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Originally Posted by v1p3r Thad, what do you define as kiddy and grown up driving? You can do 60 kmph on the Koramangala-Indiranagar Inner RR. Whether you choose to do it at redline in 1st gear, or cruise along in 5th, is upto you. Whether you choose to quickshift, or lazily granny shift, is also upto you. I fail to see how this is dangerous. He's not talking about tailgating, swerving through traffic, or anything else that I would personally consider dangerous. |
Exactly. I don't know why people generally think that doing a certain speed in higher gear is safer than doing the same in a lower gear. When I ask this question people substantiate by providing the excuse: "I am preserving the engine". Hello???? What good would that do? Preserving the engine for what? Space travel? What they don't understand is that a lower gear will give them more throttle control than a higher gear and make them less prone to antics like locking up etc. in case of a emergency braking maneuver. Hell, I have seen people taking a 90 degree curve with the clutch depresssed.
Or better still they shift to neutral while going downhill, explanation given: Saving fuel and engine. I am sorry but I personally find this kind of driving a hell lot more irresponsible than me doing 80 in gear 2.
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Originally Posted by rocksterraghu Thad, there are times when the car needs to be tested to a particular extent. As long as they do it safely without interfering or disturbing public in general, even I would have no issues with it.
If done in an amateur fashion or for show-offs, as our thread creator mentioned, it is |
Thats what I am trying to do here, and I am sure many members do the same. A vehicle, be it a bike or a car is not merely a means of transport for me. At least, we should be happy that we are getting some stuff in India which is worth driving/riding hard. If the case was everyone shifting into 4th at 35 kph (thats what my first driving instructor told me to do) we would have still been stuck with the good ol' Ambys and Padminis. I don't know how many people would have appreciated that and felt that the roads would be "safer" rather than the reality we have here today, with Swifts to
Skoda RSs being available off the shelf for any driving enthusiast. I wouldn't be the one sharing the same opinion.
And showing off does not come close even to the last thing on my priority list. I just want to learn about how these things work, and thought that many knowledgeable members here would be able to provide an explanation for my query rather than condemning me for irresponsible driving.
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Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom He's talking about a very extreme driving style, which is certainly in my opinion, a very wrong driving style.
At least he says he only does it when the roads are empty, although I don't think imposing the noise on others at night is a good idea either. |
I am taking a wild guess here that you have never been to a state high above known as Uttar Pradesh.
Once you visit pretty much any city here, barring the capital maybe, your definitions and perceptions of safe driving will go for a spin to planet Mars.
I wouldn't elaborate as other people will get the drift by what I have said so far.
Small incident I would like to share with you though, Thad, to substantiate my point.
A couple of days back, I was on the State Highway. Was doing 80 kph in 4th (Car was a Baleno) and comfortably cruising in the right most lane sticking to the divider. There was a Tata 307 (the loader) three car lengths ahead of me. Suddenly, out of nowhere, the 307 swerved left and the next thing I see is, two cyclists coming on the wrong way in the right most lane, which is the fastest lane for oncoming traffic. I barely swerved and avoided them.
When I pulled over to the shoulder for some tea, I asked some locals what these guys were up to? The explanation was: "His village lies on the right side of the highway. So instead of taking a detour to the divider, he will come on the wrong side, in the fastest lane, so he doesn't have to cross the highway later.
Now that in my opinion is, as bad and dangerous other people can make for you here.
You see, I have countless incidents like this to tell, all happened during my one month trip here. But I just narrated one of them, to drive home my point. It doesn't matter if one drives at 120 kph or 12 kph, one can be danger to oneself and other road users irrespective of the speeds one is doing.
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Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom
This is kiddy stuff.
Sorry, but I do think that the city streets are a place for more grown-up driving. Even if every bus, truck and travels car in this city disagrees with me....
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I hope you are not saying that looking at my age in my profile.
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Originally Posted by rocksterraghu There sure is a bye-product than a by-product. |
There goes one of my rare typos. I thought it wouldn't be noticed.