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Old 4th May 2012, 11:44   #46
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Re: Understanding wheel alignment.

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In that case, what I meant is its not as easy as turning nuts and bolts, and Alignment guys will not do it. You will have to find the reason for the misalignment, and get it corrected from a workshop.
Thanks a lot for this piece of information dhanushs, this query was there in my mind quite for long and now I guess I have a rough answer to it. So if my understanding is correct, all wheel alignment equipments only check and ensure the camber, toe and caster parameters are within the specified range given by the manufacturer. If the toe readings are abnormal, the technician works on the tie rod and sets it to the right specification. If the caster/camber readings are out of place, that means the suspension setup has been disturbed/hit so badly and must be worked at the workshop level. Great!
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All, I have this alignment behavior on my Feb '12 Figo for which I need some feedback based on your experience. I notice that my car doesnt have a neutral steering behavior, it has a tendency to drift to the left. I understand that its normal cause road will always have a incline to the left, but somehow it seems more than just normal . My observation is that when I leave the steering wheel the car goes straight for 5-10 sec after which it drifts left. As per dealership its normal behavior and if alignment is off, it would instantly drift left and they checked it as well and found all ok. Same behavior on my Ikon is lot more neutral. The car continues straight for long duration before the left drift happens and I rarely need to make any corrections on the steering wheel. Thoughts?
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Alignment seems to be off. Why dont you get a proper alignment reading from a tyre shop or a specialised alignment centre?
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All, I have this alignment behavior on my Feb '12 Figo for which I need some feedback based on your experience. I notice that my car doesnt have a neutral steering behavior, it has a tendency to drift to the left.......before the left drift happens and I rarely need to make any corrections on the steering wheel. Thoughts?
Alignment and tyre pressure, 2 possible culprits which come immediately to my mind. Check the alignment from a good tyre shop. The A.S.S guys usually don't do a complete check on alignment.
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Alignment seems to be off. Why dont you get a proper alignment reading from a tyre shop or a specialised alignment centre?

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Alignment and tyre pressure, 2 possible culprits which come immediately to my mind. Check the alignment from a good tyre shop. The A.S.S guys usually don't do a complete check on alignment.
Tyre pressure is fine and checked multiple times.

I guess i need to get alignment checked by an outside workshop. I was thinking that A. S. S. was probably best place to goto since in the past outside have told me that Ford car alignment is slightly tricky business compared to other brands. Its bit annoying since its a 2 month old car.
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Who said Ford car alignment is tricky? :P
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I have a Swift . Done 35k kms. I am facing a strange problem for the past few months. My car's alignment goes out very frequently and the car pulls to the left. Every time i get the alignment done it stays fine for 40-50 days and then goes out again. I have tried different alignment centres and the issue remains. The car hasn't hit any bumps hard. Tyre pressure okay. What could be the culprit?
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I have a Swift . Done 35k kms. I am facing a strange problem for the past few months. My car's alignment goes out very frequently and the car pulls to the left. Every time i get the alignment done it stays fine for 40-50 days and then goes out again. I have tried different alignment centres and the issue remains. The car hasn't hit any bumps hard. Tyre pressure okay. What could be the culprit?
k2max, please check this link. Have seen a similar issue before also reported by another forum member. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post2667376
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...Camber: Camber is the tilting of the wheels from the vertical when viewed from the front of the vehicle. ..
Anyone has inputs on the camber of rear tyres in full-independent-rear suspensions ? Can this also be verified/fixed at the wheel alignment shops ?
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Anyone has inputs on the camber of rear tyres in full-independent-rear suspensions ? Can this also be verified/fixed at the wheel alignment shops ?
The camber can be verified but cannot be changed. Any 4 wheel tyre alignment shop can check it for you. If the camber is out, it means your rear suspension bushes need replacement.

If you want to adjust camber for performance purposes, you need to either grind a specfic bolt (depending on the car) or get a camber bolt to adjust camber.
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If it is a fully independent setup, then I think camber can be adjusted. It cant be changed easily in non independent setups.
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If it is a fully independent setup, then I think camber can be adjusted. It cant be changed easily in non independent setups.
Errrrr no. I have 2 cars with independent suspension & camber cannot be adjusted in the front or the rear. Most economy cars even with independent suspension are factory set with caster & camber. Only the toe can be changed. That is the reason for the aftermarket making castor & camber kits available.

Premium cars like Merc & BMW may have those settings adjustable.

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Re: Understanding wheel alignment.

There is a part named balance rod. It tied on two fix points at front.
What is the function of this balance rod? Can anyone explain with images?
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There is a part named balance rod. It tied on two fix points at front.
What is the function of this balance rod? Can anyone explain with images?
Hello Mr Alok. Balance rod is another name for anti roll bar. It is a rod made of spring quality steel.
When the vehicle corners the rod twists, or torsional stress is set up due to the vehicle tilting on one side, it resists this and tries to keep the vehicle level.
Please note it comes in play only during a turn when the vehicle tilts i.e the outer wheels on the curve gets loaded hence move upward side relative to the vehicle chassis and the inner wheels go opposite. In case of normal bumps individual wheels move up or down, so not much resistance is created.

Sorry dont have pics will try to get them.
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Re: Understanding wheel alignment.

Situation:
Tyres are new,
Wheels are balanced
Alignment readings are good. (Checked in two places)
Swapped front tyres.

Yet, the vehicle continues to pull left. Problem was not there earlier, but is seen now.

What could be the cause ?
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