Palio 1.3 MJD Test Driven and Ripped.

phamilyman · 13th March 2008, 15:20

that seems to be a decent review. But why no option for a ZDi equivalent? :|

GTO · 13th March 2008, 15:35

Going by the two reports so far, is it safe to conclude that MUL has done a better job of shoe-horning the MJD into the Swift than Fiat did with the Palio?

GSMINC · 13th March 2008, 15:43

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Originally Posted by GTO

Going by the two reports so far, is it safe to conclude that MUL has done a better job of shoe-horning the MJD into the Swift than Fiat did with the Palio?

GTO,
I definitely agree with you.
Maruti seems to have done a better job with a Fiat engine Than Fiat themselves.

finneyp · 13th March 2008, 15:48

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Originally Posted by GTO

Going by the two reports so far, is it safe to conclude that MUL has done a better job of shoe-horning the MJD into the Swift than Fiat did with the Palio?

Too early to say that, we need to wait for some Ownership reports to come to any conclusion....!

Technocrat · 13th March 2008, 16:02

nice review. I think another important factor is the mileage that the Palio will return as this is Swift D's major strong point

spadival · 13th March 2008, 16:07

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Originally Posted by phamilyman

But why no option for a ZDi equivalent? :|

I think idea behind it is that you will have to consider the entire TATA FIAT range and pick the nearest ZDi equivalent among Tata Indica and Fiat Palio models

.. Otherwise, the pricing/branding guys at Tata-Fiat will go completely beserk.

abhibh · 13th March 2008, 16:22

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

nice review. I think another important factor is the mileage that the Palio will return as this is Swift D's major strong point

Mileage will be same as swift. On asking the Sales guy he said that it will return 18 - 20 with AC easily on highways and within city depending upon traffic conditions 16 - 18 with AC.

Technocrat · 13th March 2008, 16:29

Yes considering the fact that both sport the same engine they should return identical mileage. But other things like body weight & gear ratios will have an impact so I will wait for owner experiences than rely on what the sales guy says.

PatienceWins · 13th March 2008, 16:30

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Originally Posted by abhibh

Mileage will be same as swift. On asking the Sales guy he said that it will return 18 - 20 with AC easily on highways and within city depending upon traffic conditions 16 - 18 with AC.

It should not be much different from Swift considering that the weight and torque are marginally less with the same engine.
Sales guys are like talking parrots. They would just say what was taught to them.

FERRO · 13th March 2008, 16:31

I only hope Fiat don't screw up in mileage department this time with Palio MJD otherwise it will be laughing stock of the town. returning an average of 9 kmpl

CaAT · 13th March 2008, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Firebird

Should I hold back my horses...??

A mamoth task, considering you have 100 of them!

Seriously, your monthly running does not warrant a change in car, and definitely not 1.3 MJD in lieu of 1.6 Sports.

Firebird · 13th March 2008, 18:43

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Originally Posted by CaAT

A mamoth task, considering you have 100 of them!

Very true mate....now I am feeling blessed that I joined TBHP....

Mpower · 13th March 2008, 19:12

Now this engine although same design is not coming out of the same factory right as Maruti right? How about the transmission and gear ratios?

abhibh · 13th March 2008, 19:45

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Now this engine although same design is not coming out of the same factory right as Maruti right?

Yes it is not coming out of same factory and the engine produces ~1BHP less than Swift DDiS

1100D · 13th March 2008, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

Yes Amit, I do. I know for a fact that the accelerator and the brake are so close together in the Palio that one can easily hit both of them together. Or maybe I just have really big feet.

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Originally Posted by PatienceWins

But in terms of ergonomics the main pain points were:
The pedals are very close.

Some (very few) actually like that pedal placement (Even after having the same shoe size as mentioned). It is aligned to the enthusiast/sporty appeal that Palio (For that matter many Fiats) banked on. The moment I swivelled my heel fulcruming on the toe on the brake pedal, I knew this was Fiat as we knew it.
We are happy that at least one company still cares for those select few. As for the rest, well the whole world is open.

13th March 2008, 15:20	#61
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	that seems to be a decent review. But why no option for a ZDi equivalent? :\|
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13th March 2008, 15:35	#62
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,501 Thanked: 300,629 Times View My Garage	Going by the two reports so far, is it safe to conclude that MUL has done a better job of shoe-horning the MJD into the Swift than Fiat did with the Palio?
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13th March 2008, 16:02	#65
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	nice review. I think another important factor is the mileage that the Palio will return as this is Swift D's major strong point
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13th March 2008, 16:29	#68
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Yes considering the fact that both sport the same engine they should return identical mileage. But other things like body weight & gear ratios will have an impact so I will wait for owner experiences than rely on what the sales guy says.
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13th March 2008, 16:31	#70
FERRO BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 313 Thanked: 2 Times	I only hope Fiat don't screw up in mileage department this time with Palio MJD otherwise it will be laughing stock of the town. returning an average of 9 kmpl
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13th March 2008, 19:12	#73
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	Now this engine although same design is not coming out of the same factory right as Maruti right? How about the transmission and gear ratios?
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