Future of Swift diesel

deva kuduvalli · 15th November 2007, 12:33

Few days back I was going through this forum and found a thread on Ascent CRDI engine breaking down after 80 K Km. Being new Swift VDI New owner, I am really worried about this vehicle after 80 K Km this is because both CRDI and DDiS is the same technology.

If any one has clue about this in European market (where punto is there for long time) please share.

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tsk1979 · 15th November 2007, 13:49

The car's engine had to be opened due to damage which occured due to overheating. This has nothing to do with crdi or petrol. If your engine overheats, your engine will be toast.

sumitkalindi · 15th November 2007, 14:04

No modern engine irrespective of being petrol or diesel, would leave you high and dry, if you take proper care of your baby. Just follow the manufacturers recommended servicing schedule, add a lill bit of TLC, and your car will last you life time.

Happy swifting with your baby. :-)

snaronikar · 15th November 2007, 14:13

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Originally Posted by deva kuduvalli

Few days back I was going through this forum and found a thread on Ascent CRDI engine breaking down after 80 K Km. Being new Swift VDI New owner, I am really worried about this vehicle after 80 K Km this is because both CRDI and DDiS is the same technology.

Oh boy! why are you worried now? What is your odo reading as of now? Do you intend to keep this car soooo long? If yes, then your worry is worth it. It's simple man...Murphy's law (see below signature)

deva kuduvalli · 16th November 2007, 11:01

[COLOR=black]It’s just a month old and 1500 KM on odo. I agree with you, to some extent, that is the reason I took extended warranty for 3rd and 4th year / 80 K KM which ever is earlier for Rs.4995/-. I think its worth going for it because the vehicle is new in the market and yet to be proven for long term durability.[/COLOR]
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deva kuduvalli · 16th November 2007, 12:04

It’s just a month old and 1500 KM on odo. I agree with you, to some
extent, that is the reason I took extended warranty for 3rd and 4th year / 80 K KM which ever is earlier for Rs.4995/-.

I think its worth going for it because the vehicle is new in the market and yet to be proven for long term durability.

Jaggu · 16th November 2007, 20:12

the engine is running in europe for a while so dont worry, it aint dooms day yet. any mechanical part can fail, if proper care and mainatanence is not given. so stick to regular service and your car will run for years

again Crdi engines are sensitive to fuel quality, so be choosy with the brew you use.

i have seen different manufacturer's engine fail under 20-30 k kms due to abuse, so it has got lot do with usage.

directinjection · 19th November 2007, 13:09

JTD 1.3 has a claimed lifespan of 2,50,000 KMs, before requiring the first overhaul. Even if one assumes that Indian operating conditions are harsher, one can expect a lifespan of 200K KMs.

Check this and live without worries man!

italiaspeed.com: Fiat Grande Punto

deva kuduvalli · 19th November 2007, 15:17

Thanks a lot , gr8 link. Infact I trusted Fiat more than Maruthi while buying this beauty

DieselFan · 19th November 2007, 16:21

One point to note is the oil change requirements are 30K KMs in the JTD 1.3 engines of Swift DDIS

. even if we reduce the same to consider Indian harsh conditions we can change the oil at 20K kms. Maruti is taking a more safer risk free approach in recommending oil change even 10K kms. people in this forum have changed it at 5K km intervals (Which is definitely an overkill).

kuttapan · 19th November 2007, 22:18

I would still change oil at 5k, keeping in mind the paltry cost of oil.

directinjection · 20th November 2007, 11:05

An experienced Maruti authorised SS technician well known to me once told me that after the introduction of MPFI in cars like Esteem and Zen, cars were requiring engine overhauling at shorter intervals than before. He attributed this to the fact that with the introduction of MPFI engines, Maruti had increased the recommended service interval from 5000 KMs to 10,000 KMs.

deva kuduvalli · 20th November 2007, 12:20

Swift being a cross breed, which one to consider , fiat or maruthi ? Change oil at every 10 K Km or 30 K KM ?

15th November 2007, 12:33	#1
deva kuduvalli Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	Future of Swift diesel Few days back I was going through this forum and found a thread on Ascent CRDI engine breaking down after 80 K Km. Being new Swift VDI New owner, I am really worried about this vehicle after 80 K Km this is because both CRDI and DDiS is the same technology. If any one has clue about this in European market (where punto is there for long time) please share. Note from mod : Do not use FONT and SIZE tags Last edited by tsk1979 : 15th November 2007 at 13:48.
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15th November 2007, 13:49	#2
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	The car's engine had to be opened due to damage which occured due to overheating. This has nothing to do with crdi or petrol. If your engine overheats, your engine will be toast.
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15th November 2007, 14:04	#3
sumitkalindi BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 376 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	No modern engine irrespective of being petrol or diesel, would leave you high and dry, if you take proper care of your baby. Just follow the manufacturers recommended servicing schedule, add a lill bit of TLC, and your car will last you life time. Happy swifting with your baby. :-)
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16th November 2007, 11:01	#5
deva kuduvalli Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	[COLOR=black]It’s just a month old and 1500 KM on odo. I agree with you, to some extent, that is the reason I took extended warranty for 3rd and 4th year / 80 K KM which ever is earlier for Rs.4995/-. I think its worth going for it because the vehicle is new in the market and yet to be proven for long term durability.[/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]
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16th November 2007, 12:04	#6
deva kuduvalli Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	It’s just a month old and 1500 KM on odo. I agree with you, to some extent, that is the reason I took extended warranty for 3rd and 4th year / 80 K KM which ever is earlier for Rs.4995/-. I think its worth going for it because the vehicle is new in the market and yet to be proven for long term durability.
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16th November 2007, 20:12	#7
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	the engine is running in europe for a while so dont worry, it aint dooms day yet. any mechanical part can fail, if proper care and mainatanence is not given. so stick to regular service and your car will run for years again Crdi engines are sensitive to fuel quality, so be choosy with the brew you use. i have seen different manufacturer's engine fail under 20-30 k kms due to abuse, so it has got lot do with usage.
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19th November 2007, 13:09	#8
directinjection Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Faridabad/Delhi Posts: 1,705 Thanked: 784 Times	JTD 1.3 has a claimed lifespan of 2,50,000 KMs, before requiring the first overhaul. Even if one assumes that Indian operating conditions are harsher, one can expect a lifespan of 200K KMs. Check this and live without worries man! italiaspeed.com: Fiat Grande Punto
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19th November 2007, 15:17	#9
deva kuduvalli Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks a lot , gr8 link. Infact I trusted Fiat more than Maruthi while buying this beauty
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19th November 2007, 16:21	#10
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	One point to note is the oil change requirements are 30K KMs in the JTD 1.3 engines of Swift DDIS. even if we reduce the same to consider Indian harsh conditions we can change the oil at 20K kms. Maruti is taking a more safer risk free approach in recommending oil change even 10K kms. people in this forum have changed it at 5K km intervals (Which is definitely an overkill).
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19th November 2007, 22:18	#11
kuttapan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 22 Times View My Garage	I would still change oil at 5k, keeping in mind the paltry cost of oil.
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20th November 2007, 11:05	#12
directinjection Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Faridabad/Delhi Posts: 1,705 Thanked: 784 Times	An experienced Maruti authorised SS technician well known to me once told me that after the introduction of MPFI in cars like Esteem and Zen, cars were requiring engine overhauling at shorter intervals than before. He attributed this to the fact that with the introduction of MPFI engines, Maruti had increased the recommended service interval from 5000 KMs to 10,000 KMs. Last edited by directinjection : 20th November 2007 at 11:06.
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20th November 2007, 12:20	#13
deva kuduvalli Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	Swift being a cross breed, which one to consider , fiat or maruthi ? Change oil at every 10 K Km or 30 K KM ?
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