[Akshay1234]

Originally Posted by LLL

Yes, i checked the specs and it says manual ORVMs. But how do i move them? There is no lever and i tried to move the mirrors (not the casing) by hand and they wont budge.

you just have to move them with your hand. lol. but once you adjust them believe me youll never have to adjust them again. unless someone else messes it up.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by jaysmokesleaves

I guess if there was such a section in the manual for running in instructions, then i have ignored the nonsense. I follow the hard running in method which to me means driving it hard through the gears to free the engine up myself rather than waiting for christmas for it to oblige.

So, either the engineers who built your car know nothing about it, or are ill-wishers of their engine?

[jaysmokesleaves]

Originally Posted by GTO

So, either the engineers who built your car know nothing about it, or are ill-wishers of their engine?

Ans 1 > Half the answer to that is found in your signature and the rest half im working on!

Ans 2 > I dont think they trust their own engine design or maybe they still harbour 2 decade old views and apply the same to modern engines.

Ans 3 > Iam a firm believer in Murphys law. If it has to fall apart , it will.(then i have the warranty).

Ans 4 > Read my signature!

[LLL]

ON the run-in...i am running in a car for the 3rd time and am a firm believer in running in. I have already started to feel the gears becoming smoother to change. Initially, engaging reverse was a chore, but now its easier to engage reverse. In another 1k kms, it will be smooth like butter. (santro has a better gear though).

[Akshay1234]

LLL - since busa hasnt been here in a while i shall ask you this. When are you peteing it?

[GTO]

Originally Posted by jaysmokesleaves

Ans 1 > Half the answer to that is found in your signature and the rest half im working on!

Witty

Ans 2 > I dont think they trust their own engine design or maybe they still harbour 2 decade old views and apply the same to modern engines.

I have yet to see a single auto manufacturer who recommends *drive as you please at high rpms* in the initial life of the engine. On the other hand, there are atleast 20 owners manuals that I have seen, including Japanese / Indian / European / American manufacturers, who strongly suggest a proper running-in procedure.

I am going to trust the car manufacturers guidelines, since they do know a thing or two about their engines. Also remember that its not only the engine which requires a running-in period; the brakes, tyres, transmission etc. need it too.

Ans 3 > Iam a firm believer in Murphys law. If it has to fall apart , it will.(then i have the warranty).

Its your money and your car. But then, maybe we ought to believe in the Murphys law for all areas of life and simply stop taking precautionary measures like Airbags, ABS, insurance or even door locks at our house.

[wheelsNsqueals]

Hey LLL, how's your Innova going now? I am planning to move to a diesel vehicle from City ZX. I have never owned a diesel vehicle before. Due to paucity of time, I could only do a short TD of Innova G4 recently and found the drive quite comfortable. Plan to do a thorough TD later this week. Ease of driving was good. Only thing I did not like was the gear shift. It rattled a lot on cranking ( is that normal with diesel?), shifting was little tough, reverse shift needed some practice and it looks too long..like in bus. Otherwise I liked the Innova, though Toyota could have given stuff like alloys, ABS etc at the G4 level, since it is quite a costly car at 11 lacs in Mumbai. Any ideas about standard discounts available on Innova G4?