Do you have ABS

ElantraGT · 14th June 2010, 15:11

Year & Make of Car : 2004 Hyundai Elantra GT
Tyres : Stock - Bridgetone 195/65/R15
Discs : All four
Was ABS std/optional : Standard
If Optional for How Much More :
EBD : Yes with Brake Assist & Traction Contrl System

viky_s · 14th June 2010, 15:28

Year & Make of Car : 2008 Skoda Octavia L&K
Tyres :205/60/R15 Stock
Discs : Front
Was ABS std/optional : Standard
If Optional for How Much More :
EBD :Yes

vc.vinay · 14th June 2010, 16:57

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Year & Make of Car :2008 toyota corrolla
Tyres : stock
Discs : all
Was ABS std/optional :STD
If Optional for How Much More :NA
EBD :yes

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Year & Make of Car :2008 swift VDI ABS
Tyres : stock
Discs : front
Was ABS std/optional :optional
If Optional for How Much More :20 grands
EBD :dont know

In my corolla i have seen ABS working on a negative side, on high speeds and sudden braking the brake pedal vibrates.i raised this issue with toyota as the car is still under warranty.the engineer from toyota visited my place and after driving the car he told me that it is because of EBD.please guide me if anyone is facing same problem with ABS + EBD.

DWind · 14th June 2010, 17:22

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Originally Posted by vc.vinay

In my corolla i have seen ABS working on a negative side, on high speeds and sudden braking the brake pedal vibrates.i raised this issue with toyota as the car is still under warranty.the engineer from toyota visited my place and after driving the car he told me that it is because of EBD.please guide me if anyone is facing same problem with ABS + EBD.

This is normal. Infact, the juddering is to show that ABS is working in your car. This usually happens just before the sensor detects that your wheels are going to lockup and modulates the brake force applied so that you do not lose traction. You can confirm this by trying this in an secluded area by asking another person posted outside to visually look for wheel lock up.

gavinimurthy · 14th June 2010, 18:35

Hi Vinay

DWind is right. There is nothing to worry. In fact you should worry if you don't feel the vibration in the circumstances you described and the ABS light comes up. That means a malfunctioning of the ABS system and should be attended to ASAP.

Murthy

Moonraker · 24th June 2010, 04:07

@Vinay: The juttering is because ABS is working properly and you need not worry about it. When the juttery thing is happening ensure that you are not lifting your feet off the brake pedal or not reducing the pressure you are applying, ABS would do the pump stop for you so that you can concentrate on turning the car from the obstacle.

24th June 2010, 06:08

I voted for 'Yes' as my Fiat Linea is equipped with ABS.

Year & Make of Car : 2009 October - Fiat Linea 1.4 FIRE Emotion Pack
Tyres : 195/60 R15
Discs : Both Front
Was ABS std/optional : Standard
EBD : YES

ghodlur · 24th June 2010, 08:17

My Fiesta has the ABS on all variants except the entry level varaint and Limited Editions.

Year & Make of Car : 2009 November - Ford Fiesta 1.6 ZXi (petrol)
Tyres : 175/65 R14 Tubeless
Discs : Only Front
Was ABS std/optional : Standard
EBD : YES

Go Fida.

StarrySky · 25th June 2010, 16:30

Slightly OT:

One of my friends told me that ABS isn't really effective without rear disc brakes as well - and that's it's not really useful having ABS + front disc brakes only. Is this true?

vikrantj · 25th June 2010, 16:47

Year & Make of Car : 2010 Fiat Linea
Tyres : 195/60/R15
Discs : front
Was ABS std/optional : std
If Optional for How Much More :
EBD : yes

gavinimurthy · 25th June 2010, 16:55

the truth is that today's disc/drum setups are completely adequate for the majority of new cars. Remember that both disc and drum brake design has been vastly improved in the last 20 years. In fact, the current rear drum brake systems on today's cars would provide better stopping performance then the front disc setups of the '70s. And today's front disc brakes are truly exceptional in terms of stopping power. Combined with the fact that between 60 and 90 percent of a vehicle's stopping power comes from the front wheels, it's clear that a well-designed, modern drum brake is all that's required for most rear wheel brake duty.

Brakes: Drum vs. Disc

ABS is nothing but automatic pumping. Pumping much more efficiently than a human can do. My SX4 has front disc (ventilated) and rare drum brakes. The surer stopping even at high speeds is to be seen to be believed.

I am afraid your friend is wrong. :-)

Murthy

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14th June 2010, 15:11	#76
ElantraGT BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 441 Thanked: 12 Times	Year & Make of Car : 2004 Hyundai Elantra GT Tyres : Stock - Bridgetone 195/65/R15 Discs : All four Was ABS std/optional : Standard If Optional for How Much More : EBD : Yes with Brake Assist & Traction Contrl System
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14th June 2010, 15:28	#77
viky_s BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nashik Posts: 129 Thanked: 51 Times	Year & Make of Car : 2008 Skoda Octavia L&K Tyres :205/60/R15 Stock Discs : Front Was ABS std/optional : Standard If Optional for How Much More : EBD :Yes
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14th June 2010, 16:57	#78
vc.vinay BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Delhi Posts: 33 Thanked: 30 Times	or Copy Pasting Year & Make of Car :2008 toyota corrolla Tyres : stock Discs : all Was ABS std/optional :STD If Optional for How Much More :NA EBD :yes or Copy Pasting Year & Make of Car :2008 swift VDI ABS Tyres : stock Discs : front Was ABS std/optional :optional If Optional for How Much More :20 grands EBD :dont know In my corolla i have seen ABS working on a negative side, on high speeds and sudden braking the brake pedal vibrates.i raised this issue with toyota as the car is still under warranty.the engineer from toyota visited my place and after driving the car he told me that it is because of EBD.please guide me if anyone is facing same problem with ABS + EBD.
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14th June 2010, 18:35	#80
gavinimurthy BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: AP-!6 Posts: 162 Thanked: 10 Times	Hi Vinay DWind is right. There is nothing to worry. In fact you should worry if you don't feel the vibration in the circumstances you described and the ABS light comes up. That means a malfunctioning of the ABS system and should be attended to ASAP. Murthy
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24th June 2010, 04:07	#81
Moonraker BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 171 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	@Vinay: The juttering is because ABS is working properly and you need not worry about it. When the juttery thing is happening ensure that you are not lifting your feet off the brake pedal or not reducing the pressure you are applying, ABS would do the pump stop for you so that you can concentrate on turning the car from the obstacle.
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24th June 2010, 06:08	#82
J.Ravi Posts: n/a	I voted for 'Yes' as my Fiat Linea is equipped with ABS. Year & Make of Car : 2009 October - Fiat Linea 1.4 FIRE Emotion Pack Tyres : 195/60 R15 Discs : Both Front Was ABS std/optional : Standard EBD : YES
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24th June 2010, 08:17	#83
ghodlur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Thane Posts: 6,010 Thanked: 4,199 Times View My Garage	My Fiesta has the ABS on all variants except the entry level varaint and Limited Editions. Year & Make of Car : 2009 November - Ford Fiesta 1.6 ZXi (petrol) Tyres : 175/65 R14 Tubeless Discs : Only Front Was ABS std/optional : Standard EBD : YES Go Fida.
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25th June 2010, 16:30	#84
StarrySky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: EU - Nordic Posts: 2,052 Thanked: 3,043 Times	Slightly OT: One of my friends told me that ABS isn't really effective without rear disc brakes as well - and that's it's not really useful having ABS + front disc brakes only. Is this true?
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25th June 2010, 16:47	#85
vikrantj BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 628 Thanked: 568 Times	Year & Make of Car : 2010 Fiat Linea Tyres : 195/60/R15 Discs : front Was ABS std/optional : std If Optional for How Much More : EBD : yes
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25th June 2010, 16:55	#86
gavinimurthy BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: AP-!6 Posts: 162 Thanked: 10 Times	the truth is that today's disc/drum setups are completely adequate for the majority of new cars. Remember that both disc and drum brake design has been vastly improved in the last 20 years. In fact, the current rear drum brake systems on today's cars would provide better stopping performance then the front disc setups of the '70s. And today's front disc brakes are truly exceptional in terms of stopping power. Combined with the fact that between 60 and 90 percent of a vehicle's stopping power comes from the front wheels, it's clear that a well-designed, modern drum brake is all that's required for most rear wheel brake duty. Brakes: Drum vs. Disc ABS is nothing but automatic pumping. Pumping much more efficiently than a human can do. My SX4 has front disc (ventilated) and rare drum brakes. The surer stopping even at high speeds is to be seen to be believed. I am afraid your friend is wrong. :-) Murthy
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