SWIFT - Power Steering failure

headers · 22nd March 2009, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldsun

I am planning to write about this issue to MUL seeking their help.

Maybe you should mark a copy for the forum for all to understand how MUL reacts!

goldsun · 22nd March 2009, 22:37

Sure. I will post the response from MUL as I may receive it.

thedreamcatcher · 23rd March 2009, 17:54

What is the most common cost of this happening? This happened to a friend of mine who crashed because his PS failed at high speed. Thakfully he was safe, but it cost him around 2 laks to do up his car (Ford Ikon).Covered by insurance though.

goldsun · 23rd March 2009, 18:43

At High speed, the impact of PS failure should be minimal as under high speeds, PS will not be in operation. In your friend's case, probably there could be some other compounding issue as well which could have lead to the crash. In any case, I was fortunate as the PS failure occured when I was starting off from a signal stop, and that I was in the front. I could keep driving without PS being operational, but it was much harder to steer.

goldsun · 18th April 2009, 09:15

Here is an update to the power steering problem that I had:

I wrote to Maruti about the failure and the intermittent failures even after the replacement of the Module. They collected much details through email and then said that they will forward the complaint to respective department.

In the mean time, the dealer called me up and has requested to leave my vehicle for investigation. They even provided me a spare SWIFT VXi. They took 3 days and am not sure what they did. But they did told me that the vehicle was tested on the road with the diagnostic meters connected on board and they did find some problems with the ECU data. They said, they have reset the ECU data and the vehicle should be fine now.

After this, I have not experienced the intermittent failure yet. At the same time, I have not also heard from Maruti, summarising what was the problem and what they did. I have reminded them to update me with these details and waiting for a response.

ghpk · 18th April 2009, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldsun

Here is an update to the power steering problem that I had:

I wrote to Maruti about the failure and the intermittent failures even after the replacement of the Module. They collected much details through email and then said that they will forward the complaint to respective department.

In the mean time, the dealer called me up and has requested to leave my vehicle for investigation. They even provided me a spare SWIFT VXi. They took 3 days and am not sure what they did. But they did told me that the vehicle was tested on the road with the diagnostic meters connected on board and they did find some problems with the ECU data. They said, they have reset the ECU data and the vehicle should be fine now.

After this, I have not experienced the intermittent failure yet. At the same time, I have not also heard from Maruti, summarising what was the problem and what they did. I have reminded them to update me with these details and waiting for a response.

The dealer/service station should have tested the New EPS and ECU data before making the delivery when you got it repaired.
Seems the old EPS and new EPS you got installed doesn't got tweaked on the first place.
Giants Like maruti should have attended your issue promptly, but seems all they did was to inform the dealer to take care of issue.

sujitm · 16th May 2011, 15:13

I am also facing a similar issue on Swift VXi, 2006 around 35k km.
I have seen the EPS light come on few months back, but then the next time i started the car, it was working fine. Since the last few days, EPS is consistenly not working, the light is always on. I showed it to CG Motors, Rabale - and they tested the wiring/fuse etc and confirmed that the module is faulty. They told me reparing can cost anywhere between 3-5k (they send to a third party in Goregaon for repairs) and new one will cost around 13k - which is clearly double of what you were quoted!
Thanks for this thread, i will try to take it to some other service center like SK Wheels

rajivanoj · 16th May 2011, 20:40

i thought EPS is more reliable than hydraulic power steering, I have repaired my lancers power steering for RS.7000 from Mitsu A.S.S, they replaced oil seals and worked no rack it seems, Though i tried with duplicate cheap oils seals of Rs.350, it did not last even a day, so got it right with original seal kit which costed Rs.3500 for oil seal kit alone which is from NOK Japan.

At that time i was sad, since my car did not have EPS, since i thought EPS is easily repairable, and less maintenance. But it seems it is complicated than hydraulic.

jeeva · 17th May 2011, 14:39

Have you ever had the engine bay pressure washed sometime?
A senior mech at a MASS was telling me about the rising number is EPS failures in Maruti cars when pressure washed (Swift and Alto tops the list according to him). Not sure if its because of the placement of the EPS module or it could be a design issue too.

OT: A friend's Palio was send off for service and a thorough wash at the ASC. The over-enthusiastic lad at the wash section, pointed the water jet directly into the ECM.

sujitm · 17th May 2011, 16:15

Yes Jeeva, as part of the service, they do pressure wash the engine bay - have seen it sometimes. Quick question - how would recommend they clean the engine bay if not pressure wash?
Nways regarding the EPS issue, it showed some signs of failure few months back, but then it automatically went away. But now - its totally failed - the power wash could have triggered the problem, not sure.

Jaggu · 17th May 2011, 18:02

I dont think the EPS module sits inside the engine bay, its inside the cabin under the dash integrated with the steering column.

humyum · 27th September 2013, 18:15

While taking a turn into my lane today, The EPS light comes on and the steering becomes rock hard. It starts working on its own again like nothing happened. 2 second later, the same thing happens and it starts working again in 2 seconds while the car is moving. What could this be ? I have taken an appointment with the service station tomorrow.

I had passed through some puddles yesterday and while getting back today from Jogeshwari today too there was some rainfall. What could this be ? I don't want to drive around with a car which shuts off its EPS like that anytime.

Rocky_Balboa · 27th September 2013, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by humyum

While taking a turn into my lane today, The EPS light comes on and the steering becomes rock hard. It starts working on its own again like nothing happened. 2 second later, the same thing happens and it starts working again in 2 seconds while the car is moving. What could this be ? I have taken an appointment with the service station tomorrow.

I had passed through some puddles yesterday and while getting back today from Jogeshwari today too there was some rainfall. What could this be ? I don't want to drive around with a car which shuts off its EPS like that anytime.

Yes Its downright scary to say the least.
Sounds like a battery and/ or battery terminal to me, since I had the same issue and was diagnosed to a faulty aka corroded terminal.

SirAlec · 27th September 2013, 20:41

Get it checked ASAP. Looks like some loose connection of the unit, motor.

hemanthbs · 22nd January 2015, 18:26

Hi Team Members,

My new model Swift VDI, with 70868 Kms had a EPS failure.

Last night , had switched off the engine at the traffic signal and when I started the car , the EPS light was glowing and the steering wheel had become very hard making it very tough to drive due to the EPS failure. However managed to cross the signal and pulled over. Tried to restart the car , the EPS failure still continued.

Post 10 mins, tried starting the car and it was back to normal, The EPS started working and the light had gone off also.

Today the same is working fine , would be taking the car to the service station to get the same checked.

Has any one faced this issue recently.

Ps Mods: pls move the post to a relevant thread as the earlier posint on this issue is closed.

22nd March 2009, 22:37	#17
goldsun BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 230 Thanked: 48 Times	Sure. I will post the response from MUL as I may receive it.
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23rd March 2009, 17:54	#18
thedreamcatcher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,204 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	What is the most common cost of this happening? This happened to a friend of mine who crashed because his PS failed at high speed. Thakfully he was safe, but it cost him around 2 laks to do up his car (Ford Ikon).Covered by insurance though.
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23rd March 2009, 18:43	#19
goldsun BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 230 Thanked: 48 Times	At High speed, the impact of PS failure should be minimal as under high speeds, PS will not be in operation. In your friend's case, probably there could be some other compounding issue as well which could have lead to the crash. In any case, I was fortunate as the PS failure occured when I was starting off from a signal stop, and that I was in the front. I could keep driving without PS being operational, but it was much harder to steer.
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18th April 2009, 09:15	#20
goldsun BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 230 Thanked: 48 Times	Here is an update to the power steering problem that I had: I wrote to Maruti about the failure and the intermittent failures even after the replacement of the Module. They collected much details through email and then said that they will forward the complaint to respective department. In the mean time, the dealer called me up and has requested to leave my vehicle for investigation. They even provided me a spare SWIFT VXi. They took 3 days and am not sure what they did. But they did told me that the vehicle was tested on the road with the diagnostic meters connected on board and they did find some problems with the ECU data. They said, they have reset the ECU data and the vehicle should be fine now. After this, I have not experienced the intermittent failure yet. At the same time, I have not also heard from Maruti, summarising what was the problem and what they did. I have reminded them to update me with these details and waiting for a response.
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16th May 2011, 15:13	#22
sujitm BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 70 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Re: SWIFT - Power Steering failure I am also facing a similar issue on Swift VXi, 2006 around 35k km. I have seen the EPS light come on few months back, but then the next time i started the car, it was working fine. Since the last few days, EPS is consistenly not working, the light is always on. I showed it to CG Motors, Rabale - and they tested the wiring/fuse etc and confirmed that the module is faulty. They told me reparing can cost anywhere between 3-5k (they send to a third party in Goregaon for repairs) and new one will cost around 13k - which is clearly double of what you were quoted! Thanks for this thread, i will try to take it to some other service center like SK Wheels
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16th May 2011, 20:40	#23
rajivanoj BANNED Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 398 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	Re: SWIFT - Power Steering failure i thought EPS is more reliable than hydraulic power steering, I have repaired my lancers power steering for RS.7000 from Mitsu A.S.S, they replaced oil seals and worked no rack it seems, Though i tried with duplicate cheap oils seals of Rs.350, it did not last even a day, so got it right with original seal kit which costed Rs.3500 for oil seal kit alone which is from NOK Japan. At that time i was sad, since my car did not have EPS, since i thought EPS is easily repairable, and less maintenance. But it seems it is complicated than hydraulic.
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17th May 2011, 14:39	#24
jeeva BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DXB / Nilgiris Posts: 769 Thanked: 1,278 Times View My Garage	Re: SWIFT - Power Steering failure Have you ever had the engine bay pressure washed sometime? A senior mech at a MASS was telling me about the rising number is EPS failures in Maruti cars when pressure washed (Swift and Alto tops the list according to him). Not sure if its because of the placement of the EPS module or it could be a design issue too. OT: A friend's Palio was send off for service and a thorough wash at the ASC. The over-enthusiastic lad at the wash section, pointed the water jet directly into the ECM.
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17th May 2011, 16:15	#25
sujitm BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 70 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Re: SWIFT - Power Steering failure Yes Jeeva, as part of the service, they do pressure wash the engine bay - have seen it sometimes. Quick question - how would recommend they clean the engine bay if not pressure wash? Nways regarding the EPS issue, it showed some signs of failure few months back, but then it automatically went away. But now - its totally failed - the power wash could have triggered the problem, not sure.
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17th May 2011, 18:02	#26
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,904 Times	Re: SWIFT - Power Steering failure I dont think the EPS module sits inside the engine bay, its inside the cabin under the dash integrated with the steering column.
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27th September 2013, 18:15	#27
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,751 Thanked: 5,425 Times	Re: SWIFT - Power Steering failure While taking a turn into my lane today, The EPS light comes on and the steering becomes rock hard. It starts working on its own again like nothing happened. 2 second later, the same thing happens and it starts working again in 2 seconds while the car is moving. What could this be ? I have taken an appointment with the service station tomorrow. I had passed through some puddles yesterday and while getting back today from Jogeshwari today too there was some rainfall. What could this be ? I don't want to drive around with a car which shuts off its EPS like that anytime.
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27th September 2013, 20:41	#29
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	Re: SWIFT - Power Steering failure Get it checked ASAP. Looks like some loose connection of the unit, motor.
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22nd January 2015, 18:26	#30
hemanthbs BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 38 Thanked: 40 Times	Swift VDI - EPS failure Hi Team Members, My new model Swift VDI, with 70868 Kms had a EPS failure. Last night , had switched off the engine at the traffic signal and when I started the car , the EPS light was glowing and the steering wheel had become very hard making it very tough to drive due to the EPS failure. However managed to cross the signal and pulled over. Tried to restart the car , the EPS failure still continued. Post 10 mins, tried starting the car and it was back to normal, The EPS started working and the light had gone off also. Today the same is working fine , would be taking the car to the service station to get the same checked. Has any one faced this issue recently. Ps Mods: pls move the post to a relevant thread as the earlier posint on this issue is closed.
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