[naveen.raju]

Originally Posted by motorworks

@deehunk, thanks!

Hi Creta owners,

Should I be worried about the braking and ABS issues listed earlier in this thread? I am on the verge of finalising a 2017 manufactured Creta 1.4 D S+.

Worried about 2 things. One the Brake failure issues reported here and second the prospect of an updated Creta being launched in the near 2-3 months. I can probably make it wait till June 2018 for an updated Creta, but there is no news whether an updated Creta is being launched?

My biggest fear is if Hyundai discontinued the 1.4 D completely and refreshes he existing models with some feature updates!

Technically, it isn't an issue/failure. Brakes feel inadequate for a vehicle of this size. Having said, it does perform pretty well in city speeds. Take it over triple digit speeds, the braking feels a bit rubbery and you wish it stopped more confidently.

Personally speaking, I would close my eyes and grab the chance to buy the present gen Creta (I prefer this over the facelift model). Of course, you might get to enjoy new features but again that should make it's way to the top end models and I can think of cruise control, addition of few missing information in the MID (DTE, Average mileage etc) and maybe auto headlamps/wiper.

If you want to buy one immediately, take it out for a long TD.

[motorworks]

@ Naveen.raju, thanks for your feedback! Surely provides some clarity!

Lastly, do you guys think the 2.5 L difference between E+'plus diesel and S+ Diesel is justified? I mean all you get extra is a Touch screen HU, Alloys and Rear defogger and roofrails.

I can easily get a Apple car play for HU and Momo Alloys for less than 60K!

The only bit bothering me is the defogger! That is a big sore point and one of the reasons I am considering the S+, but not convinced of the 2.5 L extra is worth it!

[dextor]

Originally Posted by motorworks

The only bit bothering me is the defogger! That is a big sore point and one of the reasons I am considering the S+, but not convinced of the 2.5 L extra is worth it!

If you plan to keep the car for very long duration, go with top model but if you would change in few years, than E+ is also fine.
I don't see need of defogger with AC on.

[SpoiledBratt]

Originally Posted by motorworks

I am in a dilemma over buying a Creta 1.4 D s+ or a SX 1.6 Verna Diesel. Sold my 6 year old Rapid TDI last week, so the Verna is not an upgrade but a swap between segments. I loved the torque and the power delivery plus all the goodies in the Verna SX Diesel, but my family feels that I switch to the Creta since it will at least offer a change of body type.

The Creta 1.4 D S + is at least 1 lakh more than the above Verna SX, so it is a stretch for sure.but what I am apprehensive is the power delivery in the 1.4 D and also highway manners and high speed stability plus sharp braking. Would you guys say that the Creta 1.4 D has to be driven sedately?

I am in the similar situation except that I am considering different variants. I am confused between Verna Diesel AT SX and Creta Diesel AT S+. Both are 1.6 but Verna is a good 1 Lacs cheaper. Though I am inclined towards SUVish looks does it make sense to pay an extra lac for SUVish body type and when you know that you are missing out on lot of features. All you are missing on Creta will be Automatic Climate Control, Auto fold ORVMs, 17" Diamond cut alloys (S+ variant comes with 16" alloys) and few more features.

Originally Posted by motorworks

@ Naveen.raju, thanks for your feedback! Surely provides some clarity!

Lastly, do you guys think the 2.5 L difference between E+'plus diesel and S+ Diesel is justified? I mean all you get extra is a Touch screen HU, Alloys and Rear defogger and roofrails.

I can easily get a Apple car play for HU and Momo Alloys for less than 60K!

The only bit bothering me is the defogger! That is a big sore point and one of the reasons I am considering the S+, but not convinced of the 2.5 L extra is worth it!

I wanted to understand from you on why Ecosport Titanium Diesel is not under your consideration? ES Titanium diesel is around the same price band as Creta E+ diesel and more engaging to drive. Is it merely because of the space and under 4 meter?

[motorworks]

Originally Posted by SpoiledBratt

I am in the similar situation except that I am considering different variants. I am confused between Verna Diesel AT SX and Creta Diesel AT S+. Both are 1.6 but Verna is a good 1 Lacs cheaper. Though I am inclined towards SUVish looks does it make sense to pay an extra lac for SUVish body type and when you know that you are missing out on lot of features. All you are missing on Creta will be Automatic Climate Control, Auto fold ORVMs, 17" Diamond cut alloys (S+ variant comes with 16" alloys) and few more features.







I wanted to understand from you on why Ecosport Titanium Diesel is not under your consideration? ES Titanium diesel is around the same price band as Creta E+ diesel and more engaging to drive. Is it merely because of the space and under 4 meter?

I did a TD of the ecosport and the Nexon, and although they are good in their own ways, they do not even feel like the same segment as the Rapid. I am somehow unable to come to terms with these under 4M SUVs. They do not look cohesive when viewed from the side.

And yes space is limited for sure. Even If i cannot upgrade from the C segment, I wanted to ensure that i stay with a car that is at par with the Rapid.

[naveen.raju]

Originally Posted by motorworks

The only bit bothering me is the defogger! That is a big sore point and one of the reasons I am considering the S+, but not convinced of the 2.5 L extra is worth it!

1) HU - You can get really good aftermarket HU's nowadays. Moreover, OE HU would mean it would look plush and the dash would look clean. And Gmaps are better than OE maps anyday.

2) Alloys - Again, you have awesome aftermarket collections.

I find rear wiper more useful than the defogger. So that shouldn't be a deal breaker.

[lurker]

Anybody know how to change engine oil in creta diesel? Is the oil drain plug visible or do one have to remove panel to access it ? One of my friends is complaining that even after first service ASS oil change the oil is black in colour. I told him it is like that in all EGR diesels, but he wants to change it as DIY

[Dieseldrifter]

Originally Posted by lurker

Anybody know how to change engine oil in creta diesel? Is the oil drain plug visible or do one have to remove panel to access it ? One of my friends is complaining that even after first service ASS oil change the oil is black in colour. I told him it is like that in all EGR diesels, but he wants to change it as DIY

The drain plug is very much visible you can pour the appropriate grade of engine oil, but i doubt this type of DIY without changing the engine oil filter.
As, once i performed DIY of engine oil change without changing the engine oil filter, within two days the color of new engine oil became same as the old one.
So, kindly change your engine oil filter as well.

[lurker]

oil filter & air filter for elantra & verna etc are accessible from bonnet so there is no confusion regarding that. The question here is whether the ASS changed the oil or not.

[motorworks]

Originally Posted by naveen.raju

1) HU - You can get really good aftermarket HU's nowadays. Moreover, OE HU would mean it would look plush and the dash would look clean. And Gmaps are better than OE maps anyday.

2) Alloys - Again, you have awesome aftermarket collections.

I find rear wiper more useful than the defogger. So that shouldn't be a deal breaker.

Actually there is no rear wiper even in S+! This variant has only defogger! And I checked with a couple of places on retrofitting defogger, does not look like it is an easy task and I do not want to risk electrical malfunction in the car at a later stage:

I also came across a 1.6 SX Diesel thru another dealer and the price is just 30k more than the 1.4 D S+. Although the SX variant misses out on 7 inch navigation and audio video HU. But the SX variant gets a lot of other features such as ACC etc, so it is a better deal especially if you consider the bigger engine.

Hoping to finalise tomorrow or the day after, let us see what happens!

[naveen.raju]

Originally Posted by lurker

Anybody know how to change engine oil in creta diesel?

Here's a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIAsA5jNkj4&t

Source - Youtube

Originally Posted by motorworks

And I checked with a couple of places on retrofitting defogger, does not look like it is an easy task and I do not want to risk electrical malfunction in the car at a later stage:

I also came across a 1.6 SX Diesel thru another dealer and the price is just 30k more than the 1.4 D S+. Although the SX variant misses out on 7 inch navigation and audio video HU. But the SX variant gets a lot of other features such as ACC etc, so it is a better deal especially if you consider the bigger engine.

Nah. Retrofitment will be one big and complicated task. So you will be getting the 5" HU? Anyhow, 7" looks good but that's only it. Like I said, for navigation Gmap is anyday better and as for video, you are never going to use it. I just used it once to write my review here and that's it .

Keep us posted.

[lurker]

Originally Posted by naveen.raju

Here's a video:
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that's exactly what I wanted to know, there is indeed an access panel with some 4-5 bolts and 7 odd pins to contend with to make the process more tedious. thanks a bunch naveen.

[aviraj]

Hyundai did not announce the Creta facelift in the Auto Expo. Any idea about it?

[motorworks]

Folks, if I were to get the SX 1.6 Diesel, it gets a 5 inch Audio System which does not support apple car play. Is there anyway we can get Apple car play activated in this system?

Else can we change only the HU to support Apple car play and rear view camera?

[m8002?]

Originally Posted by motorworks

Else can we change only the HU to support Apple car play and rear view camera?

The dealer itself should help you with this. Get a good HU from a different brand that supports the features you want.

I upgraded mine to a 6 inch Blaupunkt ( with usb, aux, sdcard, touchscreen and rear camera ) at the dealer itself and left the speakers as is. I am not an audiophile so that setup was good enough.