No Rev Limiter on the Getz CRDi????

anarchist · 13th October 2008, 12:24

I recently returned from a trip to Goa. My friend who owns a OHC Type 1 VTEC took the wheel after I finished my driving quota started off revving hard and I had my wary eye on the speedo and the RPM, and he was doing more than 5000 rpm on first second and third gears. The problem is the RPM shows a redline at ~ 4200/4500 rpm and he was going way over it touching 5500 rpm at times but there was no rev limiter in action. I am used to my Swift and I can feel the rev limiter coming into action close to ~6800 rpm and you can feel that the engine cannot take any further rev's, but there is a total absence of this on the Getz CRDi. I got my friend to control himself to less than 4000 rpm there on, but I checked again once I got back to Bangalore and I still found the car in the same position no REV LIMITER!!!!

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Any of you CRDi people out there faced the same situation or have you encountered the rev limiter coming on at the peak RPM??

I hope I dont end up damaging my engine...

Akshay1234 · 13th October 2008, 12:27

what speed was it doing in those gears at those rpms?

anarchist · 13th October 2008, 12:34

well I think the speeds were approx -> 1st 40+, 2nd 80+, 3rd 120+ probably more

kpzen · 13th October 2008, 12:34

Why do u want to cross the redline when u have all the power and torque @ <4000 RPM..??
Its a D I E S E L with VGT but still it ain't a VTEC.

anarchist · 13th October 2008, 13:21

KP I don't want to cross the redline, and I am aware that there is more than enough power n torque <4k rpm, I wanted to check if the rev limiter does exist or its missing on the Getz CRDi

ssjr0498 · 13th October 2008, 13:52

Hi,

get your car checked! IMO it should have a revv limiter.

Cheers,
Shrey

Vivek.Martin · 13th October 2008, 14:10

Whether there's a Rev Limiter or not, I don't know. Haven't driven my CRDi like that yet.
But always advisable to stay at 4000rpm to avoid any damage to the engine. I cannot imagine taking my car to 5500rpm in 3rd gear! Even though its a good engine, it has its limits.
I hope your engine has run-in already.

nitrous · 13th October 2008, 16:19

I've driven a Verna CRDI. And I remember the power tapers down 500rpm prior to the redline.
Understandably, your friend seems to have hard revved it since he's used to the OHC VTEC.

About your problem,don't mull over it since its not affecting anything as long as you have a mental rev-limiter. Although, just ask the service guys at the next service . Just don't go along fixing what ain't broken.

GTO · 13th October 2008, 19:13

Come to think of it, I haven't hit the limiter in my Jeep or the C220. The Jeep, well, understandable for such a basic oldschool engine. But the C revvs beyond 4500 rpm (easily)...a little more than you can feel the engine getting strained. I don't take it over, but the rare times that I have, it is the engine that has been stretched. No cutoff.

Agreed with kpzen : No point revving diesels too high, it's just a waste as you have left your torque behind.

I am curious to know if any others have hit revv-limiters in Indian diesels.

P.S. Hahaha, that sounds like a typical high-revving Vtec guy.

noidaboy · 13th October 2008, 22:27

IMO the diesel dont hit limiters like petrol cars.. ding ding ding style,They simply go and stop at a point.

greenhorn · 13th October 2008, 22:31

Beyond a point, I've actually felt like going backwards (especially on inclines) after i spun past the peak torque/power band, Besides, like kpzen said , there is nothing interesting beyond 4k anyway, and you would have noticed it, unless you were going flat out on level ground

13th October 2008, 12:24	#1
anarchist BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago / Namma Bengaluru Posts: 372 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	No Rev Limiter on the Getz CRDi???? I recently returned from a trip to Goa. My friend who owns a OHC Type 1 VTEC took the wheel after I finished my driving quota started off revving hard and I had my wary eye on the speedo and the RPM, and he was doing more than 5000 rpm on first second and third gears. The problem is the RPM shows a redline at ~ 4200/4500 rpm and he was going way over it touching 5500 rpm at times but there was no rev limiter in action. I am used to my Swift and I can feel the rev limiter coming into action close to ~6800 rpm and you can feel that the engine cannot take any further rev's, but there is a total absence of this on the Getz CRDi. I got my friend to control himself to less than 4000 rpm there on, but I checked again once I got back to Bangalore and I still found the car in the same position no REV LIMITER!!!!. Any of you CRDi people out there faced the same situation or have you encountered the rev limiter coming on at the peak RPM?? I hope I dont end up damaging my engine...
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13th October 2008, 12:27	#2
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	what speed was it doing in those gears at those rpms?
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13th October 2008, 12:34	#3
anarchist BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago / Namma Bengaluru Posts: 372 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	well I think the speeds were approx -> 1st 40+, 2nd 80+, 3rd 120+ probably more
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13th October 2008, 12:34	#4
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Why do u want to cross the redline when u have all the power and torque @ <4000 RPM..?? Its a D I E S E L with VGT but still it ain't a VTEC.
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13th October 2008, 13:21	#5
anarchist BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago / Namma Bengaluru Posts: 372 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	KP I don't want to cross the redline, and I am aware that there is more than enough power n torque <4k rpm, I wanted to check if the rev limiter does exist or its missing on the Getz CRDi
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13th October 2008, 13:52	#6
ssjr0498 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Blr-Ccu Posts: 860 Thanked: 516 Times View My Garage	Hi, get your car checked! IMO it should have a revv limiter. Cheers, Shrey
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13th October 2008, 14:10	#7
Vivek.Martin BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Garden (Garbage?) City Posts: 109 Thanked: 0 Times	Whether there's a Rev Limiter or not, I don't know. Haven't driven my CRDi like that yet. But always advisable to stay at 4000rpm to avoid any damage to the engine. I cannot imagine taking my car to 5500rpm in 3rd gear! Even though its a good engine, it has its limits. I hope your engine has run-in already.
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13th October 2008, 16:19	#8
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	I've driven a Verna CRDI. And I remember the power tapers down 500rpm prior to the redline. Understandably, your friend seems to have hard revved it since he's used to the OHC VTEC. About your problem,don't mull over it since its not affecting anything as long as you have a mental rev-limiter. Although, just ask the service guys at the next service . Just don't go along fixing what ain't broken.
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13th October 2008, 19:13	#9
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,512 Thanked: 300,697 Times View My Garage	Come to think of it, I haven't hit the limiter in my Jeep or the C220. The Jeep, well, understandable for such a basic oldschool engine. But the C revvs beyond 4500 rpm (easily)...a little more than you can feel the engine getting strained. I don't take it over, but the rare times that I have, it is the engine that has been stretched. No cutoff. Agreed with kpzen : No point revving diesels too high, it's just a waste as you have left your torque behind. I am curious to know if any others have hit revv-limiters in Indian diesels. P.S. Hahaha, that sounds like a typical high-revving Vtec guy.
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13th October 2008, 22:27	#10
noidaboy BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Noida Posts: 1,003 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	IMO the diesel dont hit limiters like petrol cars.. ding ding ding style,They simply go and stop at a point.
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13th October 2008, 22:31	#11
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,398 Times View My Garage	Beyond a point, I've actually felt like going backwards (especially on inclines) after i spun past the peak torque/power band, Besides, like kpzen said , there is nothing interesting beyond 4k anyway, and you would have noticed it, unless you were going flat out on level ground Last edited by greenhorn : 13th October 2008 at 22:33.
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