Install HIDs and Blow your battery ?

brraj · 14th September 2009, 11:51

As far as i have seen most of my friends HIDs installation done needed a battery replacement. Its time to change the brand i guess, we were using vision+ which had 3yrs warranty.

I guess Vision+ HIDs sold in Hot Tracks bangalore is a china make or some fake.

My advise is to contact theMag and get the HIds installed to your car as its tested & proven.

sgiitk · 14th September 2009, 12:34

HIDs are only 35W each as against 55W each for Halogens. They may need a little more juice to get the discharge going. Thus I will say that the battery should last as long if not longer with HID. The only catch can be if the associated electronics is of a poor quality and does some damage. Even here the component(s) will overheat and burn out pretty fast.

vivekhs · 14th September 2009, 13:21

hi hellstar,

I have been using HID for my headlamps as well as fog lamps in total i have 4 HID's running, i drive a swift and the battery is company fitted and still its running fine without any issues ODO reads 40,000 plus.

These days i have heard that the HID kits available are really not the first quality one.

hellstar · 14th September 2009, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by brraj

As far as i have seen most of my friends HIDs installation done needed a battery replacement. Its time to change the brand i guess, we were using vision+ which had 3yrs warranty.

I guess Vision+ HIDs sold in Hot Tracks bangalore is a china make or some fake.

My advise is to contact theMag and get the HIds installed to your car as its tested & proven.

ok sir advise taken , but still the root cause remains ...

amith.2974 · 14th September 2009, 13:51

I've been using a HID kit on my baleno since september of 2007. My battery died once during the september of 2008 ( I can blame this on the fact that i always had to listen to music when I am in my car, even when the car wasnt running). I didnt have alot of problems with my HID kit either, except having to change my wiring kit once cause of careless servicing by the maruti guys. Apart from that its still working fine.

hellstar · 14th September 2009, 18:31

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Originally Posted by amith.2974

I've been using a HID kit on my baleno since september of 2007. My battery died once during the september of 2008 ( I can blame this on the fact that i always had to listen to music when I am in my car, even when the car wasnt running). I didnt have alot of problems with my HID kit either, except having to change my wiring kit once cause of careless servicing by the maruti guys. Apart from that its still working fine.

yet another good experience , thank you let me know. but do your remember the brand name of you HID kit?

amith.2974 · 14th September 2009, 18:59

I have a bosch hid kit, with a temp of 6000k.

These are the 'facts' mentioned in my instruction manual

Electric consumption for a HID lamp is 35W and for a Halogen bulb is 55W

Luminance is 3200Lm for a HID lamp and 1000Lm for a Halogen bulb

Chroma is 4200-8000K for a HID lamp and that of a Halogen bulb is 2400-3600K

Lifespan of a HID lamp is 2500 hours and that of a Halogen bulb is 280 hours.

gigy · 14th September 2009, 21:00

HID kit even if assumed to have unknown influence on battery cannot damage the battery alone. battery is in parallel to alternator and alternator will get damaged before battery. battery is capable of giving much higher current and has better insulation than alternator.
try to find find root cause

hellstar · 14th September 2009, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by amith.2974

I have a bosch hid kit, with a temp of 6000k.

These are the 'facts' mentioned in my instruction manual

Electric consumption for a HID lamp is 35W and for a Halogen bulb is 55W

Luminance is 3200Lm for a HID lamp and 1000Lm for a Halogen bulb

Chroma is 4200-8000K for a HID lamp and that of a Halogen bulb is 2400-3600K

Lifespan of a HID lamp is 2500 hours and that of a Halogen bulb is 280 hours.

nice summary dude thnx for all that info.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gigy

HID kit even if assumed to have unknown influence on battery cannot damage the battery alone. battery is in parallel to alternator and alternator will get damaged before battery. battery is capable of giving much higher current and has better insulation than alternator.
try to find find root cause

thats exactly my contention.

Turbo Head · 18th September 2009, 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by amith.2974

I have a bosch hid kit, with a temp of 6000k.

BTW Bosch does not manufacture HID, must be a fake Chinese, though even I had couple of pair in my Scorpio

amith.2974 · 18th September 2009, 11:45

yeah it could be, but fortunately for me they have been running for over 2 years now,so no reason to complain

hellstar · 18th September 2009, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo Head

BTW Bosch does not manufacture HID, must be a fake Chinese, though even I had couple of pair in my Scorpio

is that past tense you are talking about , if so why did you change them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amith.2974

yeah it could be, but fortunately for me they have been running for over 2 years now,so no reason to complain

thats good to know what brand are they ?

Turbo Head · 21st September 2009, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellstar

is that past tense you are talking about , if so why did you change them.

Actually I sold it (Scorpio) to a close friend, who has installed another pair of HID and using them flawlessly. Only a replaced tube so far (from Sep, 2007).

hellstar · 21st September 2009, 14:35

ok , i got similar experiences from some TBHPians in chennai so , i am getting those brands online

Turbo Head · 29th September 2009, 18:19

^ Hellstar : Any updates so far ?

14th September 2009, 11:51	#16
brraj BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 913 Thanked: 1,282 Times	As far as i have seen most of my friends HIDs installation done needed a battery replacement. Its time to change the brand i guess, we were using vision+ which had 3yrs warranty. I guess Vision+ HIDs sold in Hot Tracks bangalore is a china make or some fake. My advise is to contact theMag and get the HIds installed to your car as its tested & proven.
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14th September 2009, 12:34	#17
sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	HIDs are only 35W each as against 55W each for Halogens. They may need a little more juice to get the discharge going. Thus I will say that the battery should last as long if not longer with HID. The only catch can be if the associated electronics is of a poor quality and does some damage. Even here the component(s) will overheat and burn out pretty fast.
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14th September 2009, 13:21	#18
vivekhs Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	hi hellstar, I have been using HID for my headlamps as well as fog lamps in total i have 4 HID's running, i drive a swift and the battery is company fitted and still its running fine without any issues ODO reads 40,000 plus. These days i have heard that the HID kits available are really not the first quality one.
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14th September 2009, 13:51	#20
amith.2974 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 71 Thanked: 2 Times	I've been using a HID kit on my baleno since september of 2007. My battery died once during the september of 2008 ( I can blame this on the fact that i always had to listen to music when I am in my car, even when the car wasnt running). I didnt have alot of problems with my HID kit either, except having to change my wiring kit once cause of careless servicing by the maruti guys. Apart from that its still working fine.
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14th September 2009, 18:59	#22
amith.2974 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 71 Thanked: 2 Times	I have a bosch hid kit, with a temp of 6000k. These are the 'facts' mentioned in my instruction manual Electric consumption for a HID lamp is 35W and for a Halogen bulb is 55W Luminance is 3200Lm for a HID lamp and 1000Lm for a Halogen bulb Chroma is 4200-8000K for a HID lamp and that of a Halogen bulb is 2400-3600K Lifespan of a HID lamp is 2500 hours and that of a Halogen bulb is 280 hours.
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14th September 2009, 21:00	#23
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	HID kit even if assumed to have unknown influence on battery cannot damage the battery alone. battery is in parallel to alternator and alternator will get damaged before battery. battery is capable of giving much higher current and has better insulation than alternator. try to find find root cause
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18th September 2009, 11:45	#26
amith.2974 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 71 Thanked: 2 Times	yeah it could be, but fortunately for me they have been running for over 2 years now,so no reason to complain
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21st September 2009, 14:35	#29
hellstar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 44 Times	ok , i got similar experiences from some TBHPians in chennai so , i am getting those brands online
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29th September 2009, 18:19	#30
Turbo Head BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 322 Thanked: 215 Times	^ Hellstar : Any updates so far ?
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