor and pads?

nitrous · 31st August 2007, 13:30

Let me know if U ever find aftermarket brake parts for the Ikon in our country.

shazikon · 31st August 2007, 13:38

Nitrous, i know its impossible to get after market parts for ikon with the same specs. but i guess some body would have upgraded a slotted/drilled rotor on an ikon?

planet_rocker · 31st August 2007, 17:14

can the OE ones be replaced by the Fiesta's braking system?

rohan_fonseca · 1st September 2007, 00:26

It will be difficult to find slotted rotors for the ikon. By all means avoid slotted rotors done DIY. Planet_rockers suggestion idea may be good. Check out wether possible.

kaynmantis · 22nd September 2007, 16:47

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can the OE ones be replaced by the Fiesta's braking system?

Anyone? Please post if anyone knows. Am not happy with my ikon brakes too.

lancersfx · 23rd September 2007, 14:17

with kaynmantis and shazikon I too own a 1.8D and the brakes are not good as expected.You get the feel of driving a truck with a full load when you brake. So anyone knowing a good set of aftermarket discs and brake pad set please let me know.

nitrous · 23rd September 2007, 16:11

Having driven the ikon for 80,000 kms.
I can say that the brake issue is basically with the booster which is quite moody. The booster doesn't provide an servo sometimes which is why the brakes feel inefficient.
I now have a new booster and the occurences have reduced drastically.But, haven't disappeared.
During my recent Chennai-Bangalore trip, the soft-compound Hankooks lock whenever I panic-braked.So, the braking efficiency is there.

shazikon · 24th September 2007, 00:04

Nitrous, i guess you are right.. i got the master cylinder changed as the piston gasket had worn out and was not effective. I can feel a slight difference / improvement now. Lately I have been thinking of another theory. Not enough hydraulic pressure from the master cylinder.. Reason, location of the master cylinder( far from the driver seat)..pistons not big enough. what do you guys think?

gaurav_diavolo · 24th September 2007, 00:21

I got mine 60+ and the brake pads need to be changed for the 4th time now! :( ..... but I have seen good improvement with Michelin radials.....its true that the brakes are real moody and when you need them the most they ditch you big time!........the josh of 1.6 would have certainly been 10 percent more with better brakes.....

kaynmantis · 26th September 2007, 10:55

shazikon, the "Not enough hydraulic pressure from the master cylinder" comment seems interesting. I too feel there is not enough pressure.

There are different Master Cylinders size available. Any idea whether ikon can take a bigger Master Cylinder (Assuming that bigger is better). Also I know only of TVS-GIRLING that makes this product. Any other reliable brand. TVS-GIRLING website can be found here >> Brakes India Limited

31st August 2007, 13:18	#1
shazikon BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 391 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	Ikon 1.6 - new O.E rotor or after market slotted ones Hi there Bhpians, Brakes on my ikon has been really bad these days and i took my car to metro ford for a checkup. The diagnosis was brake pads worn out, leakage in Master Cylinder seal, Rotor thickness is 17mm below minmum recomeded 18mm thickness (my car has run 67K kms).Ford recommends 18mm-21mm. And the service personnel recommends a new rotor. Got the pads and Master cylinder changed and ofcourse fresh brake fluid bled into the system, but the braking is still not sharp enough. I am wondering should i change to a new O.E rotor or go for aftermarket slotted/drilled ones with after market brake pads. I need some advise on this and also If i go for a after market rotor, which one would you suggest and how much and where can i get them in Bangalore? Do i have to change the master cylinder for a after market rotor and pads?
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31st August 2007, 13:30	#2
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Let me know if U ever find aftermarket brake parts for the Ikon in our country.
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31st August 2007, 13:38	#3
shazikon BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 391 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	Nitrous, i know its impossible to get after market parts for ikon with the same specs. but i guess some body would have upgraded a slotted/drilled rotor on an ikon?
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31st August 2007, 17:14	#4
planet_rocker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bong-land Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 426 Times	can the OE ones be replaced by the Fiesta's braking system?
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1st September 2007, 00:26	#5
rohan_fonseca BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Panaji Posts: 984 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	It will be difficult to find slotted rotors for the ikon. By all means avoid slotted rotors done DIY. Planet_rockers suggestion idea may be good. Check out wether possible. Last edited by rohan_fonseca : 1st September 2007 at 00:29.
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23rd September 2007, 14:17	#7
lancersfx BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 225 Thanked: 44 Times View My Garage	I agree with kaynmantis and shazikon I too own a 1.8D and the brakes are not good as expected.You get the feel of driving a truck with a full load when you brake. So anyone knowing a good set of aftermarket discs and brake pad set please let me know.
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23rd September 2007, 16:11	#8
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Having driven the ikon for 80,000 kms. I can say that the brake issue is basically with the booster which is quite moody. The booster doesn't provide an servo sometimes which is why the brakes feel inefficient. I now have a new booster and the occurences have reduced drastically.But, haven't disappeared. During my recent Chennai-Bangalore trip, the soft-compound Hankooks lock whenever I panic-braked.So, the braking efficiency is there.
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24th September 2007, 00:04	#9
shazikon BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 391 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	Nitrous, i guess you are right.. i got the master cylinder changed as the piston gasket had worn out and was not effective. I can feel a slight difference / improvement now. Lately I have been thinking of another theory. Not enough hydraulic pressure from the master cylinder.. Reason, location of the master cylinder( far from the driver seat)..pistons not big enough. what do you guys think?
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24th September 2007, 00:21	#10
gaurav_diavolo BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaipur Posts: 148 Thanked: 91 Times	I got mine 60+ and the brake pads need to be changed for the 4th time now! :( ..... but I have seen good improvement with Michelin radials.....its true that the brakes are real moody and when you need them the most they ditch you big time!........the josh of 1.6 would have certainly been 10 percent more with better brakes.....
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26th September 2007, 10:55	#11
kaynmantis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 191 Thanked: 9 Times	shazikon, the "Not enough hydraulic pressure from the master cylinder" comment seems interesting. I too feel there is not enough pressure. There are different Master Cylinders size available. Any idea whether ikon can take a bigger Master Cylinder (Assuming that bigger is better). Also I know only of TVS-GIRLING that makes this product. Any other reliable brand. TVS-GIRLING website can be found here >> Brakes India Limited
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