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Old 11th June 2023, 19:08   #16
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Re: 2021 Kia Sonet GTX+ DCT | Ownership Review | Cruising for 2 Years, 15,000 kms!

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But that's a 88.5 (breeza) vs 118 horses (Sonet). I am assuming the torque figures don't matter in such a scenario till the turbo kicks in? (I know nothing of these things.)
What you are saying is the power (bhp/horses), which is more like how quickly the car can move. And torque (Nm) is how strong the car can push.

What matters here is the torque and the Brezza ZDI diesel engine makes 200Nm at the lowest 1750 rpm. However the Sonet, being a small turbo petrol, only makes 170Nm at the peak, 4000 rpm. So the torque generated before the turbo kicks in would be much lower.

These things may be tricky to understand when you read, only a test drive can give you better clarity. I knew most of these things and even then I realised the extent of this issue only after owning the car.

Please test drive the 1.0 TGDI DCT on similar roads, and also try reversing on inclined areas slowly and then you’ll understand the problem better. You can ask for extended test drives as well.

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Guess I'll have someone stand next to the car placing stones to keep it from rolling back.
No, you won’t face that issue here as Sonet is equipped with Hill Assist. The car won’t roll back in such a situation. The only issue here is that you will have to push the pedal a bit harder and then turbo kicks in but the acceleration may not be smooth. It’s totally fine on normal curvy inclines were you have enough space to move. The problem is when the road is narrow and you want to move very slowly.

Attaching a picture of one the road I’m talking about, it’s more about the surrounding space than the steep. The road width here is just ~30cms more than the car. The car will easily go up if you push the pedals but in some situations you’d want the car to move slowly.

One other place I found it challenging is an S-like road from a basement parking with just the car width plus ~30cms.
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Old 11th June 2023, 20:17   #17
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Re: 2021 Kia Sonet GTX+ DCT | Ownership Review | Cruising for 2 Years, 15,000 kms!

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What you are saying is the power (bhp/horses), which is more like how quickly the car can move. And torque (Nm) is how strong the car can push.

What matters here is the torque and the Brezza ZDI diesel engine makes 200Nm at the lowest 1750 rpm. However the Sonet, being a small turbo petrol, only makes 170Nm at the peak, 4000 rpm. So the torque generated before the turbo kicks in would be much lower...
Which is going to suck. However the one or two places like that are the kinds which I can avoid to a certain degree.

What isn't great is that I am buying the car in the NCR and those places are in Shimla. And even if I were in Shimla, there is no way the dealerships would allow me to take it to those places anyway.

I don't know what the power to weight ratio of an alto is, because I manage to take it to these places. But I got my 2008 TD Verna stuck once, and it wasn't a pretty sight. At all.

I guess only time will tell when it comes to these outlier situations as well as its performance at altitudes above 12,000 ft. Hope it doesn't let us down!
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Which is going to suck. However the one or two places like that are the kinds which I can avoid to a certain degree.
You really don't have to avoid such places, it's just that it's not a smooth experience. The car can definitely manage.

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What isn't great is that I am buying the car in the NCR and those places are in Shimla. And even if I were in Shimla, there is no way the dealerships would allow me to take it to those places anyway.
Maybe you can find a steep road in the NCR itself and take a test drive there. Trying to slowly move on an incline or say reversing on an incline, or even reversing over a hump will help you to understand this case.
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Old 14th April 2024, 23:05   #19
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Re: 2021 Kia Sonet GTX+ DCT | Ownership Review | Cruising for 2 Years, 15,000 kms!

Update: 3 Years, 20,000 Kms!



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Another fuss-free year. No rattles, squeaks, or creaks, and mostly drives and behaves just like it did on day one. We've driven a few other cars and still feel like Sonet is custom-made for us.

Observations

- No DCT heating issues or errors, touchwood!
- I'm a bit concerned about carbon buildup in the engine. I've noticed very mild jerking on steep inclines at low speeds occasionally.
- I haven't noticed any fading of cladding yet. I'm unsure if it's due to the ceramic coating or because I mostly park indoors.
- The rear armrest occasionally slips off; it was quite difficult to put it back until I figured out the locking mechanism.
- It'd have been very nice if I could reply to an SMS with voice. The app already does speech-to-text conversion decently.
- I continue to get scratches on my car during services, this time by the fender protector used by the service center.

Third Year Service

The third-year service was mostly general inspections, oil and filter changes, and additionally, brake fluid replacement. The rear suspension was making some squeaky noise at times, so I got all the suspensions lubricated. They've also replaced the headlamp moisture absorbent on my request as it was holding moisture.

Front Bumper Repainting

There were a few small scratches on the front bumper and skid plate over the last two years. Although my initial reaction after the first scratch was to fix it immediately, I've decided to clear the scratches once every two years. So, I got it done for around ₹9k at the Kia Bodyshop. I couldn't claim insurance since the scratches were on both sides.

First Ceramic Coating Maintenance

I have the 5-year ceramic coating package from Esperto, and it has been almost 1.5 years since the coating was applied. The repainted bumper and the rear bumper cladding were freshly coated, along with a complete top-up coat.

Fastag Replacement

My car originally had the Paytm Fastag from the dealership, and I was quite happy with it. However, I had to switch to another one due to the Paytm bank shutdown. I bought the ICICI Fastag since I already had their mobile app. The ICICI Fastag works fine, apart from the clunky app interface and slow SMS alerts.

Insurance Renewal

I renewed both the third-party and own damage policy with Kia Safety. I couldn't find a better quote elsewhere that included all the necessary add-ons. I've opted for all the available add-ons except the tyre cover.

Kia Connect Renewal

My Kia Connect subscription is ending next week, and I'm renewing it for another three years with the basic plan for ₹7k.

Kia Inspiring Drive Program

Kia recently launched a new service to score and gamify safety and economy. However, it seems more like an early beta version. The placement of the feature in the app itself isn't great; it opens a link in a popup. It worked the first week of March but I don't see any recent trips.

I'm ending the update with a couple of reports.

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Kia Connect Renewal Update

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My Kia Connect subscription is ending next week, and I'm renewing it for another three years with the basic plan for ₹7k.
Even though I planned to renew Kia Connect with the basic plan, I chose the premium plan because it included 200km of repatriation for the vehicle. But the renewal certificate I received says 100 kms instead of the 200 kms on the website. I raised a request for clarification, thinking they'd fix the certificate. After several follow-ups, I received a call yesterday saying the renewal certificate is correct and the website is wrong. However, the official website still says 200km repatriation.

The certificate:

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Website (as on 4th May 2024):

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