Booked & Dreaming of Getz CRDI! (Now bought... Pics added)EDIT: Now Sold !

Nikhilb2008 · 31st July 2009, 16:20

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Originally Posted by djay99

Handling dude. It makes lot of difference when it comes to handling and cornering. With 15", the same car will handle in a much better way compared to 14".

I never said 195/60-14 is best for getz. Handling is not great with 14".
Side wall rubber in 195/55-15 is more compared to 205/50-15. So first will have decent ride quality and very good handling. 195 is max required for getz IMO.

FYI, i have used 195/60-14 Michelin PP1, 205/50-15 Maxxis on my getz crdi. Planning to change tires to 195/55-15 shortly.

Well, the sidewall is pretty hard in an AD07. It wont make any difference. Technically, the car is supposed to handle better because there is less rubber to flex. But with an AD07, the sidewall is pretty hard. It wont make much of a difference. But your ride comfort will be so much better.

I've tested and am using the AD07s. That is why I'm able to speak from personal experience.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1099126-post23.html

Lots of guys on the forum are using Ad07s in 195/60 R14. Kartik Kumar on his swift, Binz and Crazydiablo on their Balenos.

Ravenblood · 31st July 2009, 20:26

Sorry to hijack your thread Brraj.

Picked up a spanking new ash grey , not really a eye catching shade of paint but no option really last car available @ 4.99 price... Got it for 5.36 on-road with a remote central locking & basic accessories as freebies. will put on some pics soon.

Guys needed some help with the tyres selection upgrading to 185/65/R14 got a quote for Bridgestone G3's for 3200 per tyre & Xm1 for 3800 a tyre. the guys said he will buyback the stock tyres for 9k for 4 tyre.

Not many post recently about the G3's have they been discontinued..?? how are they compared to the Xm1, bit strapped for vitM at the moment so will the G3's be a good enough choice..???

Nikhilb2008 · 31st July 2009, 21:42

GIIIs are bad. Stay away. Go in for the XM1+ or the Yoko A drive. Yoko A drive would make more sense as it's much cheaper as well.

Ravenblood · 31st July 2009, 21:56

whats wrong with them.??? they seem to have a really good design..?? no option of Yoko's only XM1+ and GIIIs...

kpzen · 31st July 2009, 22:40

Why no option of Yokos ?
Btw i have done 34k kms with Yoko A drives.

Nikhilb2008 · 31st July 2009, 22:43

GIIIs are noisy, have a hard ride and dont grip great compared to the other performance tyres.

Go for Yokos or BS Er 60(not available in 185/65 R14 unfortunately) or Michelin. I say it's worthwhile to spend the extra money on Michelin.

djay99 · 31st July 2009, 23:32

Go for either XM1+ or Yoko A drives.

v1p3r · 1st August 2009, 03:24

First of all, Advan Neovas can be classified as 'cheater' tyres. A 195 width AD-07 will certainly be wider than, say, a 195 width Goodyear NCT. This is because these are the ultimate street tyres, and in certain motorsport events where only street tyres are allowed, every extra mm counts. So your 195mm Neova may actually be 200 or even 205mm.

Raj, I sincerely suggest you go for 205/50 R15 Neovas on the Getz. It could save your life. Nikhil, trust me on this, with the kind of power and driving style Raj's Getz is going to see, 195 just won't cut it.

BTW, if you still want 195s, I'm sacking my PP2s. :P

Thomas8700 · 1st August 2009, 09:20

dont jump over me for this.

hows it being mentioned in this thread that the AD-07 will prevent the tyres from skidding?? under hard braking.!!.

whats the logic? better grip would be there agreed aiding in handling and breaking. but not simulate ABS!!.

best bet would be to get the stock discs of getz and get it drilled from a reputed street race car builders!.
even then the tyres will lock up under hard braking but not as fast as stock discs

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try any swift with tarox rotors. it will break much better ( its just having a better thread pattern on the rotors thats all. not the drilled type. but in getz i dont think you can get rotors with better thread pattern, frilling would be better option. but finding someone wouldnt be difficult right. afterall its banglore!! )

dont try unwanted stunts with just a tyre upgrade

mclaren1885 · 1st August 2009, 11:29

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Originally Posted by Thomas8700

hows it being mentioned in this thread that the AD-07 will prevent the tyres from skidding?? under hard braking.!!.

Hunh? From personal experience? And knowing for a fact that AD-07's are probably the best tires money can buy you at the moment in this country?

Quote:

whats the logic? better grip would be there agreed aiding in handling and breaking. but not simulate ABS!!.

Have you driven a car with AD-07's? Those tires are nicknamed "chewing gums" for a very good reason.

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dont try unwanted stunts with just a tyre upgrade

Thomas, let us have a review of your statement after driving a car shod with chewing gums shall we

?

Thomas8700 · 1st August 2009, 11:42

Mclaren i have driven them!

i know they are the best option india right now. but its still not as good as ABS. thats what i meant.

yes if you compare a stock appolo accelere and AD-07 there will be tremendous increase in grip leading to better braking, yes skidding is what i also mean here but in panic situations. i don't think it will be as good as ABS. i never argued that neovas are bad!! my argument is that both having ABS and neovas on a non ABS equipped vehicle is not the same!!

another very good trick or habit is to gear down also with braking, in that way you will have the torque ready to pull you ahead with a shove when ever you brake hard in addition to better braking

and i kind of felt that the thread opener has the feeling that not having ABS can be justified by using advan neovas!! . thats not the way to putting it. its more like putting advan neovas will be taking the vehicle a step closer to the ABS standard, better rotors, break pads etc is an even further step! heck putting the neovas is also taking a step closer to TCS. but neovas cant replace ABS or TCS !!

i hope you got the crux of what i meant

Nikhilb2008 · 1st August 2009, 12:18

They are not a replacement for ABS! That's just stupid, but I've had the Advans lock up JUST ONCE on my dad's NHC Vtec. This car is without ABS. With the S322s, they used to lock at every given opportunity.

If you dont have ABS, the Advans do a good job os simulating ABS in most situations.

ph03n!x · 1st August 2009, 13:02

Here we go again, on an ABS/ non-ABS trip

Nikhilb2008 · 1st August 2009, 17:05

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Originally Posted by ph03n!x

Here we go again, on an ABS/ non-ABS trip

You've got it totally wrong! Why dont you read the posts again?

You'll realise that we're debating the merits of AD07s while braking.

ABS is good to have in ANY CAR, irrespective of which tyre is there. But in case you dont have ABS, AD07s will prevent lock up in a biiig way.

ph03n!x · 1st August 2009, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

You've got it totally wrong! Why dont you read the posts again?

Hehehe... buddy, you got me wrong- that was not meant at your response per se

31st July 2009, 20:26	#47
Ravenblood BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Goa Posts: 47 Thanked: 44 Times	Sorry to hijack your thread Brraj. Picked up a spanking new ash grey , not really a eye catching shade of paint but no option really last car available @ 4.99 price... Got it for 5.36 on-road with a remote central locking & basic accessories as freebies. will put on some pics soon. Guys needed some help with the tyres selection upgrading to 185/65/R14 got a quote for Bridgestone G3's for 3200 per tyre & Xm1 for 3800 a tyre. the guys said he will buyback the stock tyres for 9k for 4 tyre. Not many post recently about the G3's have they been discontinued..?? how are they compared to the Xm1, bit strapped for vitM at the moment so will the G3's be a good enough choice..???
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31st July 2009, 21:42	#48
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	GIIIs are bad. Stay away. Go in for the XM1+ or the Yoko A drive. Yoko A drive would make more sense as it's much cheaper as well.
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31st July 2009, 21:56	#49
Ravenblood BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Goa Posts: 47 Thanked: 44 Times	whats wrong with them.??? they seem to have a really good design..?? no option of Yoko's only XM1+ and GIIIs...
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31st July 2009, 22:40	#50
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Why no option of Yokos ? Btw i have done 34k kms with Yoko A drives.
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31st July 2009, 22:43	#51
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	GIIIs are noisy, have a hard ride and dont grip great compared to the other performance tyres. Go for Yokos or BS Er 60(not available in 185/65 R14 unfortunately) or Michelin. I say it's worthwhile to spend the extra money on Michelin.
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31st July 2009, 23:32	#52
djay99 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,475 Thanked: 544 Times View My Garage	Go for either XM1+ or Yoko A drives.
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1st August 2009, 03:24	#53
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	First of all, Advan Neovas can be classified as 'cheater' tyres. A 195 width AD-07 will certainly be wider than, say, a 195 width Goodyear NCT. This is because these are the ultimate street tyres, and in certain motorsport events where only street tyres are allowed, every extra mm counts. So your 195mm Neova may actually be 200 or even 205mm. Raj, I sincerely suggest you go for 205/50 R15 Neovas on the Getz. It could save your life. Nikhil, trust me on this, with the kind of power and driving style Raj's Getz is going to see, 195 just won't cut it. BTW, if you still want 195s, I'm sacking my PP2s. :P
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1st August 2009, 09:20	#54
Thomas8700 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: back in gods own country :) Posts: 118 Thanked: 0 Times	dont jump over me for this. hows it being mentioned in this thread that the AD-07 will prevent the tyres from skidding?? under hard braking.!!. whats the logic? better grip would be there agreed aiding in handling and breaking. but not simulate ABS!!. best bet would be to get the stock discs of getz and get it drilled from a reputed street race car builders!. even then the tyres will lock up under hard braking but not as fast as stock discs . try any swift with tarox rotors. it will break much better ( its just having a better thread pattern on the rotors thats all. not the drilled type. but in getz i dont think you can get rotors with better thread pattern, frilling would be better option. but finding someone wouldnt be difficult right. afterall its banglore!! ) dont try unwanted stunts with just a tyre upgrade
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1st August 2009, 11:42	#56
Thomas8700 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: back in gods own country :) Posts: 118 Thanked: 0 Times	Mclaren i have driven them! i know they are the best option india right now. but its still not as good as ABS. thats what i meant. yes if you compare a stock appolo accelere and AD-07 there will be tremendous increase in grip leading to better braking, yes skidding is what i also mean here but in panic situations. i don't think it will be as good as ABS. i never argued that neovas are bad!! my argument is that both having ABS and neovas on a non ABS equipped vehicle is not the same!! another very good trick or habit is to gear down also with braking, in that way you will have the torque ready to pull you ahead with a shove when ever you brake hard in addition to better braking and i kind of felt that the thread opener has the feeling that not having ABS can be justified by using advan neovas!! . thats not the way to putting it. its more like putting advan neovas will be taking the vehicle a step closer to the ABS standard, better rotors, break pads etc is an even further step! heck putting the neovas is also taking a step closer to TCS. but neovas cant replace ABS or TCS !! i hope you got the crux of what i meant
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1st August 2009, 12:18	#57
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	They are not a replacement for ABS! That's just stupid, but I've had the Advans lock up JUST ONCE on my dad's NHC Vtec. This car is without ABS. With the S322s, they used to lock at every given opportunity. If you dont have ABS, the Advans do a good job os simulating ABS in most situations.
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1st August 2009, 13:02	#58
ph03n!x Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 2,566 Thanked: 5,961 Times	Here we go again, on an ABS/ non-ABS trip
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