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24th September 2022, 17:16 | #1 |
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| Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid Finally on 23rd June 2022, in the late evening we bought home our first “true” luxury car Volvo XC60 B5 Inscription AWD, mild hybrid, in Crystal White Pearl shade. And on 24th June 2022, early morning, it was gone! . Read on to find out. I decided to pen down this ownership review, a first for me, so that other prospective buyers and casual readers can get acquainted with the XC60. There are very few reviews and ownership threads on XC60 but perhaps none on the latest B5 mild hybrid. I do not possess technical knowledge unlike other fellow bhpians so my ownership review is simpler and more aimed to explain my experience to a common man rather than a techie. At the time of this writing, the car had done 2500 kms within 60 days (mystery explained below about how come 30 days between June to September). Please excuse me for very few photos as I felt that general photos of the car are readily available and posting them again will not serve any purpose. I will try to add on photos later to this thread as I keep updating it with my experience. Note to Team Bhp: There is no review of Volvo cars recently and for sure not on XC60 B5 AWD. If possible, please review the car and if required, I will be more than happy to lend mine for the review. Volvo as a brand is largely unknown in India and this forum is also read by casual car owners / lovers for accurate information. A detailed review might help them making an informed decision. Quick Pros and Cons of XC60 Pros
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Selection Process We (me & wife) were quite happy with our white X1 20d. It was about to turn 5 this year in August. However, the extended warranty would have expired in August and new warranty for the 5th year was quoted around 86k excluding GST and 2.7L for the sixth year. We were not in mood to spend that kind of money on extended warranty and being a diesel car, we were also apprehensive about its resale after 6 years given 10 years restriction in Delhi NCR. We were also not comfortable maintaining the car without warranty as three shockers had been replaced in warranty within 26k km and I can assure all that I’m not a rash driver hitting potholes. Few other minor repairs had also been carried out in warranty. So, we decided to move ahead with a new car. This time we both were very adamant on buying an Indian car with following criteria:
Tried both Tata and M&M but failed to materialize a purchase. The Tata’s ASS and horror stories of issues in new cars at delivery time, within months of delivery and horrible sales service kept me away from them (No offense to any of the owners. This is purely personal choice). Being in a manufacturing line with extensive customer servicer experience, wherever I feel that my business and satisfaction is not important to a company, I simply take my business somewhere else where I’m more important and I’m treated well. We were very much interested in Harrier but due to above issues, did not even go to check the car. Next in line was XUV700. The moment we entered Prime Mahindra; we were told that it’s on waiting list of 18 months. The SA was remotely interested in showing the car forget any test drive. Anyways, we checked the car standing in the showroom and was pretty impressed with the interior quality. But waiting 18 months is not our cup of tea. No product can justify that long a wait. So, this was also deleted from the list. There goes our resolve to by an Indian car and we were soon scouting for Europeans. X3: Was not very inclined but anyways went for it to complete the process. The experience was lack luster. Deutsche Motoren, Mathura Road was not interested in X3. There was no car on display. The SA took us down in the basement where we were asked to look at the car. We, just for the sake of it and confirming our decision that X3 is not for us, checked out the car. The top end M sport variant was shown that still lacked most of the creature comforts at that price point. We did not find X3 to be suitable upgrade to X1. We were hardly gaining anything except the fat invoice. The showroom experience made our decision easy. Rejected. LX300h: Was very enthusiastic about Lexus so booked the appointment at Lexus New Delhi. Very impressive showroom with lots of elements. But LX300h was nowhere to be seen. We reached little early at the showroom so we had to wait. We did not mind enjoying excellent coffee served with cookies. The car was outside and shown to us along with test drive. We were not very impressed especially wifey. The interiors looked luxurious with lot’s of leather and HUD was very crisp but that is all about it. The interiors somehow looked dated even though bathed in leather. I did not find the car enjoyable to drive due to CVT rubber band effect although it is much less than Honda City. The AC could not cool the cabin in approx. 20 minutes of test drive. The sound system was really hopeless (again no offense to owners. Personal opinion). The central console unit was tilted more towards driver than required. BMW has perfected this. It came with RFTs (strictly no-no for us) and no spare tyre (another no for us). The ride was harsh due to RFTs and stiff suspension. I soon lost interest and when told that it is on one year waiting, the decision was clear. Rejected. GLC: Wifey had soft corner for MB and somewhere I also agree to this. When we were kids, luxury car meant MB. So felt good that we are going to try the MB (second time. We tried while purchasing X1 also). GLC is much better than GLA in many aspects. We were treated promptly at the showroom and offered coffee. Although we had the appointment, the car was not immediately available which was ok with us. We enjoyed coffee with cookies here too. Had discussion about various loan facilities, maintenance packages and extended warranty. Good to know that MB offers 10 years maintenance package. Our car arrived and we commenced the test drive. There was no restriction on the test drive and we were told to drive as per our requirement. Nice. The car’s interiors really look ubercool and modern and not overdone (I still feel ambient lighting is over the top for me). Ride was very comfortable and most of the bad patches were quietly absorbed. However, I did not enjoy the driving. Even in sports mode, the throttle response was not accurate. Twice the engine roared too much without any increase in power. Never happened with my X1. Even in comfort mode, you floored the pedal and the beast will never disappoint you. Heck, it never happened in Eco mode too. The car, as a whole, offered little more than X1 like better interiors, massaging seats (it was good in my second test drive), central console, manual thigh support, ambient lighting, slightly better music system and very comfortable ride quality. However, I did not find it worthy of an upgrade. The car also comes with integrated running boards which I found fouling while stepping out and in. At least I did not find it useful in this size of car. At this price point, I wanted more. I also had in mind that new version of GLC will be announced soon after C class. But wifey was almost sold on it. XC60: It was never on mind but I had a soft spot for it somewhere back in the mind. So, this time, I asked my wife that we will try Volvo too. She was also surprised but was quickly ready for the same. So we paid visit to Scandia Volvo, Mathura Road, in mid afternoon after the test drive of GLC. The moment we enter the showroom, I saw Thunder Gray XC60 standing their in all royalty. I was smitten by its looks at the first glance itself. Upon entering the car, I was almost sold pending the driving experience. Wifey found it little big than GLC in looks but was equally impressed with the interiors and build quality. Volvo showrooms generally showcase contribution of Volvo in safety aspects. Wifey on reading those stories had also made up her mind as we both were looking for a safe car. Within 15 minutes, test drive was arranged for us. That was quite impressive. We, all in all, took 4 TDs of the vehicle out of which one was more than an hour comprising of city traffic and Greater Noida Expressway run. We were very impressed with the features offered by XC60. It is still no equivalent to X1 in driving dynamics, but in no sense a slouch. It was way better than what we had already tested and a genuine upgrade from X1. It has no driving modes (yes you read it correctly). You simply drive and when you need that surge you put your foot (right one !!) down and the car does the rest. The features and creature comforts offered in this price band far exceeds the competitors. We finally zero down on this and decided to go ahead with XC60 mild hybrid. Booking Experience Booking experience was weird. The initial SA, who was attached to us from beginning and had been very professional and forthcoming while arranging test drives , a day after taking booking cheque from us from our home, called me to not to book it as car is having issues such as sudden stop, parking sensor to name a few. To cut the long story short and keep the negativity at bay, we feel that were played by him as he he resigned on the same day. And our booking was delayed. Finally, car was booked on 9th May, 2022. We were sold on Thunder Grey color but that had no availability for another four months. We did not want to wait so long as we had already sold our X1 and we were without car for our road trips. So white with amber interiors was booked. We were promised delivery by end of June. First Delivery Experience The car was delivered to us on June 23rd, 2022. An email invite was sent to me on the previous evening confirming delivery. We, very excitedly, reached the showroom around 17:30 hrs and they were ready with all the paper works. There was a small ceremony comprising of cake cutting, unveiling of the car followed by box of chocolates and flower pot. A proud moment and a very nice feeling. We both were elated and jumping with joy. The whole delivery process took about 40 minutes. Fast and efficient. The car was spotlessly clean including engine bay, all promised accessories (mud flap and mats) installed. All controls were functional. The car has done about 8 kms. Took the car straight to mandir for pooja. It took us approximately 35 minutes to reach the mandir in the choco-block of evening traffic. During the drive, I felt that engine is making more noise than required and somehow car was not smooth to drive (first signal ignored by us). I checked with wifey whether the TD car was also making that much noise and she confirmed no. The TD was much smooth and silent. I thought may be the Google drivetrain logic issue and ignored it to enjoy the happy moments. But I made a point and informed my SA at Scandia who also told me not to worry and if it persists, I can bring the car for check-up later (because next day, we had planned a short trip to Rajasthan). Satisfied, I ignored it but at the back of my mind it was always there. Unfortunately, the pooja also could not be completed because of Thursday, mandir was overflowing with crowd and there was no parking nearby. We went home without pooja (second signal which was also ignored). Next day morning, we left for our two days road trip to Rajasthan, ultra-excited but I had that annoying feeling at the back of my mind. Car was not smooth during this drive too. To cut the long story short, the car developed a snag (can’t revel that) and we had to abort the trip. The car was towed back to service station (the first in my life). We were very very disappointed. During our selection process, I was very vocal with wife that do not want a car that can left us stranded or is unreliable. For me, peace of mind is most important. And here we are staring at the very same issue I did not want to happen to us. But the good part is Volvo India took care of us right from the beginning. Volvo RSA was constantly in touch with us and updating us the time frame when the cab will arrive. I was reluctant to leave the vehicle there but RSA assured me that it is now Volvo’s problem and not ours. We were impressed and relieved that at such moments at least somebody is on our side and taking care to resolve the issue. Scandia motors were also very helpful and understanding. They also had dispatched loaner car from their showroom and we were also offered to take it to our forward journey but I guess you will agree that this was not an option for us. Together they proved that we are really part of Volvo family. They inspected the car next day and told us the fault and assured us that it will be fixed. However, we were not happy with the sequence and the snag in a new car. We asked Volvo India to replace our car with a new piece. I myself was not convinced as car was already registered (temporary) on my name and loan papers were through. However, Volvo replaced our car!! Hats off to them to stand with their customer and taking extra initiative to satisfy us. Volvo along with Scandia, took care of everything and our new car was approved and delivered within 30 days. I would like to highlight here that not even once, we had to raise our voice at any moment or write any harsh communication. Everyone involved were very polite, professional and understanding. Reading all the horror stories of other manufacturer’s, this was extraordinary for us and Volvo has won a customer for the lifetime. Last edited by deepak_bajaj : 26th September 2022 at 15:08. |
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24th September 2022, 17:29 | #2 |
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| re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid The Second Delivery Experience The new car was delivered to us on 28th July, 2022. This time car was run for about 80kms. We denied any kind of ceremony as we were very skeptical with a fear at the back of our head. But Scandia did not let us go without the chocolate box and plant. A very sweet gesture from their end. We drove the car and took it straight to mandir again. This time, the car was butter smooth and there was no noise from the engine bay. A day after, we took it on a short 500km drive to test the car and we were satisfied that that old problem was not present in the car. We were happy again. Pooja completed at mandir General Keeping the negative aside, let’s talk about the car, the Volvo XC60. Volvo has stopped producing diesel engines and they are shifting to petrol with an aim to end ICE by 2030. The car looks royal, big yet not overly big like Fortuner or Endeavour. I love the car from all the angles especially when viewed from front. The car looks really long from the side profile. The car comes with AWD which is managed by the system. I have not got the chance or opportunity to test it. The amber interiors look luxurious with perforated Nappa Leather on the seats and door. The fit, finish and quality of material used is excellent. They have used real crystal on the gear knob with a small LED light inside that produces faint glow in the night. The small Swedish flags on the seat look cute. The interiors feel very plush and distinctive from the three Germans. The cabin is very silent and cuts you off from the outside completely but for the honking from trucks or nearby cars. You are into your own zone and you can peacefully have a conversation or listen to your premium sound system. The tyre noise and wind noise are very much in check and up to 120 kmph, the cabin remains silent. Very silent. Volvo has not provided under hood lining in the engine bay because of a petrol engine but I feel adding that noise absorbing lining can bring down the NVH to even lower degrees. There no vibrations or noises felt in the cabin. Very slight vibrations are felt sometimes on the pedals due to road undulaions. The seats are very comfortable both at back and front. The front seats are 16 ways adjustable (driver as well as passenger) with five massage options and are both ventilated and heated. I have not checked heating but ventilation is a boon in summer. We took the test drives in mid-afternoon with temperature soaring above 45 degrees. Our back and bottom were in total comfort due to ventilated seats. During this 2,500km run, the ventilated seats have been blessing. Both front seats are offered with memory storage for up to two settings. The massage functions are not gimmick and are really useful during long drives especially lower back and wave. The lumbar support is excellent and has helped in reducing my leg pain during long drives. The extended thigh support also helps. The leather fees very soft to the skin and seats are soft and firm. The four zone AC chills the car in no time and without having to increase fan speed above three. The rear has AC vents on the door pillar as well as on central console. Each passenger can adjust the temperature independently. The reclining angle of the rear seats along with broad armrest makes you comfortable in no time. There could be little more thigh support at back but it is not bad. You will not feel tired. During my last trip of approx. 300 km one way, my mother-in-law slept like a baby in the rear. The Bowers and Wilkins sound system is mind boggling. The 1100w, 14 speaker system including sub-woofer can put any home theatre to shame. My wife, who is not a music buff to understand sound quality but within five seconds of playing music, she was sold. She herself told that it sounds better than our Bose system at home. And she was sitting at the rear and music was being played using Bluetooth (low quality). I have never heard such a system in any car and I love music. This has been a significant upgrade for both of us in terms of music quality. The music sound little better at front but the rear is equally impressive. With support for wired car play, the lossless music through Apple music sounds brilliant. Driving Experience The driving experience is a mixed bag in comparison to X1. The car has no drive modes and works best when pushed slowly in a liner manner. If you put your foot down, the car takes about a second to react and then sudden surge of power. The power is then delivered linearly. I never found overtaking an issue at highways or in city. You do not need to plan for overtakes. The best way I have found is to build up speed in linear fashion, with increasing accelerator input steadily. If you suddenly push it down, the power surge will be nonlinear and engine would be loud. The passengers would be jolted and pushed back to their seats. The suspension is on softer side and unlike X1, the suspension remains busy on highways. There is small up-down movement even with slight undulations on the road. The X1 was compliant due to its stiffer chassis and suspension and there was no “springy” feeling. The ride is by no means uncomfortable or irritating but due to my X1 background, I feel it more. My wife is comfortable. The side-ways movements are very controlled but you cannot attack corners like X1. The car is not meant for that purpose. I tried few times but then backed off when I did not get the response from the car. But it also does not mean that you need to slow it down like a body on frame SUV. The overall experience is satisfactory and ride quality is good not plush. Unlike X1, small bumps and potholes are quietly absorbed and are not felt in the cabin. The car came fitted with Michelin Latitude Sport 3. The tyres are on softer side and absorb bumps and pot holes silently. These may also be the reason for soft comfortable ride, low noise but no corner handling and “springy” feeling. Last edited by deepak_bajaj : 24th September 2022 at 17:32. |
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24th September 2022, 17:50 | #3 |
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| re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid Below is summary of my observations during the 2500 km drive categorized into various sections. These are listed down to help understand the car in a short glance by existing new owners and upcoming owners. General
Driving Experience
Exterior
Interiors
Driver Assistance Systems
Things I Miss in XC60
Conclusion The car feels royal especially from back and front. It is a true luxury car with all the creature comforts you would expect at this price point and which are largely ignored by the German trio. We are loving it and started to enjoy it. It sure turns less heads but that works for me. Less attention. The car is very comfortable, smooth and pampering. To top it all, Volvo India customer support and support from Scandia Motors have been excellent. I cannot ask for more. Both are very professional, humble, and courteous. My wife had gone to the Scandia workshop for installing the dash cam. They had sent the driver without any fuss. Their customer relationship manager Ms. Purnima not only offered tea coffee but lunch and that too multiple times. Not only her, the whole team extended the hospitality that is unheard and experienced before by us. All these gestures instill confidence in the brand and reaffirms your purchase decision. We highly recommend this car to those who can look beyond “Pure Driving Pleasure!”. It has its own shortcomings (Google is hopeless as of now but manageable) but as the saying goes, no car is perfect. This car is like your elder sister who pampers you a lot and keeps you comfortable and in check. She is the intelligent, sophisticated and well-mannered lady who everyone praises. While X1 was like your naughty younger sister who is always ready with a mischief and brings a smile on your face due to her actions. She is not subtle and full of energy and can land you in trouble if not handled properly. You need to decide which one you prefer. I have moved on to elder sister. PS: Or maybe not… Trivia On the evening of the delivery day, we went to CP to enjoy the car. During parking time, I found a space between two cars which was sufficient but you know the new car safety and pampering bug, I felt that space is not adequate and the side cars, while opening their doors might hit my new car. One of car was Kia Carnival while the other one I don’t remember. So I was discussing with the parking assistant if I can be provided another spot with more space. This was going on for 2-3 minutes at around 23:20 hours. The parking guy gave up and told my wife (who had got down to scout for some other spot), “madam aapse zyada mhengi gadi (Kia Carnival) khadi hai. Use aapse zyada chinta hogi gadi ki” (Madam, the car besides you, Kia Carnival is more expensive than yours and its owner will be more mindful of his car than your). I could not stop laughing while my wife was about to jump on him for how dare he said Kia is more expensive than Volvo. I somehow persuaded her to let it go and parked my car in the very same spot. Two things I learned from it:
Thank you all for being patient to read this review and I sincerely hope that this might come handy fellow bhpians. Last edited by deepak_bajaj : 26th September 2022 at 21:07. |
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27th September 2022, 07:25 | #4 |
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27th September 2022, 08:59 | #5 |
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| Re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid Hearty congratulations on a wonderful value for money buy. You won't regret it says my experience of almost 8 years. It has reliability written all over it. In almost 8 years and 88,000 kms my XC60 has given me only one non-scheduled maintenance event and even then we could drive it to the authorized service centre right then and resolve it in 2 hours and be back home. On that occasion the Manager of the A.S.C. listened to the engine sound over my drivers cellphone and correctly diagnosed what was the problem and gave the correct instructions on what precaution to take as it is was driven to the service station!* This is service the Germans don't care for. That pearl white colour you've selected is beautiful with its shimmering effect. And the interiors are a generation ahead of my older model. That auto brake is really useful in hamari Dilli's traffic where two wheeler riders cut suddenly in an attempt to commit suicide. Many happy and safe miles to you. Welcome to the Volvo fan club. V.Narayan PS: We need more photographs. :-) including of the interiors. * post number 325 at https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-...ml#post5408037 Last edited by V.Narayan : 27th September 2022 at 09:05. |
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27th September 2022, 10:32 | #6 |
Senior - BHPian | Re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid Many Congratulations. However, to have a brand new luxury car break down and then to be replaced!! I am really not really sure if that speaks positively or negatively about the company. I for one would never be able to trust even the replaced car blindly and would always have that in the back of my mind. Cheers... |
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27th September 2022, 12:09 | #7 |
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| Re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid As someone who is an absolutely brand new to the xc60 club, I am truly delighted to read this in-depth review. Thank you very much for this effort; you’ve left no stone unturned ! I spent 5 years with a V40 cross country before taking the decision to upgrade to the XC60 last month. My experience with Volvo was basically perfect. Apart from regular service, I’ve only sent it in once to fix rat damage to parking sensor wiring. |
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27th September 2022, 12:36 | #8 |
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| Re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid Congratulations and welcome to the Club. You will enjoy your Volvo and it would be very hard to look at other cars once you are used to its safety aids and creature comforts. Now enjoy your road trips and wish you many happy miles! |
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27th September 2022, 12:44 | #9 |
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| Re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid Many congratulations on the new car! the new 2L turbo petrol feels good to drive and the acceleration is brisk. what was the nature of damage on the first car? was it the engine/turbo issue? |
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27th September 2022, 15:20 | #10 | |
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| Re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid Quote:
I also wonder why the details of the issue have not been revealed. A non disclosure agreement perhaps? | |
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27th September 2022, 15:23 | #11 |
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| Re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid Congratulations on the new car, one of the few luxury SUVs where I find the white shade to be smashing! Would be great if you can share some pics on the interiors of the car. |
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| Re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid Since its a mild hybrid I guess there would be a marginal increase in the fuel efficiency. I would like to know it's Fuel economy in the City and the Highway. |
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27th September 2022, 18:11 | #13 | |
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| Re: Our Crystal White Pearl Volvo XC60 AWD, Mild Hybrid Quote:
I'm not associated with Volvo but find their cars aspirational but might never be able to afford one. | |
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Sure. I will take some time but I will definitely post here. I will share another option with you shortly. Thanks for your wishes. Quote:
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I tried penning down my observations so that it can come handy to potential buyers. Good to know you liked it. Thanks. Quote:
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