[Leoshashi]

What happens if SHVS equipped car gets flooded and its auxiliary battery conks off:


This case came to a MASS and the owner chose not to replace the battery. When disconnected, car worked like a normal car, without the SHVS functions. So no sweat when anything bad happens. Just bottom end torque feels a lot weaker.

Regards,
Shashi

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by Leoshashi

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This case came to a MASS and the owner chose not to replace the battery. When disconnected, car worked like a normal car, without the SHVS functions. So no sweat when anything bad happens. Just bottom end torque feels a lot weaker.

I think most owners will end up doing this when something happens to the Lithium battery since its difficult to convince anyone of a 50k rupee battery that hardly would make a difference to the average owner when it comes to the mileage or performance. And it would also be better for the owner to also remove the battery from the car if it has just been disconnected since that is a fire hazard after being flooded and left unused.

[Leoshashi]

Originally Posted by audioholic

I think most owners will end up doing this when something happens to the Lithium battery since its difficult to convince anyone of a 50k rupee battery that hardly would make a difference to the average owner when it comes to the mileage or performance.

True

And it would also be better for the owner to also remove the battery from the car if it has just been disconnected since that is a fire hazard after being flooded and left unused.

Yes it has been removed and the terminals have been insulated.

Regards,
Shashi

[crdi]

Originally Posted by Leoshashi

had planned to ensure the opening faces downwards, but the Hellas were a tight fit. Hence opening is facing sideward. But since the location is well sealed from all directions, possibility of water ingress is low.

If you inter-change the left & right ones, maybe you could position the openings downwards or facing each other.

[Leoshashi]

Originally Posted by crdi

If you inter-change the left & right ones, maybe you could position the openings downwards or facing each other.

I've chosen the location as per the original installation of High and low pitch horns. Sound is awesome as of now.

I've planned something, have asked my mechanic to get me few OEM mounts of Maruti horns of a decided length. Have something in mind. That should hopefully fix the issue.

Regards,
Shashi

[Big Smoke]

Originally Posted by Leoshashi

Hellas:
Replaced:

Hi Shahsi!

Please show how you fixed the stock wires to the horn. As far as I know, the Hella horns don't come with couplers, while the stock wire for horns has couplers. How did you deal with this problem?

Thanks.

[Leoshashi]

Originally Posted by Big Smoke

Hi Shahsi!

Please show how you fixed the stock wires to the horn. As far as I know, the Hella horns don't come with couplers, while the stock wire for horns has couplers. How did you deal with this problem?

Thanks.

Hella horns get the same spade type connector which stock horn had, so there was absolutely no need of any modification in between. It was plug and play.



Regards,
Shashi

[viren83]

Originally Posted by Leoshashi

The Glaco coating is working great, here is a video when car is stationary

Hi Shashi, this looks an absolute must to me, I feel this helps guys like me who do not prefer driving in rains. This should also help in less wiper noise as the wiper motor has to work less here.

Can this be applied to the ORVM's?
Is there any issue we might face from the cops?

[Leoshashi]

Originally Posted by viren83

Hi Shashi, this looks an absolute must to me, I feel this helps guys like me who do not prefer driving in rains. This should also help in less wiper noise as the wiper motor has to work less here.

Can this be applied to the ORVM's?
Is there any issue we might face from the cops?

Some points regarding Glaco:

1. Can be applied on any glass surface. I have it on all my windows and I get crystal clear view all around.

2. Application is a bit tricky since its easy to go wrong. In simple words application is: Apply completely and uniformly on glass, let it dry for 10 minutes, meanwhile keep a clean damp cloth ready, wipe it clean to remove the residue and simultaneously clean with a dry cloth to reveal clear vision. Any kind of haziness will result in issues later. I'm mentioning this since I have come across few people who attempted it and failed, and then had wiper jumping/noise/streaking issues. That can be cured only with multiple wipes of IPA. Anyways nothing to be scared of, and if the instructions are followed religiously, good result is guaranteed. I have it on all my cars and have never faced issue which some face.

3. No issue with Cops as it's entirely transparent coating.

Regards,
Shashi

[ashis89]

The horn is much needed upgrade on all Maruti cars!

Originally Posted by Leoshashi

PS: The Glaco coating is working great, here is a video when car is stationary:

Nice job done by the coating. I get a similar hydrophobic effect with the Turtle Hybrid ceramic spray. Check out this small clip recorded few days ago.

https://youtu.be/UkASeb4vaAM

It is easy to apply - spray, wipe and then buff. Stays for couple of months though reapplying after a month is better.

[viXit]

Originally Posted by Leoshashi

I first tried Crysta's horn set since it's too irritating and gets the attention immediately. However DBHPian Parag convinced me that Hella Chrome trumpets should do the job even better and that I should try it. Placed an order on Amazon yesterday and was delivered today.

Hi Shashi,

I have been looking for a good pair of horns to change out our 2016 Honda City's horns. They're stupid meek. I had noticed that most hella kits come with a relay, is this because stock wiring cannot handle the power requirements of the aftermarket horns??

What are the things I should consider before choosing something?
Could you please help me with this.

[Leoshashi]

Originally Posted by viXit

Hi Shashi,

I have been looking for a good pair of horns to change out our 2016 Honda City's horns. They're stupid meek. I had noticed that most hella kits come with a relay, is this because stock wiring cannot handle the power requirements of the aftermarket horns??

What are the things I should consider before choosing something?
Could you please help me with this.

BHPian SwapnilAlto has 2019 City and he has these same horns without any relay. Your car should take it too without any issue.

Regards,
Shashi

[AMG Power]

Originally Posted by Leoshashi

Upgraded stock horns:

As it’s not OE, check the ampere rating of the new horn and the old one. The new horn’s ampere rating should be equal to or less than the old / OE horn.

IIRC, Maruti’s horns have a 3 amp rating for each horn so you can fix upto 3 amps or less.

If your new horn’s amp rating is more than 3 amps you would need a relay so that the horns do not draw more current than the OE horns as it could otherwise effect / damage other electrical / electronic components / sensors of your car.

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by AMG Power

As it’s not OE, check the ampere rating of the new horn and the old one. The new horn’s ampere rating should be equal to or less than the old / OE horn.

IIRC, Maruti’s horns have a 3 amp rating for each horn so you can fix upto 3 amps or less.

I thought car horns were rated at 5-6A and 3A horns were two wheeler horns. At least thats how it has been in my cars. There is a relay for the horn which is rated at 15A in my Celerio and 20A in the SX4 to suffice the total current of 12A. Hence that should be covered. Not sure if the 3A horn is a recent development.

[Leoshashi]

Originally Posted by Leoshashi

I had planned to ensure the opening faces downwards, but the Hellas were a tight fit. Hence opening is facing sideward. But since the location is well sealed from all directions, possibility of water ingress is low.

Originally Posted by crdi

If you inter-change the left & right ones, maybe you could position the openings downwards or facing each other.

Originally Posted by Leoshashi

I've planned something, have asked my mechanic to get me few OEM mounts of Maruti horns of a decided length. Have something in mind. That should hopefully fix the issue.

Horns perfected!: Revisited the horn and had a close look at the mounts. Issues I had:

1. The mount strips provided by Hella is downright crappy and flimsy. Also no rubber insert like OEM horn, so was susceptible to vibrations.

2. Wanted to make the opening face downwards, very important with these horns. Also didn't want to cut any plastic.

I took a close look at the mount strip of stock horn. It uses a rubber insert to arrest vibes. But unfortunately that end won't fit Hella's since the screw length is too small. So mounted in a way that the rubber part goes downwards and touches body.

Since mount of OE Horn was longer, it also raised the horn a bit, allowing it to face downwards. Also interchanged the position of horns, so they sat even more comfortably.

Hella trumpets with OE mounts, notice the rubber insulator at the other end:

This is how the mount sat:

Since the rubber insert made the mount strip thicker, the stock bolt became a bit short. So raided my collection of nuts and bolts and out came a slightly longer 12mm bolt with corresponding nut, which also had integrated washer.

Now the horn sat firmly, with enough clearance, facing downwards and I had fixed every shortcoming.

The outgoing OE horns with flimsy Hella mounts:

Originally Posted by audioholic

I thought car horns were rated at 5-6A and 3A horns were two wheeler horns. At least thats how it has been in my cars. There is a relay for the horn which is rated at 15A in my Celerio and 20A in the SX4 to suffice the total current of 12A. Hence that should be covered. Not sure if the 3A horn is a recent development.

+1. The fuse rating is 15Amps for horn IIRC, so I should be safe since the Hellas are rated at 5Amps each.

Regards,
Shashi