re: Review: 1st-gen Maruti Ertiga Quote:
Originally Posted by niranjanprabhu Amalji, thanks a ton for that absolutely awesome reply. Enlightened! |
I'll list down all cases here. For Engine Auto shutdown @ idle on Neutral - Driver side seatbelt should be fastened
- Driver side door should be closed
- Bonnet should be closed.
- Vehicle speed should be less than 3 kmph
- Engine rpm should be at idle speed
- AC shouldn't be put into Auto Mode
- Engine should have warmed up to operating temperature
- Battery voltage and strength should be above a threshold.
- Brake booster vacuum should be above a minimum threshold.
- No trouble codes related to SHVS system
- Vehicle shouldn't be on a slope
For engine automatic restart without clutch depress - If the vehicle starts to slide down a slope
- If brake vacuum is below the minimum threshold
- If AC need to turns ON to maintain the set temperature.
- If Battery charge below threshold
- If it's 3 minutes since auto stoppage
In addition to the above, there is a manual override button as well. Torque boost works the following conditions. - There should be a throttle input in the range specified
- Brakes shouldn't be depressed
- Battery is fully charged
- No headlights ON
Another interesting thing is that the vehicle restart when clutch is depressed is performed by the ISG ( Integrated Starter Generator ) and not the starter motor while the normal start is handled by the starter motor. Not sure about why it's done so though.
Courtesy - The director of Autoteam Maruti Service Zone, Kochi - Rajan Sir Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftdiesel Surprised you said that on the Polo because I took an extensive test drive of the Vento (bigger car) with the 1.5 TDI and it was one of the most lag free engines I've driven. Of course, the brute force of the 1.6 was slightly missed but nowhere laggy. Acceleration was linear and tractable. |
The first thing I did when I felt this was to check the comments on team-bhp. And I saw people said there is no lag. But, my friend - Ashok who was driving my Etios said that the Etios felt much quicker in the city. And it was infact the same feeling that I got. Only 2 reasons I could think of. - Turbo lag
- The pollution cheat device of the VW at work.
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Originally Posted by swiftdiesel Actually, not quite and hard acceleration is very important in the highway and the engine's eagerness at those speeds matter. My family and my cousin's family had to attend a wedding in Madurai, a distance of 480 kms from Chennai. We started together, me in my Ertiga and they in their Fortuner and within seconds the Fortuner disappeared on the highway and as much as I tried, I couldn't even spot it until our next pit stop. And at every ~200 kms, they had to wait at least 20-30 minutes for me to catch up! In fact, at lunch time, they finished their lunch and were leaving while we entered! |
It depends on the kind of gear shifts you do and the speed at which you plan to cruise at.
If your cruising speed is 140 kmph, these high value PS numbers doesn't matter. You can easily be on that speed all day on a lagless 68 PS engine. It's relative speed that saves you time, not acceleration. And any speed over 140 kmph, I don't consider it safe on Indian highways for consistent cruising. You can do short bursts though.
The fastest, I've done in the Kochi - Trivandrum highway is using a 1000 cc Maruti Suzuki Zen ( not mentioning the numbers here because I do not want to promote unhealthy competition ), not with the 90 PS Esteem or the 170 Nm torque Etios Diesel. So, it was just the driving skills and mood which limits me in getting good timings on Indian Highways, not the lack of PS numbers. Slot it in the right gears, reach a good cruising speed and you will clock good highway timings. PS doesn't matter at all. But, if you are doing a drag race, yes it matters. Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftdiesel Again, surprised. I've extensively driven my cousin's Mobilio in the city and the highway. While in the city it's lag free, the same cannot be said on the highway. Yes, it's par for the course but the i-DTEC is not eager to do 3 digit speeds on the highway and I always get the feeling that it'd rather do slower speeds better than high speed cruising. |
I haven't tried the Mobilio, but I've tried both the Amaze and City ( using the same engine ). Both of them are gems for fast driving . Mobilio, I don't think is a worthy 7 seater anyway ( not because of the engine though ) because its 3rd row seating is downright pathetic compared to the Ertiga's
Last edited by Zappo : 20th January 2016 at 16:21.
Reason: As requested by the OP
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