Let me start off by saying that the review, as usual, is one of the most exhaustive & best ive read about the car. Excellent work Zappo (and whoever accompanied him for the review).
But on the same note, im giving this thread a rating of 4 & not 5. Not wanting to be a tough critique, but ive gotten used to the most minute of details being present in any tbhp review right from the start. In the same breath, let me also state that this might also be because i am a current Verna owner for the past 4 years & know the minutest of nuances of the car & perhaps am expecting too much (but i also know that our mods are more than capable of giving much more than expectations).
NOTE - It just struck me, as a suggestion, why not have a member who owns the current generation of the car (if its a new generation of the same car) tag along for reviews? We current owners can give you moderators excellent observations & also a fresh perspective for the formation of the review (like the stuff im mentioning below). Will post this in the suggestions thread as well.
Now, coming to the review itself, im strongly considering purchasing the 2011 Verna soon & hence
this detailed post of everything that i have observed through & through. This may help answer quite a few questions people may have & at the same time, raise a few that havent been asked or clarified.
Id suggest that this post may be clubbed along with/after the actual review to increase relevance & help people get all the info they need. If the car is purchased, i will certainly create a new thread along with an even more detailed comparison of both generations of the car. Also, this post may contain information from the review itself & also from previous posts before this one.
Before i begin, since this post has references to the new car & the older generation, i will refer to the new 2011 verna as the NV & the older gen as the OV.
New 2011 Verna = "NV"
Old gen Verna = "OV" Q&A (ALREADY ANSWERED) Quote:
How effective is the aircon? Does it have AC vents at the rear?
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Seems adequate enough, noisy at higher blower settings. No it does not
Personal Observation - The OV has a chiller of an aircon. Seems like newer Hyundai products seem to have a different one which isnt as good as the older ones. Case in point being the i20 aircon being not that effective (read - adequate) & im guessing the NV has the same unit. We do remember the niggling aircon issues the i20 had gone through just to get the aircon to the adequate level. Pity that the NV has not carried on the same OV unit.
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Does it have a transmission hump in the flooring of the rear seat?
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The hump is almost negligible.
Personal Observation - The OV also had a very slight hump but it was present nonetheless, but from the review pictures, the NV seems to have cut down on that very slight hump even more, almost to a flat floor like look.
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Does it have only one reversing lamp in the rear taillights? (Like the asymmetrical design at the rear of the new Ford Fiesta)
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No, it has the symmetrical twin reversing lamps (one in each taillight).
Personal Observation - Thank god they have retained this trait. Even the OV has the same & it provides much better visibility while reversing at night while also looking better than the asymmetrical look.
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Do the rear windows roll all the way down?
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No, they do not. They go three quarters of the way down.
Personal Observation - In the OV, it goes all the way down.
Due to softly sprung suspension, the car wallows at higher than triple digit speeds (in the range of above 120-130) and is not that confidence inspiring wrt steering feedback on curves & under hard cornering. Straight-line stability is excellent.
Personal Observation - This has been retained from the OV. Though this receives a lot of flak on bhp, i can vouch for the fact that its not all that bad as most people make it out to be. Yes, agreed that its not excellent at handling and is less inspiring at higher speeds, but let me tell you, its great at in-city speeds & on in-city roads. And further, straight-line stability is excellent & doesn't make you feel nervous even at higher than triple digit speeds. But yes, you do feel the need to slow down around curves due to the non confidence-inspiring setup.
Above being said, Hyundai knows (and i agree) that most customers wont be buying this car for performance driving. They will buy it for the all-rounder package it is. And even though im a petrolhead at heart, the car is driven spiritedly very rarely & is still fun when done so while offering excellent ride on my daily drives which i am very happy about.
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Are the driver side door switches backlit? (Power windows & OVRM adjust switches)
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No, they are not.
Personal Observation - The OV has partially backlit, i.e. the power window switches are whereas the OVRM switch are not. But the OVRM switch is very intuitive to use & lack of backlighting didn't pose any trouble.
On a different note, i noticed that the review mentions that the switches lacked good feel. When compared to the OV, the OV switches feel good & built well even if not excellent & solid.
Questions
[YET TO BE ADDRESSED]
The questions also contain the minute details which have not been covered in the review which i thought could have been (and in some bhp reviews, they are).
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What is that net in the boot?
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The boot net could have been covered as its hardly present in most cars & also its use could have been explained.
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What do the front seats look like?
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Would have loved a picture of the front seats as well. The support bit has been explained & a picture of the rear seats is posted in the review as well. These small things matter & if you notice in the new fiesta, the front seats are almost genuine bucket seats & these small things do get brownie points according to me.
Cannot be ascertained in the first picture of the interior post of the review.
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What is the ground clearance?
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Id suggest having a technical details post as part of the review. I know the engine & transmission tech specs are provided, but it would be excellent to have a separate tech spec sheet for other things like ground clearance, suspension details, wheelbase, etc. And even thought the tyre size is mentioned as part of a caption for a picture, that could be part of this tech spec sheet as well.
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What are the NVH levels like?
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The sound intrusion of the engine itself has been covered in the review but that is only a part of the overall NVH. Case in point being that the OV has particularly high tyre noise intrusion at higher speeds.
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How is the headlight & fog lamp performance?
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Very important & generally covered in most tbhp reviews. The OV seriously needed a bulb upgrade for the headlights & the foglamps are just decorative as they are functionally useless.
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There is turbo-lag below a certain rev range. But how about roll-on figures/in gear acceleration?
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The subjective part of this has been answered & it is mentioned that the mid range is "punchy" but how about actual test figures? 0-100 timings, roll-on timings, brake distances, etc? This particular suggestion is not just pointed at you Zappo, i would like to suggest that this become part of every BHP review. We are after all an enthusiast bunch
Will post this in the suggestion thread as well. Quote:
How many jets does the rectangular nozzle have?
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This cannot be seen in the pictures. The OV has 3 jets per nozzle which is something unique to it & also helps clean the windscreen very effectively.
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A very important question is that only the 1.6 Diesel was tested. The 1.6 petrol motor has been mentioned but not actually tested by tbhp reviewer. Will the 1.6 Petrol be tested by a tbhp reviewer anytime soon? And what about the 1.4 Petrol & Diesel???
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Eager to know about the 1.4 P & 1.4 D engines as well.
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How is the A pillar view during corners & turns?
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Very important from a safety perspective & generally a part of most reviews.
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Is the Auto Day/Night inner RVM standard across all variants and engine options or reserved only for the top end variants of the 1.6 models?
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OBSERVATIONS FROM MY END
- The Antenna is thin & long. Looks almost like a "shendi"
The OV has a stubby, short one. Do hope they give a shark fin option as mentioned by a fellow bhpian in the previous posts
- The hood section is raised over & above the windshield at the end & includes the windshield washer nozzles instead of having them on the hood. This would lead to better aerodynamics - lower drag co-efficient - better NVH levels. This can be easily noticed in the picture showing the rectangular nozzles. This particular design aspect has also been seen in the Fiat Linea if i remember correctly.
MISCELLANEOUS
- Absolutely love the design. The C like rear sounds good doesnt it?
- Auto Day/Night IRVM is great & a segment first as well i think.
- The sun visors are carried forward from the OV. Not a bad thing at all.
- The chrome strip at the rear, above the number plate, is a small design detail carried forward from the OV as well. Only difference being the OV chrome strip had the Hyundai logo embossed within it whereas the NV has it seperately.
- The faux wood seems to be carried over from the OV as well. Again, not a bad thing at all.
Id like to end the post by saying that though a fantastic review, Zappo, it could have been even better. The points could have been a little more visual & more small observations could have been made. One look at the Linea T-Jet Review & you will see what i mean. Further, i also think that since this is a newer generation of a particular car, research on the previous generation could be done & along with the comparo to the competition in the end, comparos to the older gen should be constantly shown within the review as & where relevant. Have stated certain points in the Misc section above. Will also give this suggestion in the suggestions thread.
In the end, i would like to say that by no means am i trying to criticize the review. Am just trying to give my suggestions so that next time they are even better. After all, a tbhp review is forever evolving & setting new benchmarks.
Once again, thank you for the wonderful review & kudos to all the hard work & effort that went into it. Hope that this post of mine contributes to it.
EDIT: Point to be noted that the Quotes are not actual quotes from other posts. They have been used in order to help distinguish the questions more effectively.