A new beginning - Safari 2.2 VTT

raj_5004 · 2nd January 2009, 13:51

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Originally Posted by kkdelhi

Yes. Here is the pic. But as I mentioned earlier, I'm finding it extremely difficult to figure out where to fix the camera as the bar more or less blocks the entire portion of the bumper where the camera is supposed to be fixed. Any suggestions? How will it look on the spare wheel cover?

Attachment 84381

the camera can be fixed in the centre of the number plate.

kkdelhi · 2nd January 2009, 14:03

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

the camera can be fixed in the centre of the number plate.

Good idea. But, is that allowed? I mean, legally speaking, can you have a hole in the middle of the number plate?

raj_5004 · 2nd January 2009, 14:09

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Originally Posted by kkdelhi

Good idea. But, is that allowed? I mean, legally speaking, can you have a hole in the middle of the number plate?

yes, you can do that, i have seen it in lots of cars, provided the alphabets and numbers on the plate and clear and legible, no cop should fine you.

Dry Ice · 3rd January 2009, 20:53

Hey KK,
Have a look at this, you can follow on similar lines. The truck had exactly the same bar at the rear as yours, was of the same color too!!! For a moment I thought it was you only, then noticed the alloys. I wonder if you have upgraded your wheels and it really was YOU.
Well if it wasn't you. Heres a pic, I have not blanked the number plate, just masked the number with 8s. Just to give an idea of how the numbers looked with the camera.

KedarJ · 4th January 2009, 09:23

Hi guys, would like to introduce myself. My name is Kedar & have purchased my beast 15 days back in Pune. It has been three years since I used watch this awsome vehicle in tata showrooms. Am simply obsessed with it. Well I have bought Pearl white Ex model.

HappyWheels · 4th January 2009, 10:40

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Originally Posted by KedarJ

Hi guys, would like to introduce myself. My name is Kedar & have purchased my beast 15 days back in Pune. It has been three years since I used watch this awsome vehicle in tata showrooms. Am simply obsessed with it. Well I have bought Pearl white Ex model.

Hey Kedar,

Congrats on the new buy! Please do start a new thread on your buying experience and initial days of ownership.

Happy motoring, mate!

kkdelhi · 4th January 2009, 16:53

Rear-view camera + LCD screen installed on the Safari yesterday. Thanks tsk for pointing out where to look. Thanks raj_5004 for your brilliant idea and thanks Dry Ice for reconfirming that I got the camera fixed at the right spot. Had to do a lot of hit and trial with camera placed in hand and trying to see where it could be fixed on the number plate so that the rear guard does not block the vision. The guy marked the circle, but suddenly realized that the camera would be placed above that marking because there is a 2-inch base to the camera that when goes inside the plate & bumper would have a larger view and the view would be blocked again by the rear guard. All in all, satisfied that the equipment got fixed at the right spot.

It's a night-vision VGA camera, with 7-inch LCD (TFT screen) with touchscreen controls and a remote. Checked and rechecked if the image was clear on the screen before leaving shop. Also checked a VCD that played well on the screen.

The screen has a plastic film on it so the normal rear viewing is not so clear (may be if I pull the sheet off...). But the camera output is amazingly clear. It shouldn't take me more than a couple of days to get used to the distance between the rear of the vehicle and the obstacle, if any, depending on the size of the obstacle on the LCD screen.

Here's hoping things remain fine.

Some pics...

A new beginning - Safari 2.2 VTT-rearview-camera-amended.jpg

A new beginning - Safari 2.2 VTT-rearview-camera-closeup-amended.jpg

Output at night

A new beginning - Safari 2.2 VTT-camera-output-night-amended.jpg

Output during daytime

A new beginning - Safari 2.2 VTT-camera-output-during-day.jpg

raj_5004 · 4th January 2009, 17:45

great install KK, the picture quality seems great. the only trade-off being you cant use the RVM while watching DVD, but safety-wise, you should not watch movies while driving!
how much did the setup cost you: monitor+camera+installation?

kkdelhi · 4th January 2009, 18:01

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

great install KK, the picture quality seems great. the only trade-off being you cant use the RVM while watching DVD, but safety-wise, you should not watch movies while driving!

For the life of me, I wouldn't even remotely, even in my dreams, think of watching DVD when I'm driving. No way!

On a side note, the overall screen size is larger than the size where the visuals are shown. I mean, the actual screen space (7-inch) that comes alive falls in the centre of the overall screen. So, the sides, both left and right to this 'alive' space, are free for rear viewing.

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how much did the setup cost you: monitor+camera+installation?

4.9K (for all this, plus one cable to link up the video-out from HU to the LCD).

tsk1979 · 4th January 2009, 23:10

Is the screen bluetooth? If not, it should cost 4200, unless you got a different camera model. I think he gave me a cheaper rate because I got fog lamps from him fitted, and along with that I also promised him that I will come soon for HID

kkdelhi · 5th January 2009, 22:46

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Is the screen bluetooth? If not, it should cost 4200, unless you got a different camera model. I think he gave me a cheaper rate because I got fog lamps from him fitted, and along with that I also promised him that I will come soon for HID

No, the screen is not bluetooth. He quoted a even higher price for that screen. And I don't see why camera models should be different.

@tsk: Can you PM me your contact number?

tsk1979 · 5th January 2009, 23:31

1. Firstly, the camera is fitted at the wrong place. See the plate below the number plate, thats where the OEM camera goes, and thats where you should fix yours. Anyways. thats immaterial. I suspect you got overcharged by around 200-300rs.
I bought more stuff from him, thats why kit cost was 4200rs.
He had 3 cameras 850/1050/1850
I got the cheapest one, since it served my purpose.
anyways I have pm'd you my number

PS: I got the bull guard for 3700, what about you?

WanderNomad · 6th January 2009, 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

1. Firstly, the camera is fitted at the wrong place. See the plate below the number plate, thats where the OEM camera goes, and thats where you should fix yours.

I think thats the de facto location for camera in a Safari. In case one wants to remove camera at any stage, simply buy a new plate.

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gshanky · 6th January 2009, 02:30

Since we are talking about various mods to Safari in this thread, can't help but ask this question eventhough it might be a little off topic. Please excuse.

Has any one tried replacing the jump seats in safari with a complete third row seat? If yes, then was there enough trunk space left for luggage, etc.?

Any insights into cost, location (where this is done), etc. would be of great help.

dadu · 6th January 2009, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by WanderNomad

I think thats the de facto location for camera in a Safari. In case one wants to remove camera at any stage, simply buy a new plate.

I

Yes, this is very true for rag pickers also, very easy to remove and there goes your camera along with the plate, plate costs Rs47 only.

Unless you clamp the plate on the main bumper using a hinge, its risky.

3rd January 2009, 20:53	#79
Dry Ice Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: -- Posts: 3,552 Thanked: 7,261 Times	Hey KK, Have a look at this, you can follow on similar lines. The truck had exactly the same bar at the rear as yours, was of the same color too!!! For a moment I thought it was you only, then noticed the alloys. I wonder if you have upgraded your wheels and it really was YOU. Well if it wasn't you. Heres a pic, I have not blanked the number plate, just masked the number with 8s. Just to give an idea of how the numbers looked with the camera. Attached Thumbnails
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4th January 2009, 09:23	#80
KedarJ Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi guys, would like to introduce myself. My name is Kedar & have purchased my beast 15 days back in Pune. It has been three years since I used watch this awsome vehicle in tata showrooms. Am simply obsessed with it. Well I have bought Pearl white Ex model.
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4th January 2009, 16:53	#82
kkdelhi BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 234 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	Rear-view camera + LCD screen Rear-view camera + LCD screen installed on the Safari yesterday. Thanks tsk for pointing out where to look. Thanks raj_5004 for your brilliant idea and thanks Dry Ice for reconfirming that I got the camera fixed at the right spot. Had to do a lot of hit and trial with camera placed in hand and trying to see where it could be fixed on the number plate so that the rear guard does not block the vision. The guy marked the circle, but suddenly realized that the camera would be placed above that marking because there is a 2-inch base to the camera that when goes inside the plate & bumper would have a larger view and the view would be blocked again by the rear guard. All in all, satisfied that the equipment got fixed at the right spot. It's a night-vision VGA camera, with 7-inch LCD (TFT screen) with touchscreen controls and a remote. Checked and rechecked if the image was clear on the screen before leaving shop. Also checked a VCD that played well on the screen. The screen has a plastic film on it so the normal rear viewing is not so clear (may be if I pull the sheet off...). But the camera output is amazingly clear. It shouldn't take me more than a couple of days to get used to the distance between the rear of the vehicle and the obstacle, if any, depending on the size of the obstacle on the LCD screen. Here's hoping things remain fine. Some pics... Output at night Output during daytime
	() Thanks

4th January 2009, 17:45	#83
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	great install KK, the picture quality seems great. the only trade-off being you cant use the RVM while watching DVD, but safety-wise, you should not watch movies while driving! how much did the setup cost you: monitor+camera+installation?
	() Thanks

4th January 2009, 23:10	#85
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Is the screen bluetooth? If not, it should cost 4200, unless you got a different camera model. I think he gave me a cheaper rate because I got fog lamps from him fitted, and along with that I also promised him that I will come soon for HID
	() Thanks

5th January 2009, 23:31	#87
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	1. Firstly, the camera is fitted at the wrong place. See the plate below the number plate, thats where the OEM camera goes, and thats where you should fix yours. Anyways. thats immaterial. I suspect you got overcharged by around 200-300rs. I bought more stuff from him, thats why kit cost was 4200rs. He had 3 cameras 850/1050/1850 I got the cheapest one, since it served my purpose. anyways I have pm'd you my number PS: I got the bull guard for 3700, what about you?
	() Thanks

6th January 2009, 02:30	#89
gshanky BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coimbatore / Bangalore / New York Posts: 717 Thanked: 13 Times	Since we are talking about various mods to Safari in this thread, can't help but ask this question eventhough it might be a little off topic. Please excuse. Has any one tried replacing the jump seats in safari with a complete third row seat? If yes, then was there enough trunk space left for luggage, etc.? Any insights into cost, location (where this is done), etc. would be of great help.
	() Thanks