[CLIX]

Talking about the milage, in a city like Bangalore this milage conversation will fast become irrelevant. With jams every 200m in peak hours not sure what we are measuring.
Today I was out on an errand. 19km, nearly 3 hours.
Except on a fairly smooth "city" traffic flow, which is hard to come by these days, this "city milage" becomes fuzzy.
Our Honda City gives 7 kmpl in BLR city. The Jeep occasionally gives 11, drops to 6.5 after a bad day. Bad day meaning, stopped at jams more than moving. I'll be worried if my highway figure for the Jeep drops below 15. City figure means less and less these days.

[for_cars1]

Originally Posted by sharan_si

• Respectable highway mileage.
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... Guzzles fuel if pushed hard unlike 2.0 Diesel, which offers consistent mileage.
.... looks bare minimal compared to XUV 7OO and MG.
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Enjoyed reading your review Nice color too.
It for sure has a strong Fiat DNA and is full of character. The A Pillars, the shape of the door, the strong stance reminds me of my Fiat Palio which I used for more than a decade and sold a decade back. It was a gem of a car.

Having less features means less points of failure and this may actually be good in the longer run in terms of reliability.

With the recently launched cars coming out with gazillion different electronic features, there is a high probability of some sensor or the other failing every now and then and adding to the maintenance and reliability issues.

Its good to have a vehicle that is well engineered at its core even if it has lesser 'features'.

Originally Posted by CLIX

Talking about the milage, in a city like Bangalore this milage conversation will fast become irrelevant. With jams every 200m in peak hours not sure what we are measuring.
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Our Honda City gives 7 kmpl in BLR city. The Jeep occasionally gives 11, drops to 6.5 after a bad day. ..

Its fair to expect that petrol engines will deliver lesser mileage especially in stop and go traffic conditions. Getting a 7 kmpl mileage in bumper to bumper traffic conditions in Bangalore in typically the norm in a petrol vehicle. Only on highway runs with a steady speed, the mileage will reach double digits in a petrol. Also due to the lower torque, AC and load has a substantial impact on a petrol vehicle's mileage. My earlier petrol car also used to deliver 7 to 8kmpl in Blr city traffic.

My City Diesel has never given less than 15 kmpl in bumper to bumper Blr traffic in the last 90+K KM (read: covering 10 KM in 1 hour pre-covid conditions). Typical mileage in city drives is around 16 to 19kmpl and highways its around 21kmpl average. The mileage figures are also immune to AC or load conditions in the car, thats the suprising part.

[bangaloreguy]

Here is my brilliant black Longitude Petrol AT purchased last week (Feb 2022 model). Thanks for all the advice.

[sharan_si]

Originally Posted by for_cars1

Enjoyed reading your review Nice color too.
It for sure has a strong Fiat DNA and is full of character. The A Pillars, the shape of the door, the strong stance reminds me of my Fiat Palio which I used for more than a decade and sold a decade back. It was a gem of a car.....
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Thanks, I agree with your point on AC, petrol engines are sensitive to AC usage , with auto AC with hot temperatures mileage dropped by 1kmpl on highway, during same journey in the evening mileage was better.

[car-go]

I originally posted this in the jeep compass official review thread, but no replies.

Planning to buy Jeep Compass as a replacement to my SX4. Following is what the dealership (Celica Automobiles) told me:

Sports Petrol MT and Diesel Manual are obsolete now. Only available option is Sports Petrol AT. The on-road price for Kolkata is Rs.23.55 lakhs.
The next in range is Night Eagle (diesel manual at Rs.25+ lakhs, followed by Petrol AT which is still more). Longitude is now obsolete and is replaced by Night Eagle.

Please suggest if anyone yet knows about these changes (as website is yet to reflect this), and your opinion on the said on-road price.

[sharan_si]

Originally Posted by car-go

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The next in range is Night Eagle (diesel manual at Rs.25+ lakhs, followed by Petrol AT which is still more). Longitude is now obsolete and is replaced by Night Eagle.

Please suggest if anyone yet knows about these changes (as website is yet to reflect this), and your opinion on the said on-road price.

It's same as longitude with the black interior, the alloy wheel is 18 inch diamond cut with gun metal finish, and 7 slot grill comes with gun metal finish.

[car-go]

Originally Posted by sharan_si

It's same as longitude with the black interior, the alloy wheel is 18 inch diamond cut with gun metal finish, and 7 slot grill comes with gun metal finish.

That's right Sharan, and thanks a ton for a great review - inspires confidence in going for petrol DCT. I did PDI for the Sport variant today which I booked a few days back. Found that it ships with tire pressure monitoring system/ TPMS now. That was a delight for me! (Not sure if that is covered in any of the earlier posts)

[sharan_si]

Originally Posted by car-go

That's right Sharan, and thanks a ton for a great review - inspires confidence in going for petrol DCT. I did PDI for the Sport variant today which I booked a few days back. Found that it ships with tire pressure monitoring system/ TPMS now. That was a delight for me! (Not sure if that is covered in any of the earlier posts)

TPMS is not present in mine, Good to know that its present in newer model.

[car-go]

Got my Sport Petrol DDCT delivered last Saturday! Enjoying the drive, and exactly as Sharan had put the experience as. Till 25-26 kmph, the car is lethargic, after which it bursts out on long stretches. Its like, when starting from a traffic, everyone seems to whizz past and mine is a white elephant, elegant and poised (ha! ha! ha!). After a while, it springs into action, very well mannered and poised on the road.

City and dealership - Kolkata (Celica Automobiles), accessories from Glix.

What I liked - Everything. It was a family decision as well that included my wife and 7 years old daughter. We did not look beyond for any other car. TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system) is a welcome addition.

What could be still there - Fog lamps (they were there in pre-facelift model), rear parcel shelf. Compared to my SX4, I miss the full size spare alloy wheel.

What I did not mind - 8" infotainment screen instead of 10" (in higher models) as to me, the visual difference was not much (personal opinion only), or the 3.5" instrument cluster instead of 7" or up (higher models).

Background
I have driven Maruti 800 STD (my father had one, I got another later - both petrols; it was years that I drove them since 1994, till around 2003. Then I got a Tata Indica DLS (Diesel), which I drove for another 6 years. In between I was in the US where I drove a number of cars that included (US versions, in case these cars came to India) Ford Escort, GMC Envoy, Pontiac Grand AM (all out two-door sports coupe), Toyota Corolla, Honda Accord, a few pickup trucks as well as vans!

Back in India, I got a Maruti SX4 ZXI (2009 petrol), which has been my workhorse for 13 long years! It was a charm driving it, always. Wanted to change the car once maintenance including tires took toll and it was already quite a number of years with it by now (that itch!).

Choosing the vehicle
I was split on choosing either petrol (have loved it for so long, given maintenance issues in my diesel Indica earlier) or diesel (given the grunt as per TBhp reviews), and between manual (so far so long) and automatic (my knees at times show wear and tear). Celica Automobiles is the only dealer in Kolkata. However, they have been super responsive. Vishal Gupta in sales has been a charm.

I initially wanted to get the Sport Petrol MT, however they informed me that Jeep is discontinuing Sport MT (both in petrol and diesel) and Longitude versions. Later while asked why Jeep had retained the models in their online website, they said that it was a marketing tactic to retain the lowest prices (read Sport) and range (read, Longitude) there for sometime to attract customers.

Did test drives for both diesel manual (Limited) and petrol automatic (Model S). The dealership was very responsive; they were at my home within an hour of calling for a test drive. Diesel grunt was there, but that throb was something I still did not like (personal opinion only). Petrol was good except for the initial pickup as has already been covered; but I can live with it for another reason - my wife. She always complains on me driving too fast or in overtaking mode. This petrol was so sedate that my wife loved it. By the time it takes picking up speed, she cannot feel the acceleration inside the cabin.

So we settled for the petrol automatic, and brilliant white color. The color is vastly improved from the pre-facelift white (rather, off white). We had driven cars in blue, red, black, steel/ silver, and this time we wanted white as it also "looked" big.

Dealership experience and delivery
Celica was super responsive as I earlier mentioned. When the car came, they readily accommodated my request for PDI at the workshop, which is also their stockyard. During delivery at the showroom (Park Street, Kolkata), the experience was excellent. Included a cake cutting and usual photo shoot. They gave around 8 lt. of petrol to get started, for which I definitely had to land up at the nearest fuel station. TBhp was all along the way with the reviews, PDI checklists and what not!

The OTR came to Rs. 22.7 lakhs approx. after the April price increase and a small discount due to Mar '22 manufacture. Included ex-showroom, taxes, accessories (only floor mats and mud flaps), insurance (tad higher, but had negotiated; I prefer to get my new car insurance from the dealer to ensure the details are fine, and I get the right servicing in case something happens in the very first year).

The delivery demo was given in detail by the Vishal, with all papers explained meticulously. The paper owner's manual was given, however, found that the online softcopy was much more detailed. He has been a pretty thorough and accommodative guy all along the sales process, with no hurries or hard sales push exhibited.

I got the seat covers, steering cover and dashboard idol from Glix, Salt Lake. It took around 4 hours. The experience at Glix was equally great, and this has been quite recommended by TBhp members. All came at around Rs. 16K.

Driving till now
Having driven some 100+ km, the average mileage shows around 9.5 kmpl. At around 50 km, it was 11 kmpl, and then too much of stop and go traffic reduced the numbers. Only once did I get a 'service transmission' warning; restarting the engine helped (as per owner's manual) to get rid of it. Thereafter, it has not recurred, touch wood.

Now for the photos






Interior with seat covers from Glix


TPMS, as I mentioned earlier, was a great addition

[sharan_si]

Congrats, TPMS is good addition, also change the TPMS setting to display in psi instead of bar, sports automatic is vfm of all models, 10' infotainment would have been better, also it looks well integrated compared to 8'. I recommend putting good quality steering cover. Coming to mileage, mileage will drop drastically with stop go traffic you should be happy anything over 8 in city. You will get above 12 on highway with light foot.

[car-go]

Originally Posted by sharan_si

Congrats, TPMS is good addition, also change the TPMS setting to display in psi instead of bar, sports automatic is vfm of all models, 10' infotainment would have been better, also it looks well integrated compared to 8'. I recommend putting good quality steering cover. Coming to mileage, mileage will drop drastically with stop go traffic you should be happy anything over 8 in city. You will get above 12 on highway with light foot.

Sure Sharan, I would check if I can change from bar to psi (should be able to). Yes, the infotainment screen is a personal choice only based on variant I got; did check the larger one out on Limited and Model S demo vehicles. Mileage, I am ok with and happy as well.

[car-go]

Mileage more or less remains at 9+ kmpl. I changed the TPMS display from bar to psi using the Uconnect screen.
A question though - If I disable auto start/stop (even the showroom advised me to do that as it is a nuisance in stop-&-go traffic), is there any alternative to stop the ignition at a long traffic signal (say more than 3 min)? This would save fuel, instead of simply idling the engine at neutral or drive mode.

[sharan_si]

Originally Posted by car-go

....is there any alternative to stop the ignition at a long traffic signal (say more than 3 min)? This would save fuel, instead of simply idling the engine at neutral or drive mode.

Shift the gear to P and press the start/stop switch.

[vinodvaddi]

I find that most of the water bottles that I have, do not fit in the bottle holders on the doors. The same bottles fit easily on Brezza. I'm forced to carry much smaller bottles due to this. What are your thoughts on this?

[sharan_si]

Originally Posted by vinodvaddi

I find that most of the water bottles that I have, do not fit in the bottle holders on the doors. The same bottles fit easily on Brezza. I'm forced to carry much smaller bottles due to this. What are your thoughts on this?

I face same issue, I am using 700ml bottles in front, remaining in back seat.