Verna CRDI fuel efficiency

dinu2506 · 21st October 2009, 16:00

I bought a new Verna CRDI SX 3 weeks back. The car is doing pretty well and it has just crossed 1000km 2 days back, the 1st service is not yet done. One thing which is worrying me is the mileage. Its probably not returning the kind of mileage I expected. I know its a new car and it might improve with use, but it will be great if I can get feedback from other users. I am getting 11.5km in city and 15.1 on highways with a relatively light foot (full tank to full tank method, same fuel station - Shell). I expected more, but is this fine during the initial period?

live2drive · 21st October 2009, 16:35

Yes, 11.5 is absolutely fine for a new engine. Expect around 13.5 to 14kmpl in city driving after the run in period.

pras.oct25 · 21st October 2009, 16:47

Even I started off with a relatively poor mileage of around 11. It has come up to a steady 14 now at the end of 1 year and hopefully can bring it up to 15 now that Ive finished 3rd service.
Dont worry too much about this. It should improve with time. Also an eye on the driving habits.

bblost · 21st October 2009, 16:51

I don't know what the expected milage should be on a new Verna.
But if you feel its low, suggest you get your tire pressure checked.

Do remember that pressure needs to be checked on cold tires.
So do it first thing in the morning, travelling as little as possible by going to the nearest air pump.

newcoolgadgets · 21st October 2009, 17:21

Hopefully, your Verna's FE will improve after the first service. Make sure you get the air filter cleaned in the first service. And as bblost suggested, get your tyre pressure checked. I would also suggest you get the oil changed in the first service, although Hyundai recommends the first oil change at 10,000 kms. I have seen, especially with SX variants, that they tend to be in the dealer's stockyard for longer periods, and the factory filled oil is atleast 3-4 months old, maybe more, when your car reaches its first service. Check the condition of the oil in your Verna by pulling out the dipstick. I plan to change the oil in my Verna SX during the first service too.

Also how long do you drive your Verna everyday? Diesel engines reach their optimum performance level only when they have warmed up. If you travel very short distances, your engine does not reach its optimum temperature and therefore your FE is a bit low.

dinu2506 · 21st October 2009, 21:10

Thanks all, thats reassuring. Coming to tire pressures, I have upgraded the stock tires to 195 60 R14, so that too must be contributing to a lesser FE to a small extent. The tire pressures are fine, in fact, a wee bit overinflated (33 psi against the recommended 32psi). I manage around 10.5 kmpl on my Civic in the same driving cycle, so was a bit let down by the 11.5 on the Verna. I hope it improves with time.

Should I bring the FE issue to notice during the 1st service? I might be giving it this weekend.

pras.oct25 · 21st October 2009, 23:16

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Originally Posted by dinu2506

Thanks all, thats reassuring. Coming to tire pressures, I have upgraded the stock tires to 195 60 R14, so that too must be contributing to a lesser FE to a small extent. The tire pressures are fine, in fact, a wee bit overinflated (33 psi against the recommended 32psi). I manage around 10.5 kmpl on my Civic in the same driving cycle, so was a bit let down by the 11.5 on the Verna. I hope it improves with time.

Should I bring the FE issue to notice during the 1st service? I might be giving it this weekend.

I am running 195s and there is no visible difference in the mileage. Considering the short time that you have run the car, give it some time to settle down and get used to your driving habits as well. I'm sure even the mechanics will say the same thing - "new car sir, give it time sir, blah blah". But yeah, that shouldnt stop you from bringing it to their attention.

nitrous · 21st October 2009, 23:23

^^Mr. Press, you're running 'energy' tyres. Its supposed to help FE a bit.

pras.oct25 · 22nd October 2009, 00:09

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^^Mr. Press, you're running 'energy' tyres. Its supposed to help FE a bit.

yes, thats why I said no difference in mileage as such. But does shifting from 185 to 195 affect mileage that heavily?

dinu2506 · 30th October 2009, 15:58

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Originally Posted by pras.oct25

I am running 195s and there is no visible difference in the mileage. Considering the short time that you have run the car, give it some time to settle down and get used to your driving habits as well. I'm sure even the mechanics will say the same thing - "new car sir, give it time sir, blah blah". But yeah, that shouldnt stop you from bringing it to their attention.

I got my first service done today. The service station said the same thing "new car sir, give it time sir, blah blah". They also checked on the Hi Scan and said everything is hunky dory. So, lets see how it improves with age. I'm tanking her up today, lets see in the next fill.

VarunM · 3rd November 2009, 12:35

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Originally Posted by dinu2506

I am getting 11.5km in city and 15.1 on highways with a relatively light foot (full tank to full tank method, same fuel station - Shell). I expected more, but is this fine during the initial period?

Hi Dinu,
Even I am owning a Verna CRDI SX for the past 7 months. Even I faced the same problem of lower FE initially which I attributed to my sporty driving style. But however, I also used to tank up judiciously at only Shell Petrol Bunks.But one instance while on a long drive I was forced to tank up at IOC outlet. And voila the FE returned was 18Kmpl for that tank, whereas I would get max 15 Kmpl on the highway and around 11.5 - 12 kmpl in the City (now around 14-15kmpl)

Ever since then I have made sure that I dont tank up at Shell bunks. One reasoning that I got from my fellow Team- Bhpians is that Verna CDRI engine works better on normal diesel rather than one with additives which would be present in Shell diesel or any other superior grade fuel.

Please note that I have nothing against Shell (I still fill up my bike at Shell), but this has been my experience wrt Verna CRDI.

I guess it wont hurt to give a try. Please let me know if it worked.

Regards,
Varun

dinu2506 · 3rd November 2009, 13:09

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Originally Posted by VarunM

Hi Dinu,
Even I am owning a Verna CRDI SX for the past 7 months. Even I faced the same problem of lower FE initially which I attributed to my sporty driving style. But however, I also used to tank up judiciously at only Shell Petrol Bunks.But one instance while on a long drive I was forced to tank up at IOC outlet. And voila the FE returned was 18Kmpl for that tank, whereas I would get max 15 Kmpl on the highway and around 11.5 - 12 kmpl in the City (now around 14-15kmpl)

Ever since then I have made sure that I dont tank up at Shell bunks. One reasoning that I got from my fellow Team- Bhpians is that Verna CDRI engine works better on normal diesel rather than one with additives which would be present in Shell diesel or any other superior grade fuel.

Please note that I have nothing against Shell (I still fill up my bike at Shell), but this has been my experience wrt Verna CRDI.

I guess it wont hurt to give a try. Please let me know if it worked.

Regards,
Varun

Thanks for the feedback Varun. I have only used Shell normal diesel till now, but I guess there is no harm in trying out an IOC or BP or HP. Will keep you updated. Anyone else with a similar experience?

newcoolgadgets · 3rd November 2009, 13:32

My dealer recommended that I use normal diesel only and not premium when I took delivery of my Verna. He too said that the CRDI mill works better with normal diesel. I have been filling up at BP with normal diesel since Day1, and my Verna is consistently returning 18 kmpl with 90% AC on and almost 30% "spirited" driving. However, for my last fill, I tried BP Hi-Speed Diesel, and although the FE remained the same, the engine is running more silent and smooth.

I recommend you give BP a try.

VarunM · 25th November 2009, 10:03

Hi Dinu,

Did you try filling up with normal diesel on your Verna??? If yes, was there any improvements in the FE??

dinu2506 · 25th November 2009, 10:36

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Originally Posted by VarunM

Hi Dinu,

Did you try filling up with normal diesel on your Verna??? If yes, was there any improvements in the FE??

I have only filled normal diesel everytime but always from Shell. The FE is improving consistently. It is around 12.5km/lit now. The last fill was from BP. Let me see what the FE is. Will keep you updated.

21st October 2009, 16:00	#1
dinu2506 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,077 Thanked: 958 Times View My Garage	Verna CRDI fuel efficiency I bought a new Verna CRDI SX 3 weeks back. The car is doing pretty well and it has just crossed 1000km 2 days back, the 1st service is not yet done. One thing which is worrying me is the mileage. Its probably not returning the kind of mileage I expected. I know its a new car and it might improve with use, but it will be great if I can get feedback from other users. I am getting 11.5km in city and 15.1 on highways with a relatively light foot (full tank to full tank method, same fuel station - Shell). I expected more, but is this fine during the initial period? Last edited by dinu2506 : 21st October 2009 at 16:02.
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21st October 2009, 16:35	#2
live2drive BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 525 Thanked: 27 Times View My Garage	Yes, 11.5 is absolutely fine for a new engine. Expect around 13.5 to 14kmpl in city driving after the run in period.
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21st October 2009, 16:47	#3
pras.oct25 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 665 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Even I started off with a relatively poor mileage of around 11. It has come up to a steady 14 now at the end of 1 year and hopefully can bring it up to 15 now that Ive finished 3rd service. Dont worry too much about this. It should improve with time. Also an eye on the driving habits.
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21st October 2009, 16:51	#4
bblost Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 11,008 Thanked: 15,353 Times View My Garage	I don't know what the expected milage should be on a new Verna. But if you feel its low, suggest you get your tire pressure checked. Do remember that pressure needs to be checked on cold tires. So do it first thing in the morning, travelling as little as possible by going to the nearest air pump.
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21st October 2009, 17:21	#5
newcoolgadgets BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nagpur Posts: 183 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Hopefully, your Verna's FE will improve after the first service. Make sure you get the air filter cleaned in the first service. And as bblost suggested, get your tyre pressure checked. I would also suggest you get the oil changed in the first service, although Hyundai recommends the first oil change at 10,000 kms. I have seen, especially with SX variants, that they tend to be in the dealer's stockyard for longer periods, and the factory filled oil is atleast 3-4 months old, maybe more, when your car reaches its first service. Check the condition of the oil in your Verna by pulling out the dipstick. I plan to change the oil in my Verna SX during the first service too. Also how long do you drive your Verna everyday? Diesel engines reach their optimum performance level only when they have warmed up. If you travel very short distances, your engine does not reach its optimum temperature and therefore your FE is a bit low.
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21st October 2009, 21:10	#6
dinu2506 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,077 Thanked: 958 Times View My Garage	Thanks all, thats reassuring. Coming to tire pressures, I have upgraded the stock tires to 195 60 R14, so that too must be contributing to a lesser FE to a small extent. The tire pressures are fine, in fact, a wee bit overinflated (33 psi against the recommended 32psi). I manage around 10.5 kmpl on my Civic in the same driving cycle, so was a bit let down by the 11.5 on the Verna. I hope it improves with time. Should I bring the FE issue to notice during the 1st service? I might be giving it this weekend.
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21st October 2009, 23:23	#8
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	^^Mr. Press, you're running 'energy' tyres. Its supposed to help FE a bit.
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3rd November 2009, 13:32	#13
newcoolgadgets BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nagpur Posts: 183 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	My dealer recommended that I use normal diesel only and not premium when I took delivery of my Verna. He too said that the CRDI mill works better with normal diesel. I have been filling up at BP with normal diesel since Day1, and my Verna is consistently returning 18 kmpl with 90% AC on and almost 30% "spirited" driving. However, for my last fill, I tried BP Hi-Speed Diesel, and although the FE remained the same, the engine is running more silent and smooth. I recommend you give BP a try.
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25th November 2009, 10:03	#14
VarunM BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 30 Thanked: 4 Times	Hi Dinu, Did you try filling up with normal diesel on your Verna??? If yes, was there any improvements in the FE??
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