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View Poll Results: Is your Skoda Reliable? | |||
I have had No Major Issues with my non DSG Skoda. | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 41 | 51.90% |
I have had Major Issues with my non DSG Skoda. | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 10 | 12.66% |
I have had No Major Issues with my DSG Skoda. | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 13 | 16.46% |
I have had Only DSG issues with my 6 speed DSG | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 3 | 3.80% |
I have had Only DSG issues with my 7 speed DSG. | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 11 | 13.92% |
I have had Major Issues with my DSG Skoda other than the DSG. | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 5 | 6.33% |
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Have PMed you the same. Please do share. | |
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Note to Moderators: Please edit or remove the post if you find this information to be in anyway against forum rules or causes any inconvenience. Note to users who are against Skoda: The intention of this survey is not to prove you wrong. In fact, in my conclusion, I have mentioned Skoda cars are not for users who are averse to taking risks. The number of threads and posts dedicated to Skoda bashing should be enough to discourage any potential buyers. This is for those enthusiast drivers (including me) who are not able to find any other enthusiast car, but would like to know the actual amount of risk they have to take to own such a car. Survey Results: Totally I received 193 surveys that were complete. Out of this, I filtered out bogus surveys and only 118 surveys were left. Bogus surveys are posted by users who do not own a Skoda car and 9 out of 10 times they will make a mistake in the data. Some examples are: A person said he owns a Rapid with 7 speed DSG. Rapid does not come with a 7 speed DSG. A person said he had to change the turbo charger in his Rapid petrol car. Rapid does not come with a turbo petrol engine, only Octavia has. A person said he owns a third generation Octavia for 3 years. From the 118 surveys, below are some key points: To the question "On a scale of 0 to 10 how likely are you to recommend a Skoda car to a friend or relative": 45% (54 of 118) scored a 7 or above 60% (22 of 37) of petrol users scored 7 or above. 39% (32 of 81) of diesel users scored 7 or above To the question "On a scale of 0 to 10 how satisfied are you with your dealer" 36% (38 of 105) scored a 7 or above Major component replacements: 45% (54 of 118) of the cars had one or more components replaced 12% (3 of 24) of cars owned less than a year had one or more components replaced 27% (16 of 58) of cars owned up to 2 years had one or more components replaced 39% (35 of 89) of cars owned up to 3 years had one or more components replaced 44% (49 of 111) of cars owned 3 to 5 years had one or more components replaced In the above analysis, the number of cars is progressive. The number of cars owned upto 2 years is a sum of cars owned less than a year and 1 to 2 years, and so on. AC compressor - 12% (15 of 118) Power windows - 11% (13 of 118) Gearbox - 8.5% (10 of 118). 7 of these 10 were DSG gearboxes Turbochargers - 6.7% (8 of 118) Entertainment system - 3.3% (4 of 118) ABS control - 1.6% (2 of 118) To the question "Did you have a breakdown where your car had to be towed": 17% (21 of 118) replied yes. 9 of these were petrol and 12 of these diesel Below are some verbatim comments (both positive and negative) from users. Positives:
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Conclusion: My conclusions based on the above results and also from my observations from the various Skoda problem threads in TBHP:
Conclusion Specific to Octavia 1.8TSI Elegance My conclusions based on the above results related to Octavia 1.8TSI:
Finally, my decision from this survey: I am going ahead and buying a Skoda car. Just to avoid the risk of the DSG7 failure, I am considering Superb 1.8TSI MT Elegance as an alternate to Octavia. Call me a braveheart, suicidal or a Masochist (as another member duly pointed out ![]() | ||
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| ![]() Very informative. Also in the forum majority of the common issue reported is about a DSG failure. Rest are mostly one off cases. Hence warranty should be sufficient for that. Appreciate your research before making a buy. Thanks to the world of the internet, you can now get opinions from a wider group of people. How about extending the survey to a greater audience? And its better you make their VIN or some stronger identity. Maybe the cars and their specs may not match, but still it isnt completely foolproof. |
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Also, I am all in praise for you to undertake a proper due diligence and the in-depth research that you have undertaken before making the purchase. All the best! Regards, Saket | |
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So far its been a good run of two plus years and some 21K odd kms. Good service from the dealer/ workshop and Skoda as well so far. No grumbles from my side. I really want to know the results of this survey which I also took a couple of days back. I read the JD Power survey results and am quite interested to know how this one stacks up against that one. By the way, I wish you the very best with your Octy. Enjoy! Last edited by shankar.balan : 14th January 2014 at 11:00. | |
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I have shared the results a few posts above (link below) http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post3343872 Regarding how this survey stacks up against JD Power here are some observations: 1. Skoda Superb is rated first in JD power survey with a score of 83%, followed by Skoda Yeti with a score of 82.8%. This shows these cars are indeed highly reliable cars. 2. Maybe in India, the cars are not that reliable because they are not designed with Indian conditions in mind, or the very poor state of after sales support from both the dealers and Skoda 3. I dont think the survey I did would even come close to JD power survey in terms of accuracy. They only consider cars that have sold 4000+ and cars that have at least 50 clean surveys, and cars owned from 18 to 36 months. In the survey results, I have there is no car with 50 clean surveys. Following is the list of sample size for various cars. Laura - 37 Fabia - 27 Rapid - 24 Superb - 11 Octavia 1st Gen - 8 Yeti - 7 Octavia 3rd Gen - 4 If I apply the 18 to 36 months filter to the surveys, the sample size comes becomes even small. | ||
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| ![]() @graaja: Thanks for putting up the results. Though the sample size is small, it is interesting to know the different opinion from people. All the best with your Octy. |
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| ![]() @graaja That was a very methodical and reasonable approach to decide your next car buy. And thanks for sharing the quantitative data. It would be interesting to compare the data for Skoda with similar data for other German cars - BMW/Merc/Audi/VW. Some questions that come to mind: 1) Do other German brands suffer from similar reliability issues in India? 2) People biting the BMW bullet also recommend and purchase BSI. Is it that BMW cars are more reliable than Skoda or BSI makes ownership experience much more trouble free? A follow up - would potential Skoda owners bit the bullet if Skoda had a BSI-like offering? 3) How to VW and Audi cars do in terms of reliability - given they share lineage. PS: I didnt vote in the survey since I am a 1-week old Skoda owner. |
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Actually, I do not have any idea about the reliability of the other German brands like Audi or BMW. Maybe other users can shed some light on this. | |
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| ![]() Am not sure if This is the right place to post this. However, Am curious to know if there are any known cases of Superb 1.8 TSi's which have had the mechatronics unit replace suffering a failure of the DSG a second time. I had a DSG failure on my 2010 superb at around 16000KM which was replaces. Have now done 45000KM and except for one instance when the lever would not move from the 'P' slot and I had no ignition, I have had no real issue with the DSG. I do get the much talked about shudder ocassionally when moving from 1st to 2nd. |
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| ![]() Honda has come out with 8DCT on Acura TLX that uses a DCT mated to a conventional torque converter. Wondering if it solves any of the the stop and go related failures and initial improved acceleration. |
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