Hydrogen injection to boost power/efficiency

tsk1979 · 16th November 2005, 15:51

I came across this article in the wired magazine
http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,69529,00.html
It seems that a device uses engine power to generate hydrogen. This hydrogen is injected in the engine along with the fuel, and in the process increases the efficency of the engine by more complete burning of diesel.
The net gain in efficiency is positive as the energy spent in generating Hydrogen is less than the amount of energy increase. In this process Hydrogen is a catalyst which aids in better burning of diesel. Unlike water injection which boosts efficiency and power only when its detonation limited, hydrogen injection will give a net gain in most cases. Infact in canada truckers have started using it extensively to lower fuel costs.

drifter · 16th November 2005, 22:15

i think this has been in use for some time now...there was an article on hydrogen fumigation of diesel engines....and i think theres a thread that exists on the forum about it...search it up...might turn up some good links.

Drifter

ananthkamath · 16th November 2005, 22:49

Correction drifter i think that discussion was about LPG fumigation not hydrogen.

drifter · 16th November 2005, 22:51

Are you sure? I think i remember reading hydrogen.

Drifter

tsk1979 · 17th November 2005, 10:42

I searched hydrogen in search forums, and did not come up with anything about hydrogen injection to improve efficiency

Harish.Krovvidi · 17th August 2008, 18:34

Hi... an electrolyser is made to run off the car battery, this breaks down water into Hydrogen and oxygen gases, which in turn is fed thru the air intake similar to the way LPG /CNG is in a Carb fitted car.

Water cannot be broked into its elements just by passing electric current, we need to add backing soda, salt ... salt isnt advisable as it gives off chlorine which anit good for anyone.... so its backing soda to go with... oh i fgt you could also use caustic soda or citric acid to water...

If you want the designs for making this contraption let me know. am making one and got my self an really old sunny to test it on.

let you ll know of the results

Jr Godzilla · 17th August 2008, 22:22

i read somewhere that the main problem was storing hydrogen in a safe manner on a commercial vehicle due to its properties.

rohan_fonseca · 17th August 2008, 23:50

Thread already exists. Please use the search funtion. (sorry tsk, just couldn't help it

) http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...rformance.html

16th November 2005, 15:51	#1
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Hydrogen injection to boost power/efficiency I came across this article in the wired magazine http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,69529,00.html It seems that a device uses engine power to generate hydrogen. This hydrogen is injected in the engine along with the fuel, and in the process increases the efficency of the engine by more complete burning of diesel. The net gain in efficiency is positive as the energy spent in generating Hydrogen is less than the amount of energy increase. In this process Hydrogen is a catalyst which aids in better burning of diesel. Unlike water injection which boosts efficiency and power only when its detonation limited, hydrogen injection will give a net gain in most cases. Infact in canada truckers have started using it extensively to lower fuel costs.
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16th November 2005, 22:15	#2
drifter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,488 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	i think this has been in use for some time now...there was an article on hydrogen fumigation of diesel engines....and i think theres a thread that exists on the forum about it...search it up...might turn up some good links. Drifter
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16th November 2005, 22:49	#3
ananthkamath Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mangalore Posts: 1,209 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	Correction drifter i think that discussion was about LPG fumigation not hydrogen.
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16th November 2005, 22:51	#4
drifter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,488 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	Are you sure? I think i remember reading hydrogen. Drifter
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17th November 2005, 10:42	#5
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	I searched hydrogen in search forums, and did not come up with anything about hydrogen injection to improve efficiency
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17th August 2008, 18:34	#6
Harish.Krovvidi BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 94 Thanked: 95 Times View My Garage	Hi... an electrolyser is made to run off the car battery, this breaks down water into Hydrogen and oxygen gases, which in turn is fed thru the air intake similar to the way LPG /CNG is in a Carb fitted car. Water cannot be broked into its elements just by passing electric current, we need to add backing soda, salt ... salt isnt advisable as it gives off chlorine which anit good for anyone.... so its backing soda to go with... oh i fgt you could also use caustic soda or citric acid to water... If you want the designs for making this contraption let me know. am making one and got my self an really old sunny to test it on. let you ll know of the results
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17th August 2008, 22:22	#7
Jr Godzilla BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: pune Posts: 269 Thanked: 151 Times View My Garage	i read somewhere that the main problem was storing hydrogen in a safe manner on a commercial vehicle due to its properties.
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17th August 2008, 23:50	#8
rohan_fonseca BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Panaji Posts: 984 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Thread already exists. Please use the search funtion. (sorry tsk, just couldn't help it) http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...rformance.html
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