Pedders VRD vs. Koni Adjustable Yellows for Baleno

nitrous · 15th October 2007, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy diablo

These are adjustables right? How do you adjust it once fitted?

Like a tap, clockwise for stiffer and anti-clockwise for softer.

im_srini · 16th October 2007, 17:26

Hi guys, having sport struts from Pedders fitted to my car on Thursday (18th) !

The only thing is that Pedders apparently do not provide appropriate springs for my car, a Alto Vxi. So the plan is for Electra to fit the struts on Thursday, & then to source compatible springs in the coming weeks...

sanchits · 18th October 2007, 01:39

guys...get blistein or koni...they are the best in this business. dont even think of getting any other brands.

crazydiablo · 18th October 2007, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

Like a tap, clockwise for stiffer and anti-clockwise for softer.

These are externally adjustable shocks, but my question was how would you access the rear shocks.

Just came to know that you need to remove the rears and then adjust it. I guess that answers the question....need to be doubly sure of the settings.

rjstyles69 · 18th October 2007, 23:41

Where is eapen now ? Can some-one post the costs involved please.

islandman · 24th October 2007, 09:10

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Originally Posted by rjstyles69

Where is eapen now ? Can some-one post the costs involved please.

Right , Eapen where art thou? There are many baleno owners in this forum waitin to see your install....

eapen · 31st October 2007, 08:38

I am in New York, USA - so the install would take sometime.

im_srini · 31st October 2007, 18:01

Hi guys, I'd upgraded from my 7 year old stock struts to Pedders stock replacement struts last weekend. I'd asked for the Sports Ryder, or the VRD struts, but apparently they're not available for my car (an Alto VXi). I'm told the Pedders are 40% stiffer than stock, & I can feel it. Road-holding seems to have improved noticeably, & the struts seem to have solved other issues I had with the car too, like front-end vibrations while moving off ! In terms of handling, I "think" there's an improvement, but will know for sure only after a "pay & practice" session at the MMST track.

Now for the sad part, the stock springs remain ! Pedders do not make springs for the Alto :( I'm trying to source stiffer springs, but it could take a couple of months - at the least. The question that rankles within me is, would these stock replacement Pedders be sufficient for track use ? Should I go for Koni instead ? In case of Koni, I believe, the stock struts are gutted, & the internals replaced by Koni (Yellow ?) strut internals.

I would also like comments on running stiffer sway bars. I remember reading that the WagonR & the Alto share the same platform, & that the WagonR runs stiffer springs & sway bars to account for it's "tall-boy" design. Is this true ? If so, what are the things I should watch out for if I replace the Alto's springs & sway bars with the ones from the WagonR ?

nitrous · 31st October 2007, 20:16

SAP found a quite a difference in his handling after replacing only his springs in his corsa sail.

im_srini · 1st November 2007, 19:26

Hi Nitrous, it was SAP's comments which inspired me to go with a stiffer setup from Pedders. However, in my case, I was forced to upgrade just the struts, the springs are stock ! The stiffer springs from Pedders are, apparently, incompatible with my car.

I did see on the Pedders website that they carry stiffer springs for the WagonR though. Since my car shares the same platform, emailed them if it would suit my need - haven't got a reply yet. Another option, of course, is to switch to stiffer sway bars, which is why I'm looking at the ones in the WagonR.

shazikon · 2nd November 2007, 20:53

Found this nice link.. thought of sharing with you guys! Its so DIY...we tools are available
Installing Koni Strut Inserts

rjstyles69 · 29th January 2008, 22:29

**bump**

Eapen was the setup completed ?

Mpower · 29th January 2008, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by im_srini

I would also like comments on running stiffer sway bars. I remember reading that the WagonR & the Alto share the same platform, & that the WagonR runs stiffer springs & sway bars to account for it's "tall-boy" design. Is this true ? If so, what are the things I should watch out for if I replace the Alto's springs & sway bars with the ones from the WagonR ?

Measure the OD of both the bars...that will tell you how much stiffer the WagonR bar is.

v1p3r · 16th June 2008, 04:00

Just put some DMS coilovers on the Baleno, and the difference is mindboggling. Of course, the stiffness is now on par with a train, but it's still something else in a corner.

shuvc · 16th June 2008, 10:50

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Just put some DMS coilovers on the Baleno, and the difference is mindboggling. Of course, the stiffness is now on par with a train, but it's still something else in a corner.

These are a direct fit on the Baleno? Plug and play?
Cost?

16th October 2007, 17:26	#17
im_srini BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Portland Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 490 Times View My Garage	Hi guys, having sport struts from Pedders fitted to my car on Thursday (18th) ! The only thing is that Pedders apparently do not provide appropriate springs for my car, a Alto Vxi. So the plan is for Electra to fit the struts on Thursday, & then to source compatible springs in the coming weeks...
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18th October 2007, 01:39	#18
sanchits BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: gurgaon/delhi Posts: 331 Thanked: Once	guys...get blistein or koni...they are the best in this business. dont even think of getting any other brands.
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18th October 2007, 23:41	#20
rjstyles69 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bengalooru.. Posts: 4,343 Thanked: 842 Times View My Garage	Where is eapen now ? Can some-one post the costs involved please.
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31st October 2007, 08:38	#22
eapen BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 92 Thanked: 38 Times	I am in New York, USA - so the install would take sometime.
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31st October 2007, 18:01	#23
im_srini BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Portland Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 490 Times View My Garage	Hi guys, I'd upgraded from my 7 year old stock struts to Pedders stock replacement struts last weekend. I'd asked for the Sports Ryder, or the VRD struts, but apparently they're not available for my car (an Alto VXi). I'm told the Pedders are 40% stiffer than stock, & I can feel it. Road-holding seems to have improved noticeably, & the struts seem to have solved other issues I had with the car too, like front-end vibrations while moving off ! In terms of handling, I "think" there's an improvement, but will know for sure only after a "pay & practice" session at the MMST track. Now for the sad part, the stock springs remain ! Pedders do not make springs for the Alto :( I'm trying to source stiffer springs, but it could take a couple of months - at the least. The question that rankles within me is, would these stock replacement Pedders be sufficient for track use ? Should I go for Koni instead ? In case of Koni, I believe, the stock struts are gutted, & the internals replaced by Koni (Yellow ?) strut internals. I would also like comments on running stiffer sway bars. I remember reading that the WagonR & the Alto share the same platform, & that the WagonR runs stiffer springs & sway bars to account for it's "tall-boy" design. Is this true ? If so, what are the things I should watch out for if I replace the Alto's springs & sway bars with the ones from the WagonR ?
	() Thanks

31st October 2007, 20:16	#24
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	SAP found a quite a difference in his handling after replacing only his springs in his corsa sail.
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1st November 2007, 19:26	#25
im_srini BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Portland Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 490 Times View My Garage	Hi Nitrous, it was SAP's comments which inspired me to go with a stiffer setup from Pedders. However, in my case, I was forced to upgrade just the struts, the springs are stock ! The stiffer springs from Pedders are, apparently, incompatible with my car. I did see on the Pedders website that they carry stiffer springs for the WagonR though. Since my car shares the same platform, emailed them if it would suit my need - haven't got a reply yet. Another option, of course, is to switch to stiffer sway bars, which is why I'm looking at the ones in the WagonR.
	() Thanks

2nd November 2007, 20:53	#26
shazikon BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 391 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	How to install koni strut inserts Found this nice link.. thought of sharing with you guys! Its so DIY...we tools are available Installing Koni Strut Inserts
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29th January 2008, 22:29	#27
rjstyles69 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bengalooru.. Posts: 4,343 Thanked: 842 Times View My Garage	bump Eapen was the setup completed ?
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16th June 2008, 04:00	#29
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Just put some DMS coilovers on the Baleno, and the difference is mindboggling. Of course, the stiffness is now on par with a train, but it's still something else in a corner.
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