Re: Turining off the engine at red lights Quote:
Originally Posted by amit_purohit20 The fuel saved in this period should he high enough to justify the early replacement of batteries which have a limited number of engine start cycles.
Also the engine idle time before switch off should also be optimized to avoid damage to the turbocharger. I wonder how Mahindra designed Micro Hybrid for a turbo charger engine. I mean how much time it takes in idle, neutral gear before the engine switches off using the Micro Hybrid technology.
I personally follow a minimum 30 to 45 second rule before switching off the diesel engine even though my vehicle has been driving slow in heavy traffic. |
What M&M have done is jointly developed this with Bosch that was used in the Bolero first, later on the improved version was in Scorpio that gained attention. The Scorpio equipped with this feature get a better starter motor, better alternator and Battery for counteracting this frequent start and stop.
The Mahindra's start-stop system is linked to the crankshaft sensor sends information to the ECU which in-turn decided when to use the 'start-stop' system.
When the car is stationary and idling (No clutch pedal input with the gear in neutral), the engine waits for 5-10 seconds and then activates this feature and switches off the engine. The moment the drives depresses the clutch pedal and shifts the lever from N to 1st, the engine fires itself. Now the idling issue I feel is in question and I think there is a secondary method of cooling the Turbo in these start-stop equipped ones. AFAIK, water is circulated to keep the cooling happening when the engine is off or else oil itself is circulated. Shall check and see if I can get any information on this. Quote:
Originally Posted by rajneeesh One question that comes to my mind is : what is the minimum duration before which one should wait before turning off the engine at red lights ? This will be different for Normally Aspirated petrol engines and the turbo charged diesels that are becoming increasing popular on Indian roads. | Quote:
Originally Posted by arunphilip The other aspect around 'different rules for NA and TC' is to also separately make allowances for turbocharged petrols that are gradually gaining popularity - this is because the temperature of exhaust gases in a petrol engine are higher, which will lead to higher heat soak in a petrol engine that is at standstill. |
I'd say 50+seconds on the timer and it is good to switch off the engine at signals be it an NA or TC engine. Quote:
Originally Posted by wildsdi5530 Doesn't starting a car esp. naturally aspirated ones require a lot of fuel? Also I've noticed that if you switch off the A/C, when you restart it takes a while to cool again. Meaning more fuel again. Plus in Bangalore at least signals don't have a stop. It's always Go-Get ready-Creep. Never stop. |
Starting any engine uses up lot more fuel than the amount used in idling. It also puts unruly load on the starter motor and battery.
Once the engine is switched off with everything OFF, the time taken to get everything up again will need some fuel + time.
Bangalore traffic is special Quote:
Originally Posted by rajeev k Generally, turning off the engine is advisable, if the wait period is more than two minutes. |
2 minutes is a long time in traffic to keep the car idling. If the timer is 50+ seconds then it is good to switch off the engine. Anything above 50 seconds is a waste of fuel IMO.
Anurag. |