Passion Red Getz CRDi - Update - impressions post 2nd Service & Pete's Box

trtraj · 18th February 2009, 20:28

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Originally Posted by headers

Dont you think one should stick to the same bunk if one's car is sensitive to the quality of Fuel? Trying different bunks would only increase the blockage in the filters as no two bunks have the same purity of fuel, IMO

You get max mileage at the turbo boost and at the peak of your engine's torque curve. One would not get more just because he does not let the turbo on boost!

Headers, I tried once in Bangalore-Chennai drive without shooting turbo (less than 2000RPM) and my Getz given me a surprise. 19+ Kmpl. IMO turbo eventually takes more fuel.

iraghava · 18th February 2009, 21:15

Yup, engine oil becoming black almost as soon as it is refilled is normal.

SS-Traveller · 18th February 2009, 21:28

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Originally Posted by trtraj

...even just after service the Oil will look black.

I still see the old black color. Can anyone advice me whether this is normal in CRDi engines?

As soon as the oil is changed, and before you start up and drive out of the service station (i.e., before the engine runs more than a just a few minutes), lift the dipstick and check oil colour. If it is the colour of normal oil or has a slight blackish tinge (but cleaner than the oil you went to change), that's fresh oil. If it's black, like it was before you changed, the dealer is pulling a fast one on you. This involves draining your old oil, leaving one litre of the old oil there, then filling up with new oil. So, they'll bill you for, say, 4 litres, but actually fill 3L - 1L of the old oil stays behind.

Used to be almost a standard operating procedure at a lot of Tata dealerships (as confessed by a friend working there), and I'm sure other dealers' service centres do it too.

Once you've driven the car 1-2 km, you can't tell anymore if it's totally fresh oil or not. The colour turns black like it was before.

WasavaTyres · 18th February 2009, 21:31

Discolouration of oil is normal in diesel engines trtaj, don;t lose sleep over it.

Nikhilb2008 · 18th February 2009, 21:39

Why do you want to upsize to 205? IT wont make any major difference oveer 195/55-15. 195 section tyres are good enough to keep the beast on the road methinks.

trtraj · 18th February 2009, 22:35

Thanks for the response, I was scratching my head that how it is possible when the oil is changed and the engine is flushed.

Now am sure that Flushing is just adding up 350Rs in my bill.

Once again Thanks for the responders.

d3mon · 18th February 2009, 23:55

@Anarchist
Those are one of the best alloys I have ever seen, period. Wish they were a little cheaper though.

How much did you shell out for the pete's kit ?

Silver Knight · 19th February 2009, 01:08

I would like to reveal some shocking facts about lubricants and oil changes in Authorised Service Centers.

1. Profit they make on lubricants ranges from 80 to 150% !!!! even if fully changed

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2. Many A*S*S use inferior grades and cheap oils.
3. Some of them even don’t change oil as mentioned in the earlier post. Replace only 1 Litre or a part of it.
4. Local brands are plenty in lubricants.
5. Some use one type of oil for Petrol and diesel cars.
6. Its near to impossible to differentiate a good quality and bad quality lubricant
7. Some even use recycled oil

BTW I work for a lubricant company.

ScorpMan · 19th February 2009, 13:58

Congrats Man.. The Car Looks Burning Hot... especially with th Lenso Wheels n Tyres

anarchist · 25th March 2009, 13:29

Hi, some updates on my car....
Got K&N Stock replacement filter installed from Hot Tracks, Bangalore. Was surprisingly told that they dont have stock replacement filter from Greens for the Getz CRDI :(. Anyways very happy with the change in acceleration seen during low rpm's and with the Pete's Box the difference is significant

Extremely happy with the car.

anarchist · 25th March 2009, 13:32

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Originally Posted by d3mon

@Anarchist
Those are one of the best alloys I have ever seen, period. Wish they were a little cheaper though.

How much did you shell out for the pete's kit ?

Thanks it cost me Rs. 20k

djay99 · 25th March 2009, 16:19

Now your car got over 130BHP and 270NM. You will have to be very careful when driving in city

How much did you pay for K&N filter? The Green cotton filter costs around 4K in bangalore.

anarchist · 25th March 2009, 17:19

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Originally Posted by djay99

Now your car got over 130BHP and 270NM. You will have to be very careful when driving in city

How much did you pay for K&N filter? The Green cotton filter costs around 4K in bangalore.

Green I was told was Rs. 4200 and K&N cost me Rs. 4290/-

trtraj · 30th March 2009, 15:43

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Originally Posted by djay99

Now your car got over 130BHP and 270NM. You will have to be very careful when driving in city

How much did you pay for K&N filter? The Green cotton filter costs around 4K in bangalore.

Does Pete's makes any +ve in Mileage too?

djay99 · 30th March 2009, 18:22

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Originally Posted by trtraj

Does Pete's makes any +ve in Mileage too?

It cannot increase the average (FE) and its clear.
Since fuel injection pattern changes, more power/torque is generated but fuel burnt will be more anyday.
Since you will have more torque at lower RPM, the stress on engine is less and it looks like there is no drop in FE.

18th February 2009, 21:15	#62
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Yup, engine oil becoming black almost as soon as it is refilled is normal.
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18th February 2009, 21:31	#64
WasavaTyres BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indore Posts: 816 Thanked: 449 Times View My Garage	Discolouration of oil is normal in diesel engines trtaj, don;t lose sleep over it.
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18th February 2009, 21:39	#65
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,137 Times	Why do you want to upsize to 205? IT wont make any major difference oveer 195/55-15. 195 section tyres are good enough to keep the beast on the road methinks.
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18th February 2009, 22:35	#66
trtraj BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bangalore \ Singara Chennai Posts: 247 Thanked: 125 Times	Thanks Thanks for the response, I was scratching my head that how it is possible when the oil is changed and the engine is flushed. Now am sure that Flushing is just adding up 350Rs in my bill. Once again Thanks for the responders.
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18th February 2009, 23:55	#67
d3mon BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 914 Thanked: 4,076 Times	@Anarchist Those are one of the best alloys I have ever seen, period. Wish they were a little cheaper though. How much did you shell out for the pete's kit ?
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19th February 2009, 01:08	#68
Silver Knight BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Trichur Posts: 220 Thanked: 467 Times	Lubricants some shocking facts I would like to reveal some shocking facts about lubricants and oil changes in Authorised Service Centers. 1. Profit they make on lubricants ranges from 80 to 150% !!!! even if fully changed . 2. Many ASS use inferior grades and cheap oils. 3. Some of them even don’t change oil as mentioned in the earlier post. Replace only 1 Litre or a part of it. 4. Local brands are plenty in lubricants. 5. Some use one type of oil for Petrol and diesel cars. 6. Its near to impossible to differentiate a good quality and bad quality lubricant 7. Some even use recycled oil BTW I work for a lubricant company.
	() Thanks

19th February 2009, 13:58	#69
ScorpMan BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: DL/PB/HR Posts: 366 Thanked: 132 Times	Congrats Man.. The Car Looks Burning Hot... especially with th Lenso Wheels n Tyres
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25th March 2009, 13:29	#70
anarchist BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago / Namma Bengaluru Posts: 372 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	Hi, some updates on my car.... Got K&N Stock replacement filter installed from Hot Tracks, Bangalore. Was surprisingly told that they dont have stock replacement filter from Greens for the Getz CRDI :(. Anyways very happy with the change in acceleration seen during low rpm's and with the Pete's Box the difference is significant Extremely happy with the car. Last edited by anarchist : 25th March 2009 at 13:31.
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25th March 2009, 16:19	#72
djay99 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,475 Thanked: 544 Times View My Garage	Now your car got over 130BHP and 270NM. You will have to be very careful when driving in city How much did you pay for K&N filter? The Green cotton filter costs around 4K in bangalore.
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