ford ikon jack too small!?

silver_shadow · 21st April 2008, 17:33

so i just recently bought a used ikon 1.6 2k2 model from my friend. in 1 week i've had 3 of the 4 tyre positions punctured :(

the previous 2 times i happened to notice the puncture just in front of repair shops but this time i wasn't so lucky... was doing about 100 when suddenly i hear this sound like metal getting scraped and stopped immediately... front left wheel FLAT.

so anyway, i get out the step knee and jack. jack up the car completely and get the wheel out. then i tried putting in the step knee and would you believe the damn jack is fully up but i can't get the new wheel on because it's inflated unlike the flat one which was obviously easier to get off! luckily there was one of those little tempo trucks nearby and the driver loaned me his jack which did the trick.

i guess i'll have to buy a new jack :x

anyone experience this?

Technocrat · 21st April 2008, 17:36

Hmm maybe the owner switched it accidentally or someone else with another car's jack, still IMHO I think most of the cars jack should let you do this.

Dont get me wrong but are you sure you put the jack at the right place to lift the car?

snaronikar · 21st April 2008, 17:38

Nope. I do not have any experience till now. This is alarming. Have to check the same in my car now. But what I understand is, the car companies do not do like the one you have explained above. They will be more cautious on this.

Jaggu · 21st April 2008, 17:39

Where did you place the jack at? on the edges of running board or suspension parts? Was the car on level ground?

iKON jack is lil flimsy but damn easy to use.

I had problem with the wheel spanner which bent like a aluminum wire, when encountered with the dealer tightened wheel nut (air comp spanner thingie). I would recommend buying the regular + Shape universal wheel spanners.

sammyboy · 21st April 2008, 17:41

I have had to use the jack only once (touchwood) and my car has covered 30k kms.It takes some getting used to but I didnt find any issues with the height .

silver_shadow · 21st April 2008, 17:56

hmmm.... lets see. there's a chasis tube that runs along the length of the car just about 3-4 inches inside and i placed it so that the groove of the upper part of the jack held this chasis tube. would have been again another 5 inches behind the wheel.

actually come to think of it the other day the other front tire was a bit low but not fully flat. i gave it to the wheel shop and he put it in exactly the same place. he deflated the step knee and then put it on. then he inflated it and removed the jack so i'm guessing it's actually the jack that's a problem. not sure if it is the company provided one. who know's - maybe it isn't.

PS: the car was on level ground

gd1418 · 22nd April 2008, 11:51

Hi Silver,

I'm not here to deliver lectures or find faults with anybody. Spelling mistakes or typo errors urge me in correction mode..

step knee is correctly pronounced and spelled as "stepney"

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver_shadow

so i just recently bought a used ikon 1.6 2k2 model from my friend. in 1 week i've had 3 of the 4 tyre positions punctured :(

so anyway, i get out the "step knee" and jack. jack up the car completely and get the wheel out. then i tried putting in the "step knee" and would you believe the damn jack is fully up but i can't get the new wheel on because it's inflated unlike the flat one which was obviously easier to get off! luckily there was one of those little tempo trucks nearby and the driver loaned me his jack which did the trick.

i guess i'll have to buy a new jack :x

anyone experience this?

nitrous · 22nd April 2008, 12:35

Yes, The Ford Ikon's jack is piece of junk.
So, I got myself a 2TON capacity hydraulic jack with a plastic case. Cost me around 2300 bucks.
Easy and FUN to use.

silver_shadow · 22nd April 2008, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

Yes, The Ford Ikon's jack is piece of junk.
So, I got myself a 2TON capacity hydraulic jack with a plastic case. Cost me around 2300 bucks.
Easy and FUN to use.

nice! i guess i'll be jack shopping

silver_shadow · 22nd April 2008, 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by gd1418

Hi Silver,

I'm not here to deliver lectures or find faults with anybody. Spelling mistakes or typo errors urge me in correction mode..

step knee is correctly pronounced and spelled as "stepney"

so it is! thanks for pointing out

21st April 2008, 17:33	#1
silver_shadow BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 366 Thanked: 3 Times	ford ikon jack too small!? so i just recently bought a used ikon 1.6 2k2 model from my friend. in 1 week i've had 3 of the 4 tyre positions punctured :( the previous 2 times i happened to notice the puncture just in front of repair shops but this time i wasn't so lucky... was doing about 100 when suddenly i hear this sound like metal getting scraped and stopped immediately... front left wheel FLAT. so anyway, i get out the step knee and jack. jack up the car completely and get the wheel out. then i tried putting in the step knee and would you believe the damn jack is fully up but i can't get the new wheel on because it's inflated unlike the flat one which was obviously easier to get off! luckily there was one of those little tempo trucks nearby and the driver loaned me his jack which did the trick. i guess i'll have to buy a new jack :x anyone experience this?
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21st April 2008, 17:36	#2
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Hmm maybe the owner switched it accidentally or someone else with another car's jack, still IMHO I think most of the cars jack should let you do this. Dont get me wrong but are you sure you put the jack at the right place to lift the car?
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21st April 2008, 17:38	#3
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	Nope. I do not have any experience till now. This is alarming. Have to check the same in my car now. But what I understand is, the car companies do not do like the one you have explained above. They will be more cautious on this.
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21st April 2008, 17:39	#4
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,906 Times	Where did you place the jack at? on the edges of running board or suspension parts? Was the car on level ground? iKON jack is lil flimsy but damn easy to use. I had problem with the wheel spanner which bent like a aluminum wire, when encountered with the dealer tightened wheel nut (air comp spanner thingie). I would recommend buying the regular + Shape universal wheel spanners. Last edited by Jaggu : 21st April 2008 at 17:42.
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21st April 2008, 17:41	#5
sammyboy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ggn/Dehradun Posts: 1,842 Thanked: 521 Times View My Garage	I have had to use the jack only once (touchwood) and my car has covered 30k kms.It takes some getting used to but I didnt find any issues with the height .
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21st April 2008, 17:56	#6
silver_shadow BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 366 Thanked: 3 Times	hmmm.... lets see. there's a chasis tube that runs along the length of the car just about 3-4 inches inside and i placed it so that the groove of the upper part of the jack held this chasis tube. would have been again another 5 inches behind the wheel. actually come to think of it the other day the other front tire was a bit low but not fully flat. i gave it to the wheel shop and he put it in exactly the same place. he deflated the step knee and then put it on. then he inflated it and removed the jack so i'm guessing it's actually the jack that's a problem. not sure if it is the company provided one. who know's - maybe it isn't. PS: the car was on level ground
	() Thanks

22nd April 2008, 12:35	#8
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Yes, The Ford Ikon's jack is piece of junk. So, I got myself a 2TON capacity hydraulic jack with a plastic case. Cost me around 2300 bucks. Easy and FUN to use.
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