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Old 25th May 2021, 10:10   #16
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Re: The Grey Stallion | BS6 4th-Gen Honda City SV-MT Review

Congrats on the great choice and welcome to the club!

I was surprised by the mention of uncomfortable middle seat. While visually even mine has a higher looking seat in the middle but once you sit, you can't feel any difference, even for the backrest.

Also rear boot misalignments maybe a case of not well adjusted rubber boots, those grommety thingies (one set higher than other). Please check

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The cruise control can be activated at speeds above 40kmph. It will be a very useful feature in expressway runs. Speed can be decreased or increased using the +/- buttons. Cruise control will get disengaged on applying brakes or accelerator.
Small correction : Cruise control won't deactivate if you use accelerator. It'll accelerate further but once you let go of it, it'll come back and hold the set speed. Atleast that's how it works on my City CVT.
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Old 25th May 2021, 10:43   #17
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Re: The Grey Stallion | BS6 4th-Gen Honda City SV-MT Review

Nice detailed writeup. Congratulations on picking up one of the best cars in the segment! I have the very same car in the very same colour, in the V variant though. Picked mine up in 2019 and have covered around 16000 kms, all of which have been a pure joy. The iVtec revs like an absolute peach and coupled with the snappy gearshift, the car is a blast to drive. Wishing you many happy miles with it. Creamy engine, solid mechanicals and easy on the pocket - thats Japanese peace of mind right there for you. Not to mention superb comfort for both the driver as well as the passengers over long haul drives. The City is one car where even rear sear passengers are cocooned in comfort. One just needs to be a little careful over broken roads, and as long as you are not speeding over them, the car handles them like a champ. It has handled Bangalore's flooded monsoon roads with aplomb over the last two years.

Incidentally, the other car in my garage is an Ecosport (your other close competitor). Together, they make a formidable duo

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Old 25th May 2021, 12:41   #18
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Congratulations on your new car! The City is indeed a decision that one takes with the brain, but doesn't regret. Back in 2015, we were in a similar situation- Vento TSI vs City V MT. Both my brother and I enjoyed the Vento, but since the car was for our parents (Dad was highly skeptical about VW service and DSG reliability), we decided to go with the City. The car hasn't disappointed us so far, and in February this year, we got the tires upgraded to 195/60 R15, which has improved the ride comfort and highway manners!

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The clutch+gearshift is very smooth and tempts us to keep riding through the gears. However shifting to 2nd gear from the higher gears feels notchy occasio nally. My brother felt that grunt in 3rd gear is sub optimal. For overtakes, the 2nd or 4th gear performs better. Experienced Bhpians are requested to chip in.
In the many runs that we've made between Kochi/Thrissur to Trivandrum, I find that the 3rd is the best to overtake on the highways in Kerala. I usually drop from 5th to third to "prepare" the car and then it's as simple as floor it-overtake-up-shift to 5th.

While ground clearance wasn't a problem for the 4 years we spent outside Kerala, (including in Bangalore, where the car received it's first under-body hit) once my parents relocated to Thrissur this year, the low ground clearance suddenly became a problem (scraped the under-body of the car thrice in 2 months, vs 2 times in the last 6 years) . I'd blame the quality of the roads in our state though, instead of the ground clearance It's best to be extra cautious, slow down the car to a crawl and then use the "diagonal" approach to tackle some speed-breakers and unavoidable potholes.
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Old 25th May 2021, 13:23   #19
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Just want to know how is the AC cooling of your Honda City. I also have 4th Gen 2018 model - V.

I am not happy with the Air conditioning of the car fit Delhi Heat. Maybe Kerala with Humid climate AC might be better.

Can you let me know the minimum Grill temperature attained in your city .

I have shown my car to multiple ASS, but it’s AC in relatively inferior to 3rd Gen City and other cars I own.
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Old 25th May 2021, 14:26   #20
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Since you are installing 3d mats and have the carpet mats (OEM) what additional floor mats you want to check?
I meant the laminated type of mats that covers the whole floor of the car. It's easier to clean , especially in the rainy season where we accidentally bring in mud into the car.

Planning to use carpet mats in dry season and 3d mats during the monsoons.



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saw your car being loaded on the flatbed at Vision Honda in Kochi. I checked with them what the story was and they told it was sold in Trivandrum. Small world.
Indeed it's a very small world. And a very pleasant coincidence

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I was surprised by the mention of uncomfortable middle seat. While visually even mine has a higher looking seat in the middle but once you sit, you can't feel any difference, even for the backrest.
The backrest is not the issue. It's the slightly raised middle portion that seems to be the problem for the 5th passenger when compared to slightly flatter benches provided in other models of Honda like the Amaze and Jazz. However the same raised middle portion enhances comfort when there are only 2 seated at the rear

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Also rear boot misalignments maybe a case of not well adjusted rubber boots, those grommety thingies (one set higher than other). Please check
Will get the ASS to check during the upcoming service
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My Dad owns the 2nd gen Honda City(60k on Odo) and 13 years old now.
I was fortunate enough to drive to Punjab from Bangalore and hence had a chance to drive my Creta petrol and Honda city side by side and boy the Ivtec is like leagues apart.
I don't think there is any competition between the iVTEC and any other NA petrol engine it's so good.
Wishing you happy miles ahead. The only concern we had with our honda was the low ground clearance which had kissed every bumper in the city.
I guess the new one has a better GC but still do take some precautionary measures like underbody coating or maybe an underbody plastic cladding to prevent that from happening.
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I meant the laminated type of mats that covers the whole floor of the car. It's easier to clean , especially in the rainy season where we accidentally bring in mud into the car.
Then it makes sense. Given the kind of rains you get, the plastic mats makes absolute sense.
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The effort that goes into writing such amazing reviews is worthy. I too have a soft spot for the city, so many CSUV's around these days that a shiny new sedan looks great.
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Congratulations! An excellent choice indeed. I had the 3rd generation City for 10 years. I still miss it from time to time.
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The cruise control can be activated at speeds above 40kmph. It will be a very useful feature in expressway runs. Speed can be decreased or increased using the +/- buttons. Cruise control will get disengaged on applying brakes or accelerator. ..................
Does the cruise control deactivate in case we press the accelerator pedal? Can you please confirm.

The model I owned (Ford Mondeo - UK), when we accelerate, the car doesn't disengage the cruise control. It was very helpful for doing the motorway overtakes. Once the accelerator pedal is released, the car will decelerate and come back to the set speed and continue with cruise control. I was expecting a similar one in Honda.
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TEST DRIVE EXPLOITS

Tata Nexon

Pros:

• Good road view and highest GC in the segment
• 5* safety rating in my list of shortlisted cars
• AC was powerful and cooled cabin very quickly

Cons:

• Slotting into 3rd gear is slightly problematic
• Noisy Engine

Power and handling was good. Deliberately stopped vehicle at a sharp incline and managed to ascend it without straining the engine (Altroz NA petrol had trouble in this department). Unfortunately 3rd gear had slotting issues. The issue was felt acutely by wife. The problem was noted in TBhp reviews also. Since 3rd gear is inevitable in city commutes, this may become a deal breaker. Also she was not happy with the engine noise though NVH inside cabin was controlled.

Since I was very much looking forward to a Nexon in Foliage Green, I convinced my wife to give Nexon one more chance as TD vehicles are abused to hell and back. Spoke with Derik Motors again and they agreed to provide me with a different vehicle. So went for TD in a new car the next week. 2nd to 3rd gear slotting issue was minimal in the new car. But reverse gear issue seems to exist. Clutch requires additional pumping and gear to be engaged twice. At times the rear view camera gets engaged, but not the gear. Also NVH was higher compared to the other models we had test driven, and wife vetoed it. (You can drive this car yourself was the specific ultimatum)
In hindsight I should have expected the Veto as the Home Minister was not very impressed with the polarizing looks of the Nexon from the beginning itself, and still regards TATA as a CV maker.
Congrats on the new car!!!

Not to throw a damp towel on your new car joy, but I have a question for you.

Since your list also contains the Nexon XMA, I am wondering why you didn't consider this automatic variant, which basically takes care of every gear shifting issue, and would fare much better in the gridlocked quagmire that is the technopark area today, and is better than the 4th Gen City in several areas. Better tyres, better audio, Sunroof etc. It doesn't seem that you have TD'd the automatic variant at all.

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Since your list also contains the Nexon XMA, I am wondering why you didn't consider this automatic variant, which basically takes care of every gear shifting issue, and would fare much better in the gridlocked quagmire that is the technopark area today, and is better than the 4th Gen City in several areas. Better tyres, better audio, Sunroof etc. It doesn't seem that you have TD'd the automatic variant at all.
Frankly I was a bit wary of taking an automatic offering from Tata. So decided to take a manual if it had to be a TATA.

The Kazhakuttam Technopark area was a nightmare (at least in the pre covid era). I normally don't take that route to visit tvm city. Moreover once the kazhakuttam flyover is completed, i expect things to improve

The XMA doesn't offer sun roof (though it was not a must have criteria)
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Old 25th May 2021, 17:50   #28
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Congratulations on your new ride! The car is a stunner and personally I love grey cars so this one was a treat for me.

Even after a couple of years from the original launch, this iteration of the car still looks really fresh and modern. There are very few car families IMHO that can age so well and the City family is definitely a part of that list!

This generation of the city I feel is the perfect match for someone who wants a no-nonsense well-rounded car at a reasonable price point. As much as I like the newest generation of the city, I feel it is slightly overpriced as the case with all the latest iterations of the city family.

Wishing you many happy miles ahead with your grey stallion!
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Congratulations! In 2021, For the money this car retails at, the 4th Gen Honda City SV, it is hard to find a better package in the sea of compact SUVs that have taken this country by storm. Yes, the Rapid TSI is faster in straight line but can it match the aural treat of redlining a good ol' 4 cylinder? I think not.
For me, how an engine sounds while pushed is a factor that defines the experience of driving it. What you will hear in the Rapid will be the Maruti 800 thrum. Plus, you can't hit 7000 rpm in the Rapid. This is, of course is an individual opinion.
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Congrats on your new car. Even after launch of new City, the old 4th gen doesn't look outdated and call be biased but I think in some angles the old one looks better. Yes interior quality had always been an issue in 4th gen City.

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Cons:

Prominent hump in rear middle seat makes the seating posture of 5th passenger very terrible.
• Low GC and cost cutting compared to the 2017 facelift version
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By hump did you mean the little hump on the seat itself or the floor hump. Because usually Honda cars and specially City has very minimal floor hump. If you want a complete flat floor then you'll have to buy a full size SUV. If you're talking about the seat then let me assure you that 5th passenger in the rear won't complain in long journeys for this. I never sat in that position but you can take my word for this. Somehow it's not that uncomfortable as per my friends and family.

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Grey Stallion’s Heart- The Last of the Mohicans

The 1.5 litre I-Vtec - Enough Said!!!

The clutch+gearshift is very smooth and tempts us to keep riding through the gears. However shifting to 2nd gear from the higher gears feels notchy occasionally. My brother felt that grunt in 3rd gear is sub optimal. For overtakes, the 2nd or 4th gear performs better.
After driving 4th gen City for more than 5 years, all I can say is that sometimes you'll find engaging reverse little troublesome or notchy. Occasionally it takes a second try to engage reverse. Other than that I have never felt the gear box notchy. I don't know about others but my car has an issue where in 3rd gear, no matter at what RPM you are, if you release all ABC pedals and touch the gear lever, you'll feel some vibration in it. As if something is moving inside. It happens only in third gear and the issue has never been solved. Not sure but it might have something to do with gear synchronizer ring. But I have never felt any short of power in 3rd gear and so far the gearbox is trouble free (fingers crossed).
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