Brand New Fiesta refuses to start!

sathee46 · 20th August 2009, 15:25

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Originally Posted by anachronix

I got a complete ECU reset from Ford A.S.S and the problem is history now. I beleive its nothing to do with the starter motor.

+1, I had my GEM module replaced and my ECU reset.

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Originally Posted by anachronix

There is one more issue in my car which I want to be clarified here, when I am revving my engine high and shifting gears I hear a 'creak' noise when I slot into 4th Gear. Either way from 3rd to 4th or downshifting from 5th to 4th and I can hear this 'creak' noise. Got it checked twice by the Ford A.S.S and they found nothing to be wrong.

It's something to do with the clutch depression and some minor adjustments there. I had the same issue with my reverse gear, this is what the service advisor told me when I had reported this problem

vnabhi · 20th August 2009, 16:35

Anachronix---I've never had the click sound while changing gears. As regards system G, i get it from Ford Service Centre---it used to cost Rs 250, but now costs Rs 299 for the past 2 months or so.

sathee46 · 20th August 2009, 16:45

It's not a simple click sound, it's sounds like grinding the gears.

frankmehta · 20th August 2009, 18:37

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Originally Posted by anachronix

Dude, first thing... my name is Arun! Ana sounds too girlish

I got a complete ECU reset from Ford A.S.S and the problem is history now. I beleive its nothing to do with the starter motor.

Take a look at the manual and there are a few guidelines given on what to do when the car refuses to start on the first crank.

There is one more issue in my car which I want to be clarified here, when I am revving my engine high and shifting gears I hear a 'creak' noise when I slot into 4th Gear. Either way from 3rd to 4th or downshifting from 5th to 4th and I can hear this 'creak' noise. Got it checked twice by the Ford A.S.S and they found nothing to be wrong.

Any thoughts on this, BHPians?

hahah. arun. sure thing. will have it checked by the A.S.Ses at the A.s.S.
I will refer to the manual. It's exhaustive and a fun read, but I haven't gotten it up.

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Originally Posted by sathee46

+1, I had my GEM module replaced and my ECU reset.

It's something to do with the clutch depression and some minor adjustments there. I had the same issue with my reverse gear, this is what the service advisor told me when I had reported this problem

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Originally Posted by sathee46

It's not a simple click sound, it's sounds like grinding the gears.

What's a GEM module? Did you have the same problem too???
Is this a factory defect in all Fiestas?

And about the grind, I get it sometimes, but in all cars I drive, since i do a lot of half-clutching

sathee46 · 20th August 2009, 20:10

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Originally Posted by frankmehta

What's a GEM module? Did you have the same problem too???
Is this a factory defect in all Fiestas?

I dont think so, i had experienced this may be once. Only after going through arun's thread i came to know the ECU was the culprit. The GEM module was replaced because I had an issue of the remote boot release not working at times. The GEM module is what controls all the electronics in the car. I also came to know that starting trouble is a known problem from the service advisor. After they had replaced the GEM, the ECU was also reset. I've not had any problem since.

P.S - Frank if you plan to claim anything on warranty in the electrical stuff get it done before you get any ICE inside the car. Hope you already know about ford's stringent warranty norms. Even if your horns are changed they could reject your claim easily.

nitrous · 20th August 2009, 20:36

So, were you remapped from an 'S' map to a 'zxi' map?

sathee46 · 20th August 2009, 21:03

No, It was delayed for a while just to get the remap of the 'S'. You know how long i waited for it

frankmehta · 21st August 2009, 09:25

I am going to the service center tomorrow. Will update what happened, here.

anachronix · 21st August 2009, 09:54

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Originally Posted by nitrous

So, were you remapped from an 'S' map to a 'zxi' map?

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Originally Posted by sathee46

No, It was delayed for a while just to get the remap of the 'S'. You know how long i waited for it

Guys,
Is the mapping different for a ZXi & the 'S'

!?

frankmehta · 21st August 2009, 10:02

Yes, it is! Heard it from the horse's mouth (service guys)

anachronix · 21st August 2009, 10:39

Damn! I need to get the remap done again. :(

frankmehta · 21st August 2009, 10:47

Why?? The ecu in the s already comes with a different map. Why do you want reflash the same software???

sathee46 · 21st August 2009, 10:50

It was not just a flash, it was reset and re-programmed in my case.

Rehaan · 21st August 2009, 11:08

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Originally Posted by anachronix

Rehaan,
The occasional less power & unresponsiveness is there! :(

Sorry i seem to have missed your reply.

Basically i was leaning towards a clogged fuel filter or even a problem with the car's fuel pump.

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Originally Posted by anachronix

.... when I am revving my engine high and shifting gears I hear a 'creak' noise when I slot into 4th Gear. Either way from 3rd to 4th or downshifting from 5th to 4th and I can hear this 'creak' noise...

Does this sound happen when you shift the gears? or when you press/release the clutch ?

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Originally Posted by anachronix

Damn! I need to get the remap done again. :(

I somehow doubt they have remapped the ecu. More like just reset it - would be my guess.

cya
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greenhorn · 21st August 2009, 11:11

if they ask you to use system G, do it.
At least in my case, System D really works !

20th August 2009, 16:35	#32
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,958 Thanked: 2,393 Times View My Garage	Anachronix---I've never had the click sound while changing gears. As regards system G, i get it from Ford Service Centre---it used to cost Rs 250, but now costs Rs 299 for the past 2 months or so.
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20th August 2009, 16:45	#33
sathee46 BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 465 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	It's not a simple click sound, it's sounds like grinding the gears.
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20th August 2009, 20:36	#36
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	So, were you remapped from an 'S' map to a 'zxi' map?
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20th August 2009, 21:03	#37
sathee46 BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 465 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	No, It was delayed for a while just to get the remap of the 'S'. You know how long i waited for it
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21st August 2009, 09:25	#38
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	I am going to the service center tomorrow. Will update what happened, here.
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21st August 2009, 10:02	#40
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	Yes, it is! Heard it from the horse's mouth (service guys)
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21st August 2009, 10:39	#41
anachronix Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Madras Posts: 3,286 Thanked: 1,336 Times View My Garage	Damn! I need to get the remap done again. :(
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21st August 2009, 10:47	#42
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	Why?? The ecu in the s already comes with a different map. Why do you want reflash the same software???
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21st August 2009, 10:50	#43
sathee46 BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 465 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	It was not just a flash, it was reset and re-programmed in my case.
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21st August 2009, 11:11	#45
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,744 Thanked: 4,387 Times View My Garage	if they ask you to use system G, do it. At least in my case, System D really works !
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