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2013 BMW (F20) 116i | 230 BHP + 330 Nm in a true (READ:RWD) Hot Hatchback

I present to you – an absolute antithesis of the car in my previous ownership report. Objectively, both of them are hatchbacks, but fundamentally they are different animals.

The one before this was a transverse FWD, turbo-diesel. Torquey, explosive low-to-mid range. Rapid in-gear acceleration.
This one is a longitudinal RWD, turbo-petrol. High-revving, entertaining mid-range. Effortless top-speed cruiser.

It all started with hunting for a small car for my Mum. One she could pop around the shops and salons in, go to kitty parties, basically do mom things. By the time I am finished with this car, she’s going to be fed up with all the tinkering at some point and we might have to get her something new. But yeah, she’s okay with it, for now, in fact, she likes it a lot. Only people with eccentric tastes much like herself would like their car in Valencia Orange. It’s a proper BMW color as far as I’m concerned.

Rare car, you ask?
The idea of an RWD hatchback is quite an elusive one. I had to look up how many of these automotive unicorns are in existence. This is a two-part question – How many RWD hatchbacks have been sold? a. “in India?” or, b. “in the world?”

The last RWD hatchback on sale in India that comes to mind is the Tata Nano. That car despite its comparable equipment levels was conceived with an entirely different set of design values.

As far as “in the world” goes, I really couldn’t come up with anything modern except the F20/F21 BMW 1-series which made it to our shores back in 2012. Although, it wasn’t on sale very long given BMW India’s delusional pricing, shockingly low levels of equipment (especially the one I ended up with), and its perceivably impractical nature.

• There was a time when BMW was indeed very committed to being “The Ultimate Driving Machine.”
• They have, on multiple occasions in the past, shown a very stoic stance on what ought to be the drivetrain layout of choice for pure driving pleasure. RWD. Period.
• As and how the SUV line-up started to grow with xDrive systems. They were still insistent that their four-wheel-drive setup was inherently rear-biased to deliver the kind of driver involvement and feel, as one expects out of a BMW.
• xDrive systems made their way to sedans & station wagons (as an option) sold in the colder parts of the civilized world to aid in better traction during winters or just feel more surefooted on wet surfaces, in general. Also, chief competitor Audi, with its Quattro sedans, conclusively proved there is indeed a market for this product. It wasn’t very long before Mercedes-Benz also brought out their 4Matic system on the non-SUV models.
• BMW broke tradition and the internet when first reports came out back in 2012 that the upcoming Paris Motor Show was likely to see the launch of an FWD BMW.
• They unveiled their new UKL-architecture which will be shared among a variety of FWD & AWD models (MINI, 1-series, 2-series, X1, X2).
• The new 1-series (F40) was launched in July 2019 based on this UKL-platform. What once prided itself to be the only RWD hatchback out there has now succumbed to market forces and capitalism.
• I read somewhere, that almost 80% of the previous generation 1-series owners were not even aware of the fact that their car was RWD.
• To most buyers in this segment, what matters more is a well-packaged, quality interior and luggage space.
• A transversely mounted engine frees up a lot more room inside the wheelbase of the car. No driveshaft going to the back means more space in the rear too.
• Add to this, economies of scale involved in using a modular platform to be shared with other “lower class” models (literally “UKL” or “Untere Klasse” in German) made it a no-brainer for them to adapt to manufacturing hatchbacks in FWD only much like all of its competitors.

This car was pretty much dead on arrival as far as sales numbers go. Let’s get all that’s wrong straight out of the way:

• No iDrive. The 116i comes equipped with a spartan-era BMW Business Radio Unit. No USB just a 3.5mm Auxiliary input & a CD player. Has Bluetooth but for phone calls only
• Manual seat adjustment for fore & aft movements. The height adjust lever is just plain ridiculous. Get this, you cannot get the seat raised when the inside the car. You have to open the door, get out, and pull on a plastic lever that appears to be spring-loaded which instantly pops the seat on its highest setting. Need to get it somewhere in the middle? Sit back on the seat and gently pull on the same lever that will lower itself with your weight on it.
• No sunroof, No electrically foldable mirrors, No Climate Control, Indicators seem to have a mind of their own!
• Rear seat legroom is a joke on this thing. There’s a massive hump that houses the driveshaft underneath. At best, a 4 seater, well only just. Above 5ft 10’’? – You ought to be extra nice to the front passengers!
• Run-flat tires, no spare, no toolkit. Add to that a host of electronic systems and sensors. In short, a marriage proposal from your local BMW dealers’ workshop. Have a puncture? Bad sensor? – Drive cautiously (in limp mode) and bring her in.
• Halogen headlights, no HIDs/Xenons/Angel Eyes as standard, Hideous aftermarket LED daytime running/indicator lamps courtesy of the previous owner.

Now, the good bits
• Last of the breed, short wheelbase RWD hatchback designed from the ground up to deliver driving joy & exhilaration. Excellent engine-chassis dynamics.
• Front-mid longitudinally-mounted, direct-injected 1.6L twin-scroll turbo with dual variable valve timing (double VANOS) dubbed “Prince Engine” – a motor that was jointly developed by BMW & PSA which redlines at 6,500 rpm albeit kind of gutless (more on this in the drive impressions below).
• The famed, ZF 8-speed automatic gearbox. Industry-standard – applauded the world over in a variety of applications.
• Driver mode toggle switch between Eco Pro, Comfort & Sport impacting throttle response, steering feel, and gear shift aggressiveness. Also BMW's idiot-proof DSC (Dynamic Stability Control = Allows a bit of fun, won't let you bin it).
• A very tasteful, custom orange & black leather interior with quilting on the seats again, courtesy – of the previous owner.

The car was a used purchase made in January 2019. It is an MY-2013 BMW F20 116i which had just about 19,000 km on the odometer. It was very gingerly driven within the city fulfilling similar duties (as it does now) at the hands of an affluent middle-aged woman.

Driving Impressions:
A bit of a disclaimer, my driving impressions for this car would often be benchmarked concerning the other “hot hatch” in the garage. It’s my beloved first project car – the https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-...stein-b6s.html (2013 Volkswagen Polo 1.6L GT TDI - An enthusiast's delight (Quantum Remap + Downpipe + Bilstein B6s)).

I’d suggest giving that hyperlink ago. It might seem like a dense read, I’m still experimenting with writing styles. Here’s Hoping I hit the sweet spot between informational, insightful, and engaging soon.

Stock:
Straight off the bat – This is not a fast car, at least it doesn’t feel that way. The power delivery of this engine reaffirms that it is indeed the way the torque is delivered is that makes you feel that punchy grunt. I’m coming from a daily driving diesel engine with peak torque of around 310 Nm available between 2,000-3,000 rpm (i.e 1000 rpm spread). Feels very spikey. A much more pronounced push back to the seat is felt in this band as a result.

By contrast, the 116i has a steady peak torque of 220 Nm spread from a near-idle 1350 rpm to 4300 rpm. Power delivery is of a much rather linear fashion in this engine. It makes a peak HP of 100 kW (136 bhp) at 4,400 RPM. This engine loves to be revved until the redline even though nothing is achieved past 5,000 rpm.
The low-end although not explosive is very responsive. It picks up revs eagerly and goes about progressively delivering power. It’s a smooth petrol motor with a sweet-sounding stock exhaust (in the top end). These characteristics felt much more pronounced after installing the MST Performance Intake Kit.

The stock plastic hose was cracked around the edges where it clamps onto the turbocharger (a known issue). Instead of simply replacing the hose, I decided on upgrading the whole intake system which included the following:
- 5-ply Silicone turbo-inlet hose.
- Aluminium intake pipe with CNC housing for sensor.
- Permanent high-flow, washable air filter.
- Heat-shield (model-specific design).

MST performance claims a dyno result of +13 bhp & +23.5 Nm @ 4,000 rpm on a bone stock 2016 116i.
A lesser restrictive intake made this engine noticeably more free-revving. It also makes the pssssstt intake noises on lift-off. Guaranteed wide grins, every single time.

Also, the stock diverter valve has been replaced with a GFB DV+.
The precise workings and functioning of this part by design are best left to the explainer video as produced by GFB AU.

The net result of this modification is sharper throttle response, which helps in better regulation of in-gear boost pressure & more sweet noises on the lift.

Stage 2 Story:
Historically, my family has always been inclined towards buying new. This however is something the more I think about, the less sense it makes to me. I have developed quite an automotive habit over the years. Lurking around in specialists’ forums empowered by Chrome’s translate page feature, looking up diagrams and part numbers on RealOEM, ordering my parts from eBay, YouTube diagnosis, the list of resources available now is endless. Moderator akshay1234 and I go back to our college days, he has always been my guiding light, whenever I find myself out of my depths.

My used car buying process is quite motivated by the incremental changes I can make to it over time. It’s got to have a certain sense of OEM plus if you like. The way it should have been sold to us enthusiasts in the first place.
BMW’s intentions with the 1-series started out chasing its core values. However, in a market like India, we were sold a hot hatchback that was lukewarm at best. The prince engine sees a varied application across a LOT of other cars from brands like Peugeot, Citroen & Mini in a myriad of states of tunes. Tweaked versions of this same engine continue to be in use at present, the highest power output of which is 270 bhp in the Peugeot 308 GTi.

Quantum tuning UK’s figures for their engine remap gives a whopping 64% increase in horsepower and 40% increase in torque. The car now makes peak horsepower of 220 bhp @ 6,000 RPM & 310 Nm peak torque @ 2,500 rpm. A custom de-cat downpipe was also thrown into this mix for smoother idle, cleaner revs, and free-flow of exhaust gases. Also, sound, this is now possibly the sweetest sounding petrol engine I have ever owned. In comfort, below 3000 rpm (where my mom would drive it) there is no telling of its sporting intentions. It’s got beautiful low-speed driveability and half-decent throttle response even in ECO PRO mode. Classic Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde.

Throw in those claimed added horsepower figures by MST Performance with their air intake kit, we’re close to 233 bhp & 332 Nm. I know the numbers do not work like that*; I am due to a trip to the dyno soon, really curious to see how much power she is putting out.

This is now, a PROPER hot hatchback. Just like it should have been since it rolled out of the factory. I am nursing a few leaks at the moment because of a few brittle hoses and old gaskets giving away. Other than that, oil temps are fine and the car has not thrown out any errors whatsoever.

The following items were also coded in:
- Sport transmission program update for the ZF 8-speed.
- Sport+ (Dynamic DSC) driving mode activation.
- Pops & bangs (burbles tune)

Sport+ mode: Sharpest throttle, maximum punch setting, BMW dynamic stability control will ensure a very controlled loss in composure at the rear every single time you launch from a standstill. It is enormously entertaining. You get intake noises, boost wooshes, and rorty exhaust notes up to the redline. The sport transmission update has really worked wonders, there is a perceptible difference in the way it goes through the gears now. Liftoff and the DV+ will get you back on boost almost immediately as you get back on the throttle. Liftoff too quick, you will get deep pops & bangs that are not indecently loud yet very sporty. Bring the exhaust up to temperature, and yes, she will even spit flames out the tailpipe!

I do not care much for the premium hatchback/CSUV offerings of the present day even though they may be a lot more spacious, practical, economical, and reliable. For the price of a new KIA Sonet, I pride myself in driving what is possibly the last RWD hatchback in existence designed by the boys in Bavaria, souped-up by a bunch of boys in Bombay. Huge shout out to the team at Redline Autohaus. We’ve made something special here. This one is a keeper, have big plans for her in the distant future. For now, can’t wait to take her out on long drives and put her through its paces once lockdown is finally over.

I do not want to sound repetitive, but as I said in my ownership report of the Polo GT TDI as well, caveat emptor. The tuner life is not for everybody, such projects can soon become money pits especially when you end up throwing parts at it willy-nilly in hopes of fixing a particular problem. It’s a test of patience and a matter of perseverance.
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It is an MY-2013 BMW F20 116i
Such a unicorn! Never saw one, never knew something like this existed and now I am so glad it exists thanks to this thread.
The car looks much better than saggy belly E82,E87 135/138i models which I have seen.
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Love how the writeup went from this
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It all started with hunting for a small car for my Mum.
to this
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Stage 2 Story:
Very well played, mate
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I had a 116i (2014) and I concur. The car was brilliant to drive but seriously stripped down. Reading this thread brought back memories. Wish Iíd kept it and gone down your route with Akshay. It is spot on as a drivers car. Nothing to distract. All the best and many happy years of driving.
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I heard about this build from a guy with a x3 when he was tuning my car in Delhi.

As a fellow BMW owner it's exciting to see stuff to other BMWs. I have a F25 X3 3.0d and E60 530i. Was looking at getting a tune on my X3 but later just got my Passat 1.8 tsi stage 2.

Congratulations and many happy miles ..

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I just recently discovered that these cars existed in India and I have been intrigued since then. Always thought that the diesel was the superior engine of the two but now I don't think so. That numbers are really good for a hatchback. Perfect size, Powerful and RWD.
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I am also a proud owner of the 2014 1 series 116i here in the UK. It makes every drive an enjoyable one and you always make a reason to drive this ultimate unicorn
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Such a unicorn! Never saw one, never knew something like this existed and now I am so glad it exists thanks to this thread.
The car looks much better than saggy belly E82,E87 135/138i models which I have seen.
Right? The E-82/E-87 wasn't much of a looker at all. It's a shame that there was no follow-up 1M on the F20 platform. That car was essentially turkey curry on boxing day yet one of the G.O.A.T.s. No matter who you ask, Clarkson or Harris.

I remember Clarkson driving the F21 M135i in the rain and it aquaplaning on him



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Love how the writeup went from this

to this

Very well played, mate
HAHAHA! Life of a petrolhead mate, if there is anyone who understands what it is, it is our lot right here.

"No mom, you don't want a cheap to run and reliable daily. What you do want is an RWD with a burble tune that can spit flames on the over-run."

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I had a 116i (2014) and I concur. The car was brilliant to drive but seriously stripped down. Reading this thread brought back memories. Wish Iíd kept it and gone down your route with Akshay. It is spot-on as a driver's car. Nothing to distract. All the best and many happy years of driving.
Thank you so much, mate. Wow, She looks stunning in Red, it must be said!

I was really surprised to see little to none of the ownership reports for this beast. This car is too good to be forgotten, I hope my thread can inspire more folks out there to go out there and experience this car.

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I heard about this build from a guy with a x3 when he was tuning my car in Delhi.

As a fellow BMW owner it's exciting to see stuff to other BMWs. I have a F25 X3 3.0d and E60 530i. Was looking at getting a tune on my X3 but later just got my Passat 1.8 tsi stage 2.

Congratulations and many happy miles ..

Cheers
Thanks mate! Oo, you have a great couple of BMWs right there. That 3.0d engine is a monster, Tanveer had opened his up to Stage 2. Moderator Akshay's X3 has had a turbo upgrade and is running Stage 3 if I am not mistaken. E60 530i is a fabulous car to keep stock, a very distilled form of driving pleasure, especially with that hydraulic steering!

VAG cars may be abundant and tuner friendly. Tuned BMWs are in a whole other league as far as driving dynamics are concerned. Maybe reconsider the tune on the X3. xDrive drifts haha, you most certainly won't regret it!

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I just recently discovered that these cars existed in India and I have been intrigued since then. Always thought that the diesel was the superior engine of the two but now I don't think so. That numbers are really good for a hatchback. Perfect size, Powerful and RWD.
Diesel is the more practical choice. BMW India also thought the majority of their sales are going to be in Diesel guise. The petrol variant really got step-motherly treatment, by being available only in this one barebones variant. (Still not over how I don't even get i-Drive)

From an enthusiast's perspective, having driven a stock 118d (M-sport variant in the UK), it does tend to feel a bit more nose-heavy in the corners. A remap on the diesel will give you a 27% increase in horsepower at best and round about the same bump in torque figures too.

PS: I forgot to mention that I am running a 97-octane fuel map to be able to push out 64% more horsepower and 40% more torque from the stock 1.6L turbo engine.

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I am also a proud owner of the 2014 1 series 116i here in the UK. It makes every drive an enjoyable one and you always make a reason to drive this ultimate unicorn
Gang gang! I had my heart set on the 1-series in my time in the UK as a student. Did a full London-Leeds-Edinburgh-Leeds drive-in a 2017 118d M-Sport Shadow Edition. That is when I fell in love with this car, I knew I had to get my hands on one at some point.

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The 1-series seems to have done pretty well in the UK market. I ended up ordering a bunch of parts/gaskets off eBay, they are available in abundance and are not ridiculously expensive either. I hope yours is better equipped as standard. Wish you very many happy miles in your car!
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[/quote] Thank you so much, mate. Wow, She looks stunning in Red, it must be said!

I was really surprised to see little to none of the ownership reports for this beast. This car is too good to be forgotten, I hope my thread can inspire more folks out there to go out there and experience this car. [quote]

My Team BHP Moniker IS because of this car!! Big rear end slides when you want, but never totally silly. Seeing this thread, feels strange. I didnít miss the iDrive like you did, but I didnít have Bluetooth for the phone and there was no centre armrest!!!! Talk about cost cutting. Cloth upholstery as delivered!!! Halogen lights and no coronas. I guess thatís why I sold it, it was my first big 3 German car experience and I was too scared to even change out the light bulbs to white ones for fear of errors!!!

Enjoy the drive!! Iíll live vicariously through you!!
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Nice to see this thread although it's easy to see why the little BMW was dead on arrival in the Indian market looking at your negatives . BMW India really seem to have under-specced the car without the adjustable sports seats , xenons , Idrive ! , climate control , foldable mirrors ..etc .

1. You need to run an upgraded intercooler if you are running a stage 2 ECU tune.
2. At least 98 RON petrol is recommended too.
3. Do not run a burble tune - tell your tuner to code it off . It's debatable but the majority opinion is that it ruins things.

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I myself found about this car a few months ago and have been dreaming about it ever since, I plan to buy this as MY first project car. I have been struggling to find a good example of either the 116i/118d. Also, can someone help identify the common issues in these cars that I should look out for when inspecting a pre-loved example? And how much was the setback for acquiring the car and getting it to stage-2 for you?

Congrats on this little beast!
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I myself found about this car a few months ago and have been dreaming about it ever since, I plan to buy this as MY first project car. I have been struggling to find a good example of either the 116i/118d. Also, can someone help identify the common issues in these cars that I should look out for when inspecting a pre-loved example? And how much was the setback for acquiring the car and getting it to stage-2 for you?

Congrats on this little beast!

F20 116i -

Valve cover gasket leaks
Coolant leaks
Fuel pumps - both high pressure and low pressure pumps + pump relay

^ expensive as need to change out parts.

Intake pipe can crack even without a tune
( https://www.ftpmotorsport.com.tw/pro...13-intake-pipe - excellent replacement part )

Have heard that wheel sensors can be a recurring problem

The N13 engine can use a lot of engine oil especially tuned

Will need to change spark plugs and ignition coils at a faster rate when tuned

Stage 2 will need a bigger intercooler AND a downpipe either high flow or catless.
Even a Stage 1 bumps power from 136 bhp to around 220 bhp! with massive improvement in driving pleasure.

These cars have so much support in aftermarket or even BMW original parts overseas that you can throw never-ending piles of money at them
  • M sport bumper kits
  • At least 2 kinds of M sport or performance steering wheels
  • M sport seats
  • Interior trim panels
  • Gear shift levers
  • M sport pedal covers
  • Splitters and spoilers
  • Rims
  • M sport or M performance big brake kits
  • Various sound system upgrades
  • Quaife aftermarket LSD - this is something I want!
..etc etc
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Nice to see this thread although it's easy to see why the little BMW was dead on arrival in the Indian market looking at your negatives . BMW India really seem to have under-specced the car without the adjustable sports seats , xenons , Idrive ! , climate control , foldable mirrors ..etc .

1. You need to run an upgraded intercooler if you are running a stage 2 ECU tune.
2. At least 98 RON petrol is recommended too.
3. Do not run a burble tune - tell your tuner to code it off . It's debatable but the majority opinion is that it ruins things.

This is my lil Bimmer
She looks gorgeous in that shade of blue. Smashing wheels also. Yours looks like an M-Sport LCI car with the wrap-around taillights. The spec on your Lil beamer sparks envy. Well done sir, wish you very many happy miles with her.

1. I have had zero instances of overheating, spirited runs in Mumbai with the heatwave et al notwithstanding. All temps have mostly been well within the tolerances for my usage. I would consider an intercooler upgrade if I intend to track her more.

I say track her more because I did actually find myself at the Open Drift Day hosted by the Supercar Club Garage in Thane back in end of November 2021. An absolute need for a bigger intercooler still did not make itself apparent. Attaching a few videos from the event. Huge shout out to my homie Arvaan Joshi @ SCCG! What a fabulous Sunday it was! Here is a video of my Lil Beamer in action!



2. The petrol filler cap/lid on the Indian CKD 116i's reads "Recommended RON 95 to 98". Besides, the tune I am running atm is optimized for 97-octane only.

3. The majority opinion on the DV+ also was not to get it installed. I have been running both just fine for over a year now. From my research, the VAG cars don't respond all that well to a change in the diverter valve.

For those who are interested, see this video by GFB AU themselves explaining how the diverter valve works and how their design is uprated for better performance.



The burble tune (the one I am running) is very subtle and seems to be a lot more sophisticated than just a constantly farty VAG car (Yes, I am looking at you 1.2 TSi boys). I remember taking a spin in one of those, there are pops, bangs, farts, and crackles in simply moving away from a standstill even. I believe this desired effect comes from an aggressive level of timing retardation, which I agree could ruin things.

The tuned N13 needs to be revved out high up and only a particular kind of lift (not just any/all) will give you the burbles. My budding enthusiast friends had to try more than once to find them in the first place.

Here's a video of my car, giving me the thrills, at safe and legal speeds on public roads.



That said, I hope my engine continues to be healthy in the long run as well. Expect updates on this thread as I intend to make this thread the ultimate 1-series in India resource for all petrolheads out there salivating at the thought of an RWD hatchback!

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I myself found about this car a few months ago and have been dreaming about it ever since, I plan to buy this as MY first project car. I have been struggling to find a good example of either the 116i/118d. Also, can someone help identify the common issues in these cars that I should look out for when inspecting a pre-loved example? And how much was the setback for acquiring the car and getting it to stage-2 for you?

Congrats on this little beast!
Thank you so much, turbogeek. I'd say 116i if you are really wanting the full tuner/project experience. 118d, if you want to be more inclined towards building a more practical daily with higher FE and better equipment.

As for the setback on my wallet. Let's just say, all in, it costs around about the same as a brand new top-end Brezza on-road in Mumbai.

shrjun has very well highlighted the most common/known issues with the 116i below.

There was a steering rack noise plaguing this generation of BMW models (my car included). There is a rack repair kit with the uprated internal parts which in itself is not expensive at all, where it does get a bit pricey is in labor costs as the rack needs to be removed, dismantled, and reinstalled. Watch out for the state of the suspension too, when buying used.

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F20 116i -

Valve cover gasket leaks
Coolant leaks
Fuel pumps - both high pressure and low pressure pumps + pump relay

^ expensive as need to change out parts.

Intake pipe can crack even without a tune
( https://www.ftpmotorsport.com.tw/pro...13-intake-pipe - excellent replacement part )

Have heard that wheel sensors can be a recurring problem

The N13 engine can use a lot of engine oil especially tuned

Will need to change spark plugs and ignition coils at a faster rate when tuned

Stage 2 will need a bigger intercooler AND a downpipe either high flow or catless.
Even a Stage 1 bumps power from 136 bhp to around 220 bhp! with massive improvement in driving pleasure.

These cars have so much support in aftermarket or even BMW original parts overseas that you can throw never-ending piles of money at them
  • M sport bumper kits
  • At least 2 kinds of M sport or performance steering wheels
  • M sport seats
  • Interior trim panels
  • Gear shift levers
  • M sport pedal covers
  • Splitters and spoilers
  • Rims
  • M sport or M performance big brake kits
  • Various sound system upgrades
  • Quaife aftermarket LSD - this is something I want!
..etc etc
Wow bro, you really seem to be a 116i veteran. I have had all the issues that you have highlighted except for the fuel pumps, fortunately (I hope they are not on their way out anytime soon).

If you could, please share more details and pictures of your ride and all that you have done for her so far. Quaife aftermarket LSD is an absolutely drool-worthy kinda upgrade. It would make my drifts SO much better!

I wish I could have all the upgrades you mentioned above. But for now, I could really use an armrest, good speakers, and paddles on my steering wheel for a kickoff.
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This is actually a pre LCI M sport trim F20 116i - pretty much the same car as yours. I've owned it from new and it's currently at around 1.14 lakh kms over 7 years. It is THE family car hence no tracking done unlike your very entertaining videos

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Adding on a few photos of things added on or replaced.

BBS CH-R 18 " with Michelin PS3 ZP:

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BBS Wheel Studs:

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KW Street Comfort replacing my stock M Sport suspension at around 90k kms:

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M performance brake kit - 4 pot front with 370 mm discs , 2 pot rear with 345 mm discs:

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Hitting 100k kms:

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Some cosmetic and not so cosmetic mods:

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Some more interior shots:

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Re: 2013 BMW (F20) 116i | 230 BHP + 330 Nm in a true (READ:RWD) Hot Hatchback

Have also replaced all the plastic pipes in the engine bay with the below metal replacements.

https://www.ftpmotorsport.com.tw/cat...s/f-n13-engine

They painted my intake pipe with the car colour paint code
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