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Old 26th November 2019, 11:58   #9481
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Update on the PS pump issue:

The China sourced pump that I'd installed in 2016 finally gave way. I scoured the market and the original costs Rs 19k while Ghai gave me a quote of Rs 4200 for the China import.

Went for the latter as I don't intend to keep the car for very long. The power steering is back to being super smooth.

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My experience of the mount from Ghai's was also not good. So I decided to cut open both the mounts. Ghai's internal design was having much lesser chambers for oil compared to original one. I guess I had posted the comparison somewhere in this thread. But I was happy with the bush kit he gave for the suspension.
If it's the mount that you're talking about when we met in Delhi, the design has changed. The new one has lasted for more than 70k for me

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Old 26th November 2019, 18:32   #9482
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I guess I had posted the comparison somewhere in this thread.

That was why I advised sharathlal, if the car is a keeper to go the HASS way
Thanks! And here is the engine mount surgery thread of yours

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ml#post3654390 (Honda Civic : Maintenance, Service Costs and Must dos)
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Old 30th November 2019, 13:19   #9483
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I am planning to get a pre owned manual civic. What all should i get checked in the car,any common problems?I plan to get a complete scan from honda before buying the car.
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I am planning to get a pre owned manual civic. What all should i get checked in the car,any common problems?I plan to get a complete scan from honda before buying the car.
This has been discussed many times on this thread buddy but here goes.
1. Engine mount.
2. Power steering rack and pump leakage.
3. Cooling coil for the ac.

The above are the most common issues the Civic has. Rest are regular like any other vehicle eg bushes, joints etc. All the above at HASS are expensive to fix, independant garage is the way to go. Honda's mounts are better but cost 10k a pop.

Good luck. Try to get a single owner car if possible.
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This has been discussed many times on this thread buddy but here goes.
1. Engine mount.
2. Power steering rack and pump leakage.
3. Cooling coil for the ac.

The above are the most common issues the Civic has. Rest are regular like any other vehicle eg bushes, joints etc. All the above at HASS are expensive to fix, independant garage is the way to go. Honda's mounts are better but cost 10k a pop.

Good luck. Try to get a single owner car if possible.

+ Underbody for any damages as the car is very low slung and chances of scrapping the underbelly is likely.

AC Condenser coil issues also come up in this generation of Civic and has been highlighted by multiple owners in our forum. So, a peek at it is also essential.

Good luck with buying! IMO go for a car which is less driven and well maintained even though it would be 30-50K costlier than a less maintained one.

You will enjoy ever mile with a grin on your face. This 8th gen Civic is a gem.
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Driver side seat belt buckle is not going in smoothly in my Civic. It gets locked in after multiple attempts using a lot of force. Something is either broken or dislodged inside the buckle.
Took it to HASS. They told me that it would need to be replaced. I paid an advance and asked them to procure it since it was not available. They have placed the request but haven’t received the part even after a month. Since it has an electrical connection for seat belt indication, they can’t use a normal buckle. Haven’t tried other workshops and part vendors.
Any suggestions?
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Driver side seat belt buckle is not going in smoothly in my Civic. ----Haven’t tried other workshops and part vendors.
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Though I am not 100% sure but I think the belt buckle should be a common part across many cars since the seat belt design looks almost identical. Also, all new generation cars come with the provision for electronic indicator. You should try a spare part shop and get any OE/ good brand buckle. You can easily check if it engages/ matches your seatbelt design as it can be checked without fitting the part to your vehicle.

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Though I am not 100% sure but I think the belt buckle should be a common part across many cars since the seat belt design looks almost identical. Also, all new generation cars come with the provision for electronic indicator. You should try a spare part shop and get any OE/ good brand buckle. You can easily check if it engages/ matches your seatbelt design as it can be checked without fitting the part to your vehicle.

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Thanks @Saket77. They tried to fit the buckle from other Honda cars but none of them are of the same fit. I was quite surprised myself since I believed commanality of this part for cost saving etc. Will try spare parts shops.

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@Highflyer; Most spared for the Civic are imports. For example the wipers. So I am not that shocked.
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@Highflyer; Most spared for the Civic are imports. For example the wipers. So I am not that shocked.
Thanks @sgiitk. Searched on YouTube about seat belt buckle issues. Used WD-40, Silicone Lubricant and a screw driver to work the parts inside the buckle. It is working perfectly now. Wondering why it didn’t occur to me earlier. After all it has mechanical parts inside that might have got rusted or jammed.

People at HASS never tried to look at it from this angle. They were straight up for replacement.
Is it an issue of integrity, repair philosophy or couldn’t care less attitude?

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Thanks @sgiitk. Searched on YouTube about seat belt buckle issues. Used WD-40, Silicone Lubricant and a screw driver to work the parts inside the buckle. It is working perfectly now. Wondering why it didnít occur to me earlier. After all it has mechanical parts inside that might have got rusted or jammed.

People at HASS never tried to look at it from this angle. They were straight up for replacement.
Is it an issue of integrity, repair philosophy or couldnít care less attitude?
Honda advisor once said to me they have a "replace and not a repair" policy. They wanted to replace my Civic's power steering pump and rack once for a 1 lac rs, I said no thanks.
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For those of you who thought retrofitting the steering wheel controls was difficult or impossible, here is a sneak preview in my Civic

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For those of you who thought retrofitting the steering wheel controls was difficult or impossible, here is a sneak preview in my Civic

More later...
Please give more details and where to get the exact sizes.

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Please give more details and where to get the exact sizes.

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Did the followings:

1) Ordered part #36770-SNA-A12 from AliExpress - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3290...71254c4d69gj9G

2) De-assemble the steering wheel making sure Battery (-ve) terminal is disconnected so that airbag can be removed.

3) The part #36770-SNA-A12 comes with both Audio controls (left) and Cruise Controls (right) - all in one harness.

4) Just after the clock srping, there is a white harness. For my Civic, it only have one wiring - that of the horn at position 10. We need to add pins for the position 3 and 4, which are for audio controls.

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And you need to wire these two with that of the audio unit connector harness at position 6 and 7. Note that, as our civic already have audio controls at rear arm rest, these 6 and 7 are already connected. So, you will have to disconnect and re-use these positions to connect with the position 3 and 4 of the steering harness.

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The steering harness only contains one pin at position 10 for horn. So, you will need to source the pins from elsewhere or purchase another equivalent harness to extract the 2 pins.

Here is an excellent video that would help you



The steps are easy once you know the pins diagram of the harness. The steering controls hardly costs Rs 1500, though it needs a lot of patience and time to disassemble and complete the circuit. I was replacing my headunit to Blaupunkt New York 750 and this was a good opportunity to install the steering controls as well, with the help of professional audio expert. So, if you don't feel confident of doing it yourself, take help from an expert as that will help you avoid accidentally breaking things.

I wish I could have done this retrofit 10 years when I bought the car.
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Honda advisor once said to me they have a "replace and not a repair" policy. They wanted to replace my Civic's power steering pump and rack once for a 1 lac rs, I said no thanks.
This is the standard corporate policy with all vendors. Replace & not repair is the buzz word. This is why as my cars are getting old I am off the corporate ladder.
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