I think I Screwed up my Swift suspension! Need Help!

Spartan · 22nd April 2009, 12:07

I have a Swift LDI done 5000Km and about a month and a half ago I went over a speed bump quite fast which made the car airborne for a split second and landed quite harshly on the front tires(205 55 R15). Ride has never been the same after that and the suspension is quite wobbly and loud. I mentioned this when I gave the car for servicing and the guy said it was because i changed the wheels and tires and that the suspension needed a little tightening. There was a very minute improvement after this but still the ride was quite horrible and the sounds are still present.

So i was thinking of getting some after market springs and dampers and looking for some recommendations. What would you suggest I get. I have heard a lot of good things about the Koni FSD but not sure if they are available for the Swift. Which would give best balance between handling and comfort? What prices am I looking at?

Thanks in Advance!!

predatorwheelz · 22nd April 2009, 12:52

Boss, are you changing the suspension only because you think its damaged? Or is it that you're genuinely interested in a performance modification?

If its the former, think again. The Swift suspension is quite sturdy, and its unlikely that one single bad bump could have ruines the springs and shocks. Get your wheels checked. There could be an out of alignment/balancing issue. If the issue is not with the wheels, go to a MASS and get the suspension checked for bent arms/spring damage.

If you're doing the replacement purely from a performance viewpoint, then try out Bilstein shocks. They will give you the best handling without sacrificing ride quality too much. Petes stocks them in India. Here's the link:

Pete's Automotive Products Pvt Limited

swift8847 · 22nd April 2009, 12:58

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Originally Posted by predatorwheelz

. The Swift suspension is quite sturdy, and its unlikely that one single bad bump could have ruines the springs and shocks. Get your wheels checked.

+1 to that. I have experienced this myself. I went over a speed breaker at high speed at one of the TBHP drives, landed, pulled the car over to the side. Checked if there were at any external damaged. None. Had no problem with the ride whatsoever.

Get your setup checked.

PS: After I went over this breaker the wipers were in motion. It was funny at that point of time.

watashi75 · 22nd April 2009, 13:32

Yeah the Swift suspension is quite sturdy. I have had some nasty bumps which made some really horrible sounds. But the suspension has always turned out to be fine in all the service checkups I have done so far.

Diesels have a softer suspension compared to petrol ones. So maybe just stiffening them up a bit might be enough.

sonirohit · 22nd April 2009, 13:50

Please bear in mind if you are making any aftermarket springs/shocks it might ruin your warranty....

HKS · 22nd April 2009, 13:50

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Originally Posted by watashi75

Diesels have a softer suspension compared to petrol ones. So maybe just stiffening them up a bit might be enough.

IMHO the diesel variant has stiffer suspension as the engine is heavier.

@above
My experience with the Swift diesel's suspension hasn't been that great. Could be a suspension or alignment problem.

Could you specific the problem in a bit more detail?

humyum · 22nd April 2009, 13:51

Brother get your tyres inspected for bubbles and alloy for bend and get it aligned and balanced again.99% this should sort it out!

Spartan · 22nd April 2009, 14:37

I actually want to upgrade to a better suspension eventually and this seems like a perfect time to get that done. Maybe I will get it done after the warranty runs out, so I will get the alignment doneand the wheels checked but I still want to get options on which aftermarket parts are best for the Swift diesel. Thanks!

watashi75 · 22nd April 2009, 15:02

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Originally Posted by HKS

IMHO the diesel variant has stiffer suspension as the engine is heavier.

IIRC somebody in this forum had mentioned that the diesel has softer suspensions. Cannot imagine a stiffer suspension than my petrol Swift!

Fountainheader · 22nd April 2009, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan

I actually want to upgrade to a better suspension eventually and this seems like a perfect time to get that done. Maybe I will get it done after the warranty runs out, so I will get the alignment doneand the wheels checked but I still want to get options on which aftermarket parts are best for the Swift diesel. Thanks!

5000 kms is way too early for a suspension upgrade. You might as well get your tires and alloys checked.

valhallen.282 · 22nd April 2009, 18:19

swift8847: dude it was hilarious to just see the way you were airborne and if i remember correctly it was in excess of 60-80.

Spartan: its not that easy to damage a swift suspension. if i remember right autocar had taken a petrol for the Raid de Himalaya and had broken the rear shocks after close to 2 days of really working it.
best case u have a balancing or a camber problem. check for both. worst case you may have bent one of the arms which a MASS will check for you. which still aint bad. not too much to worry about.

laluks · 22nd April 2009, 18:55

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Originally Posted by valhallen.282

swift8847: dude it was hilarious to just see the way you were airborne and if i remember correctly it was in excess of 60-80.

I remember that!!
Swift suspension can take such jumps with ease.

crazydiablo · 22nd April 2009, 19:29

Konis have just launch FSD for the Swifts, so it might be a good time to upgrade if you want.

HappyWheels · 22nd April 2009, 19:44

Seems like you are just trying to find a reason to get those mod's done! LOL!

First get the alignment checked and wheels checked. Maybe the wheels might be having a bulge or something.

Roy.S · 23rd April 2009, 00:33

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Originally Posted by Spartan

Maybe I will get it done after the warranty runs out,

If you have opted for the extended warranty, this could be a long wait. In any case this does not sound like damaged suspensions. Probably a wheel issue like others have pointed out.
I drove my old M800 with damaged suspensions for about 1k km. It was not a good ride by any standards, but there were no major issues with wobbliness or noise. The damage occured after I hit a depression in the road on the Blr-Pune highway after Hiriyur at about 110 kph.

22nd April 2009, 12:07	#1
Spartan Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: HYDERABAD Posts: 9 Thanked: 0 Times	I think I Screwed up my Swift suspension! Need Help! I have a Swift LDI done 5000Km and about a month and a half ago I went over a speed bump quite fast which made the car airborne for a split second and landed quite harshly on the front tires(205 55 R15). Ride has never been the same after that and the suspension is quite wobbly and loud. I mentioned this when I gave the car for servicing and the guy said it was because i changed the wheels and tires and that the suspension needed a little tightening. There was a very minute improvement after this but still the ride was quite horrible and the sounds are still present. So i was thinking of getting some after market springs and dampers and looking for some recommendations. What would you suggest I get. I have heard a lot of good things about the Koni FSD but not sure if they are available for the Swift. Which would give best balance between handling and comfort? What prices am I looking at? Thanks in Advance!!
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22nd April 2009, 12:52	#2
predatorwheelz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Delhi/Kolkata Posts: 1,720 Thanked: 1,972 Times View My Garage	Boss, are you changing the suspension only because you think its damaged? Or is it that you're genuinely interested in a performance modification? If its the former, think again. The Swift suspension is quite sturdy, and its unlikely that one single bad bump could have ruines the springs and shocks. Get your wheels checked. There could be an out of alignment/balancing issue. If the issue is not with the wheels, go to a MASS and get the suspension checked for bent arms/spring damage. If you're doing the replacement purely from a performance viewpoint, then try out Bilstein shocks. They will give you the best handling without sacrificing ride quality too much. Petes stocks them in India. Here's the link: Pete's Automotive Products Pvt Limited
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22nd April 2009, 13:32	#4
watashi75 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 518 Thanked: 12 Times	Yeah the Swift suspension is quite sturdy. I have had some nasty bumps which made some really horrible sounds. But the suspension has always turned out to be fine in all the service checkups I have done so far. Diesels have a softer suspension compared to petrol ones. So maybe just stiffening them up a bit might be enough.
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22nd April 2009, 13:50	#5
sonirohit BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 321 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	Please bear in mind if you are making any aftermarket springs/shocks it might ruin your warranty....
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22nd April 2009, 13:51	#7
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,751 Thanked: 5,425 Times	Brother get your tyres inspected for bubbles and alloy for bend and get it aligned and balanced again.99% this should sort it out!
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22nd April 2009, 14:37	#8
Spartan Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: HYDERABAD Posts: 9 Thanked: 0 Times	I actually want to upgrade to a better suspension eventually and this seems like a perfect time to get that done. Maybe I will get it done after the warranty runs out, so I will get the alignment doneand the wheels checked but I still want to get options on which aftermarket parts are best for the Swift diesel. Thanks!
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22nd April 2009, 18:19	#11
valhallen.282 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 331 Thanked: 196 Times	swift8847: dude it was hilarious to just see the way you were airborne and if i remember correctly it was in excess of 60-80. Spartan: its not that easy to damage a swift suspension. if i remember right autocar had taken a petrol for the Raid de Himalaya and had broken the rear shocks after close to 2 days of really working it. best case u have a balancing or a camber problem. check for both. worst case you may have bent one of the arms which a MASS will check for you. which still aint bad. not too much to worry about.
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22nd April 2009, 19:29	#13
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 854 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	Konis have just launch FSD for the Swifts, so it might be a good time to upgrade if you want.
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22nd April 2009, 19:44	#14
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,106 Thanked: 537 Times	Seems like you are just trying to find a reason to get those mod's done! LOL! First get the alignment checked and wheels checked. Maybe the wheels might be having a bulge or something.
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