Need help on identifying KKK turbo from Tata Indigo

techn0l0gist · 3rd October 2009, 23:52

Hi Guys,

I am trying to figure out the specs for the turbocharger used on the Indigo - I managed to take a look at it - Its made by KKK and it has the following part number on the housing :

5435 101 4866

Does anyone have any idea on what are the specs of this turbo? Is it a K03 turbocharger ?

Thanks in Advance.

Amit

techn0l0gist · 30th October 2009, 00:30

Okay guys found this out on my own - the turbo is a KKK KP35 turbo, the K03 turbochargers' numbers seem to start with 5X03 , and similarly the K04 is numbered starting with 5X04

Mpower · 30th October 2009, 01:19

Indigo but which engine is this. Dicor?

They also buy turbos from TVS.

dinar · 30th October 2009, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

Indigo but which engine is this. Dicor?

They also buy turbos from TVS.

The 1.4L TATA block uses KP35 , all the engines. In fact even the New 1.3L engines use the same turbo, all the companies, Suzuki,Fiat and Tata for the 75BHP version.

techn0l0gist · 30th October 2009, 11:44

@Mpower, regarding the indica/indigo dicor engine - when i asked around i got to hear two views from different people - some said its a KP35 and others said its a Garrett GT1444V, since I haven't seen the dicor i cannot say for sure which one it is.

yes, TEL(turbo energy limted) is a part of TVS that makes turbos in collaboration with KKK/Borg-warner

v1p3r · 30th October 2009, 19:44

The GT1444V is used on the Yaris diesel. I think that's a 1.4 as well.

greenhorn · 14th November 2009, 08:54

http://www.honeywell.com/sites/servl...8-74B54C4A5004
Baires Turbo S.A.

apparently the IDI turbo uses the KKK KP35
The Dicor uses a Garret GT1241SZ, at least the 71 bhp version we all know

But what is this GT1444V 90 bhp engine ????

techn0l0gist · 14th November 2009, 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenhorn

http://www.honeywell.com/sites/servl...8-74B54C4A5004
Baires Turbo S.A.

apparently the IDI turbo uses the KKK KP35
The Dicor uses a Garret GT1241SZ, at least the 71 bhp version we all know

But what is this GT1444V 90 bhp engine ????

There is another "trim" of the dicor engine that does 90 bhp - not sure which version and whether it was sold in India

greenhorn · 14th November 2009, 20:04

But a lot of people say putting it in an indica/indigo is not possible because the gearbox can't stand it

teknophobia · 16th November 2009, 11:02

The indica engine tuning levels have been different based on where in the world they have been sold, e.g the 1.4 SOHC put out 85bhp in the UK, so I would guess the 90bhp Dicor would have been a tune level for SA, but I can't confirm.

headers · 25th March 2010, 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by techn0l0gist

5435 101 4866

Does anyone have any idea on what are the specs of this turbo? Is it a K03 turbocharger ?

IMO This is a K03 TC from TEL. AFAIK, The number you see is the RM part number.

Quote:

Originally Posted by techn0l0gist

Okay guys found this out on my own - the turbo is a KKK KP35 turbo, the K03 turbochargers' numbers seem to start with 5X03 , and similarly the K04 is numbered starting with 5X04

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinar

The 1.4L TATA block uses KP35 , all the engines. In fact even the New 1.3L engines use the same turbo, all the companies, Suzuki,Fiat and Tata for the 75BHP version.

I'm afraid TATA does not use KP35 TC in all engines, however a variation of KP35 is used in Tata, Suzuki and Fiat Engines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by techn0l0gist

@Mpower, regarding the indica/indigo dicor engine - when i asked around i got to hear two views from different people - some said its a KP35 and others said its a Garrett GT1444V, since I haven't seen the dicor i cannot say for sure which one it is.

yes, TEL(turbo energy limted) is a part of TVS that makes turbos in collaboration with KKK/Borg-warner

One cant make the partnumber or model of a TC by just looking at the engine or TC from outside sir!

FYI, AFAIK, the TCs used in the IDI engines are K03/K04 family and the 1.3MJD used KP35 family.

dinar · 26th March 2010, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by headers

I'm afraid TATA does not use KP35 TC in all engines, however a variation of KP35 is used in Tata, Suzuki and Fiat Engines.

FYI, AFAIK, the TCs used in the IDI engines are K03/K04 family and the 1.3MJD used KP35 family.

By K03/04 turbos do you mean hybrids are used by Indian companies? That first for me.A k03/K04 turbos will be to big for a small capacity [read 1.2-1.4L] engine the lag will be huge.
I mentioned All TATA engines in 1.4L capacity. that includes IDI.
The 2.0L and above capacity used different turbos ranging from K03 to GT17 and GT17 VNT.And most of the indian companies [rather Indian models] with diesel engines used these or variation of these.including M&M,Chevrolet,etc.

headers · 26th March 2010, 13:22

@Dinar: - I am 100% sure about my source of information sir. As this is a public forum, i cannot disclose many details here.

You'd be surprised to note that there are many things common in Engineering

dinar · 26th March 2010, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by headers

@Dinar: - I am 100% sure about my source of information sir. As this is a public forum, i cannot disclose many details here.

You'd be surprised to note that there are many things common in Engineering

I do not get what exactly your saying, Common engineering in what?
KP35 is KP35 and K03 is K03. Different manufacturers use these same turbo on there engines.

nitrous · 27th March 2010, 01:30

Hi Dinar
I would trust Headers 99 times out of 100 when it comes to turbo charger model numbers.

3rd October 2009, 23:52	#1
techn0l0gist BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 364 Thanked: 89 Times	Need help on identifying KKK turbo from Tata Indigo Hi Guys, I am trying to figure out the specs for the turbocharger used on the Indigo - I managed to take a look at it - Its made by KKK and it has the following part number on the housing : 5435 101 4866 Does anyone have any idea on what are the specs of this turbo? Is it a K03 turbocharger ? Thanks in Advance. Amit Last edited by techn0l0gist : 4th October 2009 at 00:09.
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30th October 2009, 00:30	#2
techn0l0gist BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 364 Thanked: 89 Times	Okay guys found this out on my own - the turbo is a KKK KP35 turbo, the K03 turbochargers' numbers seem to start with 5X03 , and similarly the K04 is numbered starting with 5X04
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30th October 2009, 01:19	#3
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	Indigo but which engine is this. Dicor? They also buy turbos from TVS.
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30th October 2009, 11:44	#5
techn0l0gist BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 364 Thanked: 89 Times	@Mpower, regarding the indica/indigo dicor engine - when i asked around i got to hear two views from different people - some said its a KP35 and others said its a Garrett GT1444V, since I haven't seen the dicor i cannot say for sure which one it is. yes, TEL(turbo energy limted) is a part of TVS that makes turbos in collaboration with KKK/Borg-warner Last edited by techn0l0gist : 30th October 2009 at 11:55.
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30th October 2009, 19:44	#6
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	The GT1444V is used on the Yaris diesel. I think that's a 1.4 as well.
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14th November 2009, 08:54	#7
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,400 Times View My Garage	http://www.honeywell.com/sites/servl...8-74B54C4A5004 Baires Turbo S.A. apparently the IDI turbo uses the KKK KP35 The Dicor uses a Garret GT1241SZ, at least the 71 bhp version we all know But what is this GT1444V 90 bhp engine ????
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14th November 2009, 20:04	#9
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,400 Times View My Garage	But a lot of people say putting it in an indica/indigo is not possible because the gearbox can't stand it
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16th November 2009, 11:02	#10
teknophobia BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: WB/MH Posts: 385 Thanked: 121 Times	The indica engine tuning levels have been different based on where in the world they have been sold, e.g the 1.4 SOHC put out 85bhp in the UK, so I would guess the 90bhp Dicor would have been a tune level for SA, but I can't confirm.
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26th March 2010, 13:22	#13
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 559 Times	@Dinar: - I am 100% sure about my source of information sir. As this is a public forum, i cannot disclose many details here. You'd be surprised to note that there are many things common in Engineering
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27th March 2010, 01:30	#15
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Hi Dinar I would trust Headers 99 times out of 100 when it comes to turbo charger model numbers.
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