[greenhorn]

and ask him if it came with michelin rubber as OE

[Steeroid]

Originally Posted by aaggoswami

@Steeroid:

What your friend is looking forward to is a car that is comfortable along with 4 X 4 ability ( that is what I am able to make out from the post ). Now he also has considered Innova.

This car is going to disappoint him.

Considering that the suspension is built keeping in mind the pick up bed, it is bound to be stiff. With fewer passengers, expecting a change is ride quality is natural and this again will disappoint your friend. Ask him to look at safari or Scropio.

My friend has confirmed that he will still be considering the Xenon, perhaps sometime later - I think he is expecting a price drop.

Trust me, he does know what he wants and how the vehicle fits his requirements.

[Parm]

looks very nice in the photos, but waiting for it go MM Getaway way!

i doubt if it will make sales in india, for export market it will do well, cause thats what it was made for!

[4x4addict]

Originally Posted by Parm

looks very nice in the photos, but waiting for it go MM Getaway way!

i doubt if it will make sales in india, for export market it will do well, cause thats what it was made for!

I don't think Tata ever expects it to sell in volumes like the Sumo since the market segment is limited for a pricey lifestyle pick up. But I am glad they did launch it in the market since it gives atleast two options in this segment. The Getaway and Xenon.

[Parm]

from what i have heard is that XENON is mainly aimed at export markets like africa, south america, europe and east asian countries like Thailand which is the biggest user country of double cabin pickups.

so tata and mm will delivery their xenon and getaway in india only on orders rather than bigger sale voulmes.

[dinar]

Looks good in black. Michelins are after market I think, what size are those?

[BlackPearl]

The pickup is looking very good in black. The michelins are most probably after market.

[MileCruncher]

Yes they are aftermarket as the OE is 205R16 with profile not written on them. I went to the showroom yesterday and was perplexed by the tyres as they don't have profile written on them. The tyres are marked as Tubeless Radials with 6 Ply Ratings. I always thought ply ratings were associated with Nylon Tyres and not with radials, correct me if I'm wrong.

Can anyone please shed some light on this and educate

[directinjection]

Originally Posted by MileCruncher

Yes they are aftermarket as the OE is 205R16 with profile not written on them. I went to the showroom yesterday and was perplexed by the tyres as they don't have profile written on them. The tyres are marked as Tubeless Radials with 6 Ply Ratings. I always thought ply ratings were associated with Nylon Tyres and not with radials, correct me if I'm wrong.

Can anyone please shed some light on this and educate

They must be commercial vehicle tyres which usually use a different type of designation system like 10.20, 8.25-16, etc. where the first figure refers to the aspect (distance between the tyre's outer edge and rim's edge) while the second figure refers to rim size, all figures being in inches. Did the tyres have LT written on them? LT means light truck.

[MileCruncher]

Originally Posted by directinjection

They must be commercial vehicle tyres which usually use a different type of designation system like 10.20, 8.25-16, etc. where the first figure refers to the aspect (distance between the tyre's outer edge and rim's edge) while the second figure refers to rim size, all figures being in inches. Did the tyres have LT written on them? LT means light truck.

Not Exactly. say for a tyre which says 8.25-16, it means that the tyre width is 8.25inches and the tyre dia is 16 inches. This configuration is only used for nylon non radial tyres and the tyre will also have the PLY rating which is generally either 4 or 6.

The Xenon tyres are designated as radial, tubeless 205R16. As the aspect ratio is not known which tyre to upgrade to would be difficult

[dinar]

The owners manual for 4X4 vehicle show 215/75 R16 as tyres size and for 4X2 205 R 16.
So two different sizes for the vehicle. Need to confirm, will do that when I go for at test drive.

[MileCruncher]

Originally Posted by dinar

The owners manual for 4X4 vehicle show 215/75 R16 as tyres size and for 4X2 205 R 16.
So two different sizes for the vehicle. Need to confirm, will do that when I go for at test drive.

Yeah saw that on the owners manual. Tyres are also blank, just says 205R16.

[dinar]

Got this info from Dunlop UK website.
The 205R16 are OE fitment for Hilux. the dimension given are as follows.
Possible rim size: 5.5J -6.5J
Maximum service width /diameter: 214/746
static radius +2% : 335
circumference +1.5% /-2.5% : 2230
approximately 29" rolling diameter [info from another site]
So basically these are Uk spec tyre. I have never seen such spec even on commercial tyres in India.

[dinar]

Just calculated the aspect ratio : 80 . So the tyre size is 205/80 R16 for the 4X2 xenon.

[MileCruncher]

Originally Posted by dinar

Got this info from Dunlop UK website.
The 205R16 are OE fitment for Hilux. the dimension given are as follows.
Possible rim size: 5.5J -6.5J
Maximum service width /diameter: 214/746
static radius +2% : 335
circumference +1.5% /-2.5% : 2230
approximately 29" rolling diameter [info from another site]
So basically these are Uk spec tyre. I have never seen such spec even on commercial tyres in India.

Seeing your post further also googled a bit and found that Range Rover Classic, Land Rover also had them as OE. This is what a Range Rover site had to say about these tires

The standard tires for new Range Rover Classics were the dual purpose Michelin XMS 244 -- specially developed for the vehicle (see photo at left depicting author's XMS 244 with a rock penetrating the tread). The tire was pinned for studs, and its tall, narrow 205R16 size was better suited for use in mud and snow than the wide "flotation" sizes used for aggressive looks on most off-road vehicles. The narrow footprint sinks through the soft surface to grip the harder surface underneath. (Of course, in bottomless mud, nothing works). On the other hand, these tires are not optimized for soft sand, so airing down may be needed in those conditions to increase the ground contact area. All in all, this design gave remarkable all-round performance. In 1991, the Hunter model came with 205R16 Goodyear Wrangler tires -- also a dual purpose design. These still show up occasionally -- for example a shipment came into Atlantic British in 2004.

This size is available in KUMHO, AVON mainly. I guess because the vehicle is designed mainly for international markets, TATA have tried to put their best foot forward.