Issues with Headers - Alto

Knight Rider · 12th September 2007, 16:39

Team,

Has anyone else done headers in a 3 cyl Alto? The Steel-Wool get's burned up really fast in my car, The result is an annoying sound to which is not really 'Music to ears' One solution that my installer has suggested is to go for a SS Expansion chamber and End-can,

What do you guys think the reason for this can be or do I have any other alternative other than going for the SS Chamber and end can?

All inputs would be valuable

Thanks in advance

n_aditya · 12th September 2007, 18:13

Our Tbhp member, speedzak has headers on his alto.

Contact him for any clarifications.

I faced a similar issue in my car (esteem with 4x1 headers) where there was way too much flutter from the end can. Sounded more like an interstate bus. But i switched to a SS muffler and now... problem solved.

A SS muffler wont cost more than 5k and you get a lot of mugen, magnaflow replica's in the market.

Knight Rider · 13th September 2007, 13:08

Hey thanks @n_adityaI had asked zak regarding this, and he also gave me the same reply, I cannot go for mugen or magnaflow replicas, It would look wierd on my alto, I already have an option for a custom SS muffler which is not as huge as the mugen or magnaflow replicas and expansion chamber,

However I wanted to know if there are any other options rather than this

speedzak · 13th September 2007, 13:41

Hey! I did reply yesterday. But for some reason the post didn't appear here it seems. Posted from my phone.

I had Automech FFE installed in my Alto. It was mild steel one and it did last all the while till the car did. I didn't have to change the steel wool even once. And it was more than a year or so.
Could you please check if there is any leakages in your exhaust? Especially near the joints. Who did the installation for you? Did you speak to the people who made the headers for you?

Knight Rider · 13th September 2007, 13:52

Thank you zakko, I got my headers done from Raj, , They suspect water seeping inside the expansion chamber and as a result the Glass-wool burns faster than it should so yes it can be a leak somewhere. Is there a simple way of checking it?

Advice was to go for a SS expansion chamber and a Muffler, I wanted to know if there is any other option available?

planet_rocker · 13th September 2007, 14:03

A bit offtopic:

how long do the MS headers, pipes, expansion chamber last?

@ zak - the exhaust in your alto is back to stock?

speedzak · 13th September 2007, 14:16

A very simple way of checking for leaks is to choke the engine. Yes! using some force, block the exhaust outlet while the engine is running. If it stops immediately, then there can't be a leak. If it carries on running (even if it is for sometime), or produces some leaking noises you can suspect a leak or two.

Oh my Alto! It is in a totalled state now! It had a BEEEG stunt and is almost beyond repair.

Knight Rider · 13th September 2007, 14:49

Yeah, That is a very innovative way to check for leaks if any, Thanks Zakko,

I didnt know about your car, Sorry about that? Is it a Total loss? Are you planning to bring it back to life????

Planet rocker, As far as I know anywhere between 1-1 1/2 years, Again there are cases wherin the same has been used for 3 or 4 years without any issues, A lot depends on your driving style

13th September 2007, 14:57

Hi,

This type of problem exists in alto ? I have bought one just now and its weird to hear this.! :(

Thanks.

rishibravo · 13th September 2007, 15:59

Hey Tapan ... Trust me you dont have headers in your new alto.. So you dont worry about this... The day you get a Free Flow exhaust fitted in your car ,then you might need to visit this thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tapan

Hi,

This type of problem exists in alto ? I have bought one just now and its weird to hear this.! :(

Thanks.

12th September 2007, 16:39	#1
Knight Rider BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 282 Thanked: 28 Times	Issues with Headers - Alto Team, Has anyone else done headers in a 3 cyl Alto? The Steel-Wool get's burned up really fast in my car, The result is an annoying sound to which is not really 'Music to ears' One solution that my installer has suggested is to go for a SS Expansion chamber and End-can, What do you guys think the reason for this can be or do I have any other alternative other than going for the SS Chamber and end can? All inputs would be valuable Thanks in advance
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12th September 2007, 18:13	#2
n_aditya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 5,348 Thanked: 3,684 Times View My Garage	Our Tbhp member, speedzak has headers on his alto. Contact him for any clarifications. I faced a similar issue in my car (esteem with 4x1 headers) where there was way too much flutter from the end can. Sounded more like an interstate bus. But i switched to a SS muffler and now... problem solved. A SS muffler wont cost more than 5k and you get a lot of mugen, magnaflow replica's in the market.
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13th September 2007, 13:08	#3
Knight Rider BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 282 Thanked: 28 Times	Hey thanks @n_adityaI had asked zak regarding this, and he also gave me the same reply, I cannot go for mugen or magnaflow replicas, It would look wierd on my alto, I already have an option for a custom SS muffler which is not as huge as the mugen or magnaflow replicas and expansion chamber, However I wanted to know if there are any other options rather than this
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13th September 2007, 13:41	#4
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Hey! I did reply yesterday. But for some reason the post didn't appear here it seems. Posted from my phone. I had Automech FFE installed in my Alto. It was mild steel one and it did last all the while till the car did. I didn't have to change the steel wool even once. And it was more than a year or so. Could you please check if there is any leakages in your exhaust? Especially near the joints. Who did the installation for you? Did you speak to the people who made the headers for you?
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13th September 2007, 13:52	#5
Knight Rider BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 282 Thanked: 28 Times	Thank you zakko, I got my headers done from Raj, , They suspect water seeping inside the expansion chamber and as a result the Glass-wool burns faster than it should so yes it can be a leak somewhere. Is there a simple way of checking it? Advice was to go for a SS expansion chamber and a Muffler, I wanted to know if there is any other option available?
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13th September 2007, 14:03	#6
planet_rocker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bong-land Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 426 Times	A bit offtopic: how long do the MS headers, pipes, expansion chamber last? @ zak - the exhaust in your alto is back to stock?
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13th September 2007, 14:16	#7
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	A very simple way of checking for leaks is to choke the engine. Yes! using some force, block the exhaust outlet while the engine is running. If it stops immediately, then there can't be a leak. If it carries on running (even if it is for sometime), or produces some leaking noises you can suspect a leak or two. Oh my Alto! It is in a totalled state now! It had a BEEEG stunt and is almost beyond repair.
	() Thanks

13th September 2007, 14:49	#8
Knight Rider BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 282 Thanked: 28 Times	Yeah, That is a very innovative way to check for leaks if any, Thanks Zakko, I didnt know about your car, Sorry about that? Is it a Total loss? Are you planning to bring it back to life???? Planet rocker, As far as I know anywhere between 1-1 1/2 years, Again there are cases wherin the same has been used for 3 or 4 years without any issues, A lot depends on your driving style
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13th September 2007, 14:57	#9
Tapan Posts: n/a	Hi, This type of problem exists in alto ? I have bought one just now and its weird to hear this.! :( Thanks.
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