Query regarding ford ikon!!

bdn317 · 27th September 2007, 15:04

Hi friends!!

I own a ford Ikon (03') with the rocam engine1.3. Its run around 25k kms.
Its still running with the bridgestone tyres(original fit). I recently have noticed a wierd sound (& a bit of vibration) when the vehicle is in motion. People here tel me the tyre threads have almost vanished!! but i dont think so!! the threads are still prominent!!
I have owned an opel astra before this!! i Hav used the opel for 7 years!! (97-03') I had similar bridgestone tyres on it!! But i never have noticed the above discussed sound in it!! so am confused!! i know that the tyres stil have a minimum life of 10k kms more!!

Pls give your comments regarding this matter!! how should i go about it!!

I also wanted to know if second hand alloy wheels are available for my vehicle!! how much would they cost approx!! and is it available in my city?? (mangalore)

Mr.Bangalore · 27th September 2007, 15:18

hi

Tyre does not depend on number of years, it all depends on how the car runs and the condition of road, in your case we cant tell exactly what could be the problem, if you can post some pics of tyres, we can help you out..

cheers

bdn317 · 27th September 2007, 15:25

thank you for your valuable suggestion sir!!

Will soon try to put some some snaps of my tyres!!

nitrous · 27th September 2007, 15:33

This might be a case of bent steel belts in the radials after 4 years of use.

kaynmantis · 3rd October 2007, 17:37

Vibrations are sometimes caused by poor wheel balance. But they cause vibrations only at higher speed, somewhere around 60kmph.

iraghava · 3rd October 2007, 20:05

Vibrations can either be caused by wonky Wheel Alignment or by tyres which have got bulges in them. Basically in the first case all you have to do is get the balancing done again but if the tyres have bluges than you have to replace them.

VC12 · 3rd October 2007, 21:26

get ur ikon wheel check, alingment or balancing.

at times the sound can be from shocks

nura · 3rd October 2007, 21:56

I remember reading somewhere that after 5-6 years tyres should be replaced even they are not worn out, as rubber deteriorates as it gets older.
For the same reason, it is important to check the manufacture date at the time of purchase of new tyres.

iraghava · 4th October 2007, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by nura

I remember reading somewhere that after 5-6 years tyres should be replaced even they are not worn out, as rubber deteriorates as it gets older.
For the same reason, it is important to check the manufacture date at the time of purchase of new tyres.

Yes, tyres generally have a life of around 5 years so it's recommended to replace them after that period (from the date of manufacturing) to ensure that there are no problems like sudden blowouts or poor grip due to ageing & hardening of the rubber.

VC12 · 4th October 2007, 12:26

Yes the tyre may get old, but one more fact is that tyres must be roatetd to different wheels like front left to back right vice versa.

I have seen this in Ford booklet as well.

bdn317 · 8th October 2007, 18:53

Thanks a lot for your replies guys!! I am mostly going for new set of wheels for my ikon soon as i am planning a long trip!! thanks for your valuable suggestions!!

filcord · 9th October 2007, 05:22

After 25 k kms you should not need to change the tyres, unless there is severe mis-alignment. I had this problem on my old Escort, alignment was never done properly due to some suspension component that needed replacement and the tyres chaps just did their alignment (every 5000 kms) to the best they could, but never told me it was out of whack so much. After 25 k tyres were badly worn out on one side, and eventually I replaced them at 30 k.
But never had a noise.
Please have this checked thoroughly before you put new tyres. Have them rotate the tyres, see if the noise goes away, then you know it's the tyres. Have them check that the alignment is spot on, no deviation should be tolerated. It may be a suspension component, in which case get it done before you put new tyres.

esteem_lover · 9th October 2007, 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdn317

People here tel me the tyre threads have almost vanished!! but i dont think so!! the threads are still prominent!!

i know that the tyres stil have a minimum life of 10k kms more!!

Your treads may have some life left, but the rubber is ageing. Like Iraghava said, check the tyres for bulges.

bdn317 · 12th October 2007, 18:56

Hi friends!!
In my 1st query in this post, i had complained about some noise and vibrations in my car!! i had asked everyone whether the tyres played a part in it!!

Now my problem still remains the same!! but the people at ford told me today, that my tyres stil have a minimum life of 5k-10k kms in it!! They also told that the wheel bearing of the RHS-rear wheel was the source of the problem!!

My vehicle has done around 28k kms till date!! what i would like to know from all of you:

1)wats your opinion regarding the comments made by the people at ford about this problem??? Do you feel the bearings are the source of this???

2)is it a proper time for wheel bearings to get worn off?? i mean its just clocked 28k!! isnt it too early?? wat might be reason for this???

3)They have also told me it will cost me around 3000-3500 rs. to rectify it!! is it a fair price??

3)they have informed me tat, i shud get this job done soon!! else if i delay it, i might have to change the drums as well!! how true is this???

pls do give ur opinion about this and suggest me how do i go ahead from here!!

Thank You!!

nitrous · 13th October 2007, 14:08

Some users re-grease the wheel bearings,but its recommended U change the faulty wheel bearing.
Check its price in the open market and use genuine spare only.

27th September 2007, 15:04	#1
bdn317 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mangalore Posts: 58 Thanked: 6 Times	Query regarding ford ikon!! Hi friends!! I own a ford Ikon (03') with the rocam engine1.3. Its run around 25k kms. Its still running with the bridgestone tyres(original fit). I recently have noticed a wierd sound (& a bit of vibration) when the vehicle is in motion. People here tel me the tyre threads have almost vanished!! but i dont think so!! the threads are still prominent!! I have owned an opel astra before this!! i Hav used the opel for 7 years!! (97-03') I had similar bridgestone tyres on it!! But i never have noticed the above discussed sound in it!! so am confused!! i know that the tyres stil have a minimum life of 10k kms more!! Pls give your comments regarding this matter!! how should i go about it!! I also wanted to know if second hand alloy wheels are available for my vehicle!! how much would they cost approx!! and is it available in my city?? (mangalore)
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27th September 2007, 15:18	#2
Mr.Bangalore BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bengalooru Posts: 368 Thanked: 55 Times View My Garage	hi Tyre does not depend on number of years, it all depends on how the car runs and the condition of road, in your case we cant tell exactly what could be the problem, if you can post some pics of tyres, we can help you out.. cheers
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27th September 2007, 15:25	#3
bdn317 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mangalore Posts: 58 Thanked: 6 Times	@ Mr.Bangalore thank you for your valuable suggestion sir!! Will soon try to put some some snaps of my tyres!!
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27th September 2007, 15:33	#4
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	This might be a case of bent steel belts in the radials after 4 years of use.
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3rd October 2007, 17:37	#5
kaynmantis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 191 Thanked: 9 Times	Vibrations are sometimes caused by poor wheel balance. But they cause vibrations only at higher speed, somewhere around 60kmph.
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3rd October 2007, 20:05	#6
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Vibrations can either be caused by wonky Wheel Alignment or by tyres which have got bulges in them. Basically in the first case all you have to do is get the balancing done again but if the tyres have bluges than you have to replace them.
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3rd October 2007, 21:26	#7
VC12 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 297 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	get ur ikon wheel check, alingment or balancing. at times the sound can be from shocks
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3rd October 2007, 21:56	#8
nura BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 599 Thanked: 17 Times	I remember reading somewhere that after 5-6 years tyres should be replaced even they are not worn out, as rubber deteriorates as it gets older. For the same reason, it is important to check the manufacture date at the time of purchase of new tyres.
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4th October 2007, 12:26	#10
VC12 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 297 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Yes the tyre may get old, but one more fact is that tyres must be roatetd to different wheels like front left to back right vice versa. I have seen this in Ford booklet as well.
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8th October 2007, 18:53	#11
bdn317 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mangalore Posts: 58 Thanked: 6 Times	Thanks a lot for your replies guys!! I am mostly going for new set of wheels for my ikon soon as i am planning a long trip!! thanks for your valuable suggestions!!
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9th October 2007, 05:22	#12
filcord BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: goa Posts: 996 Thanked: 67 Times	After 25 k kms you should not need to change the tyres, unless there is severe mis-alignment. I had this problem on my old Escort, alignment was never done properly due to some suspension component that needed replacement and the tyres chaps just did their alignment (every 5000 kms) to the best they could, but never told me it was out of whack so much. After 25 k tyres were badly worn out on one side, and eventually I replaced them at 30 k. But never had a noise. Please have this checked thoroughly before you put new tyres. Have them rotate the tyres, see if the noise goes away, then you know it's the tyres. Have them check that the alignment is spot on, no deviation should be tolerated. It may be a suspension component, in which case get it done before you put new tyres.
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12th October 2007, 18:56	#14
bdn317 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mangalore Posts: 58 Thanked: 6 Times	same problem!!! new approach!! Hi friends!! In my 1st query in this post, i had complained about some noise and vibrations in my car!! i had asked everyone whether the tyres played a part in it!! Now my problem still remains the same!! but the people at ford told me today, that my tyres stil have a minimum life of 5k-10k kms in it!! They also told that the wheel bearing of the RHS-rear wheel was the source of the problem!! My vehicle has done around 28k kms till date!! what i would like to know from all of you: 1)wats your opinion regarding the comments made by the people at ford about this problem??? Do you feel the bearings are the source of this??? 2)is it a proper time for wheel bearings to get worn off?? i mean its just clocked 28k!! isnt it too early?? wat might be reason for this??? 3)They have also told me it will cost me around 3000-3500 rs. to rectify it!! is it a fair price?? 3)they have informed me tat, i shud get this job done soon!! else if i delay it, i might have to change the drums as well!! how true is this??? pls do give ur opinion about this and suggest me how do i go ahead from here!! Thank You!!
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13th October 2007, 14:08	#15
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Some users re-grease the wheel bearings,but its recommended U change the faulty wheel bearing. Check its price in the open market and use genuine spare only.
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