Deposits from brake pads?

di1in · 5th July 2009, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by pranavt

Try EBC Ultimax, a pair costs around 7-8k in Mumbai.

8k ?! Online i found ebc redstuff for half that amount. And they're ceramic too. Would shipping them in be a better alternative ?

pranavt · 5th July 2009, 11:43

Shipping costs and duties will bring it up to around that amount minus the money that the distributor charges. You'll probably get it for a few hundred to a grand cheaper but with the hassle of getting it cleared through customs, etc.

cancerm · 6th July 2009, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by di1in

8k ?! Online i found ebc redstuff for half that amount. And they're ceramic too. Would shipping them in be a better alternative ?

Hi
If you need EBC brake pads let me know I have 1 in spare.Its brand new
cost Rs 3.5 k.
Let me know if you interested.

Rgds

GTO · 6th July 2009, 10:54

Di1in, just a thought : Maybe the brake dust is all the more prominent due to your white alloy wheels? I mean, brake dust would not show up as much on regular silver / dark grey wheels.

nitrous · 6th July 2009, 11:50

EBC green stuff dusts like crazy. I think even the stock replacement 'ultimax' would.

crazydiablo · 6th July 2009, 12:42

I have Kevlar carbon brake pads. These do leave a whole lot of brake dust than normal. I consider this as part of their function and shows that they are wearing out instead of eating my rotors.

The only thing to do its to clean the wheels regularly. Need to find a good alloy wheel cleaner.

kutlee · 6th July 2009, 13:40

normal car wash solution is sufficient to clean the wheels. but a good alloy wheel brush should be of great help. I'm trying to source one...

di1in · 6th July 2009, 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by cancerm

Hi
If you need EBC brake pads let me know I have 1 in spare.Its brand new
cost Rs 3.5 k.
Let me know if you interested.

Rgds

I've PMed you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Di1in, just a thought : Maybe the brake dust is all the more prominent due to your white alloy wheels? I mean, brake dust would not show up as much on regular silver / dark grey wheels.

True, but there isn't any dust on my friends NHC. It runs on stock pads and has white alloys similar to mine. Moreover some dudes warned me that leaving the brake dust for over a week could damage the lacquer finish of the wheels and even move into the wheel corroding it. Wouldn't want that to happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kutlee

normal car wash solution is sufficient to clean the wheels. but a good alloy wheel brush should be of great help. I'm trying to source one...

Cleaning the dust ain't a problem, i use a normal towel to wipe it off. It's pretty darn easy.

itwasntme · 9th July 2009, 10:12

Interesting article from the New York Times website:

Brake Dust: A Problem That’s Not Really a Problem - Wheels Blog - NYTimes.com

ntneo · 30th October 2009, 11:54

I knew the problem would be discussed on team bhp before

Good that i searched before opening a new topic.

I am facing the same problem with my i20 Magna. Note that there are no alloy wheels. Had observed the same in other i20's as well and Punto.
Not seen on the problem on Swift.

When checked with the Hyundai service centre, they told that it was due to softer brake pads. The feedback have been given to Hyundai it seems and they are working on it. The guy told that since the car is also meant for Europe, it tendencly to use softer brake pads. However it will not affect any braking performance.

DRC · 30th October 2009, 12:07

Thanks for bringing up ntneo.
I too have this problem on my Petra. may be experts can help.
Brakes on my petra are very soft and spongy. I have got the brakes system bled and pads replaced. Yet they are spongy. I also notice the brake dust on wheels. I use TVS girling pards.
However, my swift has very sharp brakes and no brake dust visible.

One more observation, after the car wash and left overnight, I see the rust on my Petra's brake rotors, however swift remains clean. I was told by the garage that rust on rotor is normal since it is made of cast iron.

di1in · 10th October 2010, 15:35

Apart from the black dust, the front wheels have also started whistling.

The major part of the whistling comes from the front left wheel and it occurs when i steer right and accelerate.

It does not occur if the steering is fully turned, neither does it occur if im not accelerating. Occasionally the sound comes from the right wheel when i turn left but that is rare.

I've tried to rectify this problem at 3 different garages including which i've given it to FordJohns Central Motors 3 times. No one has been able to find out the problem though it does seem to go away temporarily when they remove the wheel and put it back.

The wheels are R15/195/55. I've run with them for a year and a half without this problem. When we hydro-lifted the car and checked the brakes, they didnt seem to be the problem.

Anybody have an inkling as to what might have gotten into my car?

Thanks in advance.

di1in · 23rd December 2010, 21:36

Solved my problem.

Apart from one of the pads being misaligned, my side arms got bent. replaced them and everything as good as new.

5th July 2009, 11:43	#32
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	Shipping costs and duties will bring it up to around that amount minus the money that the distributor charges. You'll probably get it for a few hundred to a grand cheaper but with the hassle of getting it cleared through customs, etc.
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6th July 2009, 10:54	#34
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,529 Thanked: 300,724 Times View My Garage	Di1in, just a thought : Maybe the brake dust is all the more prominent due to your white alloy wheels? I mean, brake dust would not show up as much on regular silver / dark grey wheels.
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6th July 2009, 11:50	#35
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	EBC green stuff dusts like crazy. I think even the stock replacement 'ultimax' would.
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6th July 2009, 12:42	#36
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 854 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	I have Kevlar carbon brake pads. These do leave a whole lot of brake dust than normal. I consider this as part of their function and shows that they are wearing out instead of eating my rotors. The only thing to do its to clean the wheels regularly. Need to find a good alloy wheel cleaner.
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6th July 2009, 13:40	#37
kutlee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,141 Thanked: 232 Times View My Garage	normal car wash solution is sufficient to clean the wheels. but a good alloy wheel brush should be of great help. I'm trying to source one...
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9th July 2009, 10:12	#39
itwasntme Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 6,982 Thanked: 12,532 Times View My Garage	Interesting article from the New York Times website: Brake Dust: A Problem That’s Not Really a Problem - Wheels Blog - NYTimes.com
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30th October 2009, 11:54	#40
ntneo BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 40 Thanked: 33 Times	I knew the problem would be discussed on team bhp before Good that i searched before opening a new topic. I am facing the same problem with my i20 Magna. Note that there are no alloy wheels. Had observed the same in other i20's as well and Punto. Not seen on the problem on Swift. When checked with the Hyundai service centre, they told that it was due to softer brake pads. The feedback have been given to Hyundai it seems and they are working on it. The guy told that since the car is also meant for Europe, it tendencly to use softer brake pads. However it will not affect any braking performance.
	() Thanks

30th October 2009, 12:07	#41
DRC BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cockpit Posts: 911 Thanked: 64 Times View My Garage	Thanks for bringing up ntneo. I too have this problem on my Petra. may be experts can help. Brakes on my petra are very soft and spongy. I have got the brakes system bled and pads replaced. Yet they are spongy. I also notice the brake dust on wheels. I use TVS girling pards. However, my swift has very sharp brakes and no brake dust visible. One more observation, after the car wash and left overnight, I see the rust on my Petra's brake rotors, however swift remains clean. I was told by the garage that rust on rotor is normal since it is made of cast iron.
	() Thanks

10th October 2010, 15:35	#42
di1in BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Thrissur Posts: 511 Thanked: 285 Times View My Garage	Apart from the black dust, the front wheels have also started whistling. The major part of the whistling comes from the front left wheel and it occurs when i steer right and accelerate. It does not occur if the steering is fully turned, neither does it occur if im not accelerating. Occasionally the sound comes from the right wheel when i turn left but that is rare. I've tried to rectify this problem at 3 different garages including which i've given it to FordJohns Central Motors 3 times. No one has been able to find out the problem though it does seem to go away temporarily when they remove the wheel and put it back. The wheels are R15/195/55. I've run with them for a year and a half without this problem. When we hydro-lifted the car and checked the brakes, they didnt seem to be the problem. Anybody have an inkling as to what might have gotten into my car? Thanks in advance.
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23rd December 2010, 21:36	#43
di1in BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Thrissur Posts: 511 Thanked: 285 Times View My Garage	Re: Deposits from brake pads? Solved my problem. Apart from one of the pads being misaligned, my side arms got bent. replaced them and everything as good as new.
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