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15th April 2015, 15:22 | #61 |
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: One year & 14,500 kms update Dear Arindam I just happened to book the Zest Revotron XT. Will request to know the Fuel efficiency you are enjoying in your red beauty now that its probably done a few thousand kms. |
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: One year & 14,500 kms update Quote:
Yes, indeed the car should not be driven at high RMP for the first 1.8 K Kms that's the running in period for Zest, I crossed that before trying out those speeds. Quote:
Congrats on your booking. On a regular city drive with AC in ECO mode I get 13-14 Kmpl depending on traffic held ups and my mood. Well in case, I'm in a naughty mood I tend to use the sports mode and the mileage drops in that case. But to give you an idea below is a visual of data that I maintain. The 2 spikes in per filling mileage are due to small fillings done at Service Center its averaged out in the subsequent data points. The figures above are mostly for around 40% Highway drive (90% of that swiftly) and the rest is city drive, add to that 6 service center visits with loads of idling. About 60% is with AC the last couple of months. I have not had much chance to drive sedately on highways yet, but the car can achieve much higher mileage if driven at constant speeds. There is another picture which shows that below. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...d-dsc_0949.jpg I can give you another perspective my Xeta used to give me 14 KMPL w/o AC in city, this one gives me the same with AC. 6 Months completed Clocked 7500 Kms Zed going strong Well in the mean time Zed completed 6 months of ownership and 7.5K Kms.
Below is a list of all voice commands get used to it and enjoy the freedom, you hardly need to touch the buttons First Service on 31st Jan 2015 - Visit 3 My first 2 visits were for below reasons
I had the following issues still pending resolution from delivery of the car -
Dashboard Noise 4th Feb 2015 - Visit 4 Dashboard noise reported on 31st Jan was not resolved I realized it the next day I went to office. It was very much still there. I reported the issue to the service center and they sent a guy to my house on 4th Feb. This guy suggested me to drive while he could listen and locate the source of noise. I suggested to keep going towards the service center in case required. While approximately midway to the NH6 Salap service center he located the noise coming from the glove box area. The glove box was dismantled in the moving car. Above the glove box was housed the a controlling unit probably the one for EBD/ABS. The housing for that had screws loose causing the rattle. Once the source was located the guy requested me to go to the service center anyway so that we may check the other issues as well. All ended well the dashboard noise was no more and gone for good. The steering column noise was still not resolved, they checked again but was in vain. TML was still doing RCA for the issue. Steering Noise 21 Mar 2015 - Visit 5 RCA was completed and I got a call from the service center that the part has arrived. It took them about 3 hours to replace and hand over the car to me. The steering noise was no more. Drive shaft was replaced for the issue. The steering would rattle at ambling speeds on rough roads. Test drive went fine with the guys at service center I was happy. Zest Drive Out 22nd March 2015 This was a really good event that was arranged by Tata Motors. Enjoyed the entire day with family and fellow Zest owners. Some pictures below Steering Noise 24th Apr 2015 - Visit 6 I drove the car for a few days and noticed that there was a faint squeaky noise while turning the steering wheel anti clockwise. This was a new problem appeared to be a small niggle was certainly not too intruding but I was eager to get it resolved. Also saw the Mud in engine bay fitment was not perhaps done correctly, I could still see some mud. Confirmed the above with help from dear friend Prithwiraj (Tbhp handle - prithwirajthesaha) who is a co-Zest owner. In the mean time I got several calls from the service center inquiring how the vehicle was running, I told them about the issue and was requested to visit the service center. Along with that I had a small cosmetic issue where the plastic fitment on the bonnet where the windshield washers are located was slightly elevated on the right side. All issues were resolved, the steering now is super smooth, no noise and again I was elated. This time I was visiting the Rajarhat workshop. Mud in Engine bay issue - The kit was indeed fitted incorrectly, well the service center guy was not illogical since the screw holes aligned perfectly. I wish TML should have included a handout on how to fit this part. Also, noticed a lot of rust. The guy cleaned the part and applied anti-rust coating on it. Then fitted the part with a lot of diligence. What I liked most was the fact that TC motors arranged for the same mechanic who fitted the part last time at Salap, the guy is really a hardworking and diligent person. He came to Rajarhat just to get my job done. Now that rainy season is about to set in Srikant gave important lessons to guys at Rajarhat on the MIB issue fitment on Zest. The fitment was done real neatly. The Rubber coated Mud in engine bay fitment, rubber blocks yet to be fitted Zed dismantled for the Mud in engine bay fitting Steering Noise - It was just a matter of refitting some of the part along the steering column. I do not have any idea on the name of the exact parts though, whole thing was done in 5 mins. All in all was impressed. Especially, the steering is now super smooth, I realized the difference only after I drove the car after being handed over to me. The Rajarhat facility is new and really good. Last edited by arindam_xeta : 25th April 2015 at 21:05. | ||
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4th June 2015, 18:47 | #63 |
BHPian | re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: One year & 14,500 kms update @arindam_xeta It has been more than a month with no updates. How has the car been doing ? Overall, are you happy with the way the car has been performing ? My family is looking for a new car and I wanted to know about the owner's comments before asking them to take a look at Zest. Has the after sales experience improved ? I own a Vista myself and do not believe in the "TASS = nightmare" myth. But just want to know about it because any improvement in this regard is a bonus for the customer. |
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8th November 2015, 02:31 | #64 |
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: One year & 14,500 kms update Firstly my apologies for not being able to update the thread for a long time, but there was really nothing to update , except for fuel price nothing really changed between me and Zed, the bond only grew stronger. Well, today is the big birthday eve, of my beloved work horse and I made sure that I have time enough to do some justice to the service it provided for this one year. Over the last one year, I have had no major issues, period. The ones that initially existed, mostly loose fittings and a part defect were promptly taken care of. The car is now doing 14,500 Kms, with second service done. With Zed, we completed our most recent trip to the hills of North Bengal, and I was majorly impressed with the amount of power exhibition, will come back to this in a moment. The first 10K kms, I was pampering the car a bit too much which caused a less than perfect experience, which I finally got when we visited North Bengal. Shifting too soon as per my habit and hence perceiving a sluggish behavior. I have seen a lot of such complaints in different forums. My habit was more due to driving my petrol indica for 7 years. Zed was more comfortable in the mid-range and wanted me to shift a tad bit later, it took me pretty long to understand that and get used to it and at one point it was fairly disappointing, thankfully that's all gone. Some pictures of Zed So far I think this is the most VFM car one can buy. The drive-ability is very much customizeable, it exudes power, milage and balance between the two when you need it, makes you feel safe, the steering is a breeze (a little more feedback could have made it even better). The AC is really efficient, again climate control is very well designed and it is programmed to even change the blow directions as per parameters mostly, temperature difference between ambient temperature to maintain and outside temperature, crank cycle etc. Ex: When I start the car in the morning, and put the AC in AUTO mode, the AC blows air to the windshield, it does so for about 5 mins and then switches to full-front flow, again in the evening when the temperature starts falling it redirects the warm air to the feet for some time and then starts blowing it front, cool air. The fan speed is also regulated as per ambient and outside temperature difference. The pluses minuses below were composed when the car was about 8,000 Kms run in. I'm retaining it to share the entire experience as I felt it. Pluses
Minuses The fit and finish leaves much room for improvement compared to standards set by itself in certain areas, so in-consistency is there. I'm unsure if it has improved in the later batches, but its a disappointment since it could have positively improved the ownership experience and sales numbers a lot. Some specifics - I'll start with the most important aspect- I hope TML read this part and does some corrections to improve on this aspect. If there is something that can be done in current configuration I wish it's made available.
Well, I was composing this entire write up for sometime and the point on "Low RPM drivability of Revetron" was indeed something that was spoiling my experience with the car. Say till about 8K Kms I was finding it hard to live with the engine due to this issue with driveability. Then slowly I started changing above 1700 RPM. If you do that consistently you will never feel underpowered, infact the car will start feeling pretty light and powerful. This is in both ECO and CITY mode. Sports mode was never an issue anyway. If you see I let that frustration stay since I'll rather encourage TML to tune the engine so that both at customer side and OEM side such frustrations may be avoided in future. Well now it's all history after my last trip to North Bengal, we did Namchi, Kalingpong and Darjeeling. This was a trip to just drive Zed on hilly terrain and boy, it loved it so much as I did driving it. I did the second service after coming back from this trip. Once you take the road upto Kalingpong from NH31A the first 5 kms have real steep turns, but very well maintained turmac. Zed was really showing terrfic mannerism in handling and pickup was easy and surprisingly fast. I was so much at ease that whenever there was no traffic on the other side I could pass other cars with utter ease. These were local taxis in the form of boleros, altos, Wagon R, Dezires, Omnis and the likes, so they were not slow by any means. I could also garner a lot of respect from them as most of them were very polite to lend me that extra space to make the overtaking move easy. Zest was never lacking in power. We also experienced similar torquey response on Peshok road, while going from Kalingpong to Darjeeling, After crossing Teesta Bazar the next 10 kilometers till Lamahatta is very steep, with hair pin narrow turns. Zest was upto to the task and felt adequetly quick and nippy. I really felt confident in the entire trip. The hilly terrain was hardly 200 kms but the rest of the drive was also through very challenging roads conditions of Bihar. The car came back without rattles. Second service was right after this trip and was just a routine oil, filter change, tyre rotation and that's it. Verdict after 1 year of ownership Odo trickled past 14,500 KMs, GOLD AMC, Extended Warranty, Service cost so far Rs 220. Verdict-Pluses
Verdict Minuses Except for point 1 above "Low RPM drivability of Revetron" the rest stays as it is. These points are mainly generic and wont take a year to discover Tata Service Pre Conditions - I'm not comparing with any other car manufacturer, since I really do not have any such benchmark. So, it's only TML benchmark for me for last 8 years. My personal experience at service has been good so far and things are improving. I'm trying to identify points where it may be improved further or has not yet improved much from before. The points below are w.r.t service received at TC Motors Rajarhat Workshop. I have not had to go to any other service centres yet.
Diwali gift for customer is a nice gesture and I thank TC Motors Rajarhat and the entire TML dealer group for the same. I think the dealers will play a very vital role in future as more technically improved cars makes it way in the market, like Hexa . So TML needs to ensure they are in sync with the pulse of the delear and get into service credit type contracts where you get paid fully if you deliver excellence. Some more pictures of my buddy Zed and very Happy Maiden Birthday to him, he came home exactly 1 year ago this day and I'm proud of him! Near Teesta Bazaar @ Lamahatta, after taking the steep Peshok Road. Another shot @ Lamahatta Last edited by arindam_xeta : 8th November 2015 at 02:36. |
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8th November 2015, 03:06 | #65 |
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: 1.5 years & 23,500 kms update
Could you explain what's the "mileage per filling" parameter (blue line)? Howz your car holding up? I believe no news is good news! Quite happy to see a very (mechanically) stable product from TATA. I don't mind some initial niggles as some of the established brands too have had it. It matters whether the company rectifies it at the right time and the right way. |
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: 1.5 years & 23,500 kms update
Thanks for the detailed updates, and I concur with your views on the performance of the vehicle. I have found that staying in the 1500-2500rpm range not only ensures that the car performs well, but also returns the best mileage. Contrary to expectations, shifting up earlier actually increases fuel consumption. My car is almost six months newer than yours, and I have never experienced any issues with the car itself. Service as you have mentioned still leaves something wanting, but because the car itself is sound these are mostly peripheral issues of not cleaning the interiors/exteriors, smudgy interiors and the like. The car returns around 12kmpl on hilly roads that are undivided, and generally have a good amount of traffic including a lot of buses. However, all of those caveats apart, the car is unlikely to return anywhere near the claimed milage even in the plains unless driven in top gear at 55kmph steadily for 10kms Sad, because that's the most important aspect for most people including my parents who are actually using the car with a driver who is not really concerned about mileage in the first place. |
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: 1.5 years & 23,500 kms update Thank you, Arindam_xeta. Your ownership experience in this thread was very useful. I bought Zest Revotron XMS in Feb-2016. So far, I have driven 550kms and its been a good experience so far with zero problems/niggles. Your detailed thread has been very helpful indeed - particularly the details on RPM range for upshifting gears. |
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: 1.5 years & 23,500 kms update Quote:
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: 1.5 years & 23,500 kms update My Zed is trickled over 23,500 kms now, 9K+ kms post my last update. It's gone past 1.5 years of ownership. Longish highway trips done after my last update with approx distances-
So a total of 4700 odd kms on the highway, hence about 50-50 highway and city runs of the 9K kms. No major long trips yet but Zest has proved to be a pretty stable vehicle so far. Let me detail the issues I faced. Till the Zuluk trip I did visit the service centre for a few niggles (one or two door noise issues, a noise from driver seat and mostly those), checkups and invites from the showroom and or Tata Motors for customer meets and feedbacks. When I came back from Zuluk, I went for a regular check up and had to update the Harman system to a new firmware version. The car was well serviced and returned back the same day, nothing really to complain about, Harman system had the new firmware version. I came home satisfied. A couple of shots from the Darjeeling trip - these were taken at Temi Aah! those lovely cool looking peaks! But, summer had already set in and outdoors were really hot then. Hence wanted to check the outside temperature in the driver information system (DIS), to my amazement I could not find that mode, all other modes were present (ODO, <Temp>, Distance to Empty, Trip A, Trip B) only the temp mode was gone. I called the service centre the very next day and was assured a resolution. The technician informed me later in the day that the cluster needs a replacement. They did not have the part and hence no other option but to wait. The entire episode of this issue was being updated in the Zest Owner's Whatsapp group, which has TML officials as members. This is a nice initiative from TML to monitor all issues and feedbacks. The part was located in some other service center in south Kolkata, but the next day was a election day in south Kolkata. However, to my amazement I received a confirmation from one of the TML officials Susar, that they are trying to source the part at the earliest and hopefully the car will be delivered the next day. The car indeed was delivered the next day. I checked that Zed was fitted with the upgraded instrument cluster model, which has colored icons for the drive modes (ECO, CITY, SPORTS) in the cluster. The earlier cluster showed the drive modes in the white segmented display beside the shift indicator. Also, with mode change there is a beep now, unlike before. I took delivery and came home, the car was serviced to perfection no fluid changes done. Wiper blade replaced in AMC by service adviser, it was leaving water streaks during their checks, all good. While on my way to office the next day I found that the rear demister stopped working. Both the button on the front panel and the touchscreen button were not responsive. Called the service center right away and took the car to them. Even they looked a little shocked and that got me to panic a bit, I started thinking, will they be able to figure out now what exactly has gone bad? Received a call from the service center that the Body Control Module (BCM) went bad. Its an ECU that controls all the lights, sensors and electronic buttons. The same was replaced and the car was returned to me the next day after check ups. Since then all is good, I had no other mechanical problems. A few snaps from the Zuluk Trip Over the top snap by dear brother Samba (Teambhp handle) - old silk route Silk route view on Zed's ORVM Another snap at Gnathang Valley My observations so far!
Zed is a very dear member of the family now and its going damn strong so far, I'm enjoying every drive with it, so far worry free! Since the service team has been spot on and very responsible. This last one goes out to the service team Zed at Gnathang Valley |
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: 1.5 years & 23,500 kms update That's a really nice thread and I must say you are pretty lucky to go on long highway drives in your Zest. It's really great to drive on the highways, I have had done a couple of highway runs myself. I have a 9 Month old XT QDJ with around 24k on the ODO. The car hasn't given any majour trouble till now and I am pretty impressed by the car. I wanted to know about the update for the Harman Kardon system you have written about in your last post, is it a major update? Any changes in performance/features after the update? Thanks. |
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: 1.5 years & 23,500 kms update Quote:
This thread is becoming the go-to thread for anyone considering a Zest Revotron (specifically, and Zests in general), so my sincere thanks for keeping the thread alive. Quote:
The update most likely will not apply to you because your car is fairly new. The initial lot of Zests didn't support navigation via smartphone integration, and this was added after the Bolt was launched. Arindam please correct me if there were any other new features/fixes that we should expect with the update. | ||
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: 1.5 years & 23,500 kms update Quote:
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I did face a few issues lately, but the support and service has been really been good, I'll sum up those very soon. As we know by now, the navigation feature will not be supported on the older models due to hardware limitations, mostly the RAM, it has been ruled out by TML. This is a bit of a let down to early customers, the system change coming in within 6 months of the launch. Its not a ongoing development since, after that navigation feature no significant improvements were made, this should have been rolled out to all customers, either from the launch itself or an incremental upgrade there after. | ||
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: 1.5 years & 23,500 kms update my zest (xms) has some issues recently while traveling to Sangla valley , I faced 2 issues: 1. 2 gear felt very weak surprisingly opposite to what it feels like in plains. I didnt have this issue in last year trip to manali. 2. while taking U bends on left side suspension make a noise if any big pothole comes. No sure , will go to service center and share feedback very soon. SO far my experience was good but recently. |
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| re: Zed, my Red Tata Zest. EDIT: 1.5 years & 23,500 kms update Quote:
I did not understand the first issue as to what you meant by "2 gear felt weak". Did you mean that you were not getting enough pickup on 2nd gear? What mode were you driving in? For the second issue, all I can say is that due to ABS it does make a sound when you land in a pot hole and you are braking, not other wise. Also, this happens at higher speeds. But I'm not sure if its same as what you experienced. Do get you car checked and leave us a feedback on how its doing | |
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