[scrooze]

Originally Posted by akp

Remember that figure of 14.6 is the overall average till date. The actual figures vary, from about 12 in pick summer to 15.5 or so in winter in the city. Then there are highway trips, which are in the range 18-21 if driven around 90kmph, to as low as 15 depending on driving and traffic conditions. I mentioned that overall average figure rather than city/highway figures because even within the city limits, driving condition can vary a great deal depending on which part of the city, what time and so on. Likewise for highway. But the average over a two-year period is likely to be a more robust figure.

I saw from your post in adimicra's thread that you are getting about 13.5. If you are getting that in the present weather, you are doing absolutely fine. I should be asking for tips from you in that case rather than the other way around!

Those are kind words akp. After reading the above i think i have not been able to get better mileage in long runs. Car is so much easy to drive and feels perfectly under control even in 3 figure speed and i think all Jazz owners will agree to this.

I think this is where is need to improve which will again be a challenge for me.

[akp]

A small update:
the car has completed two years, and 29000 km this week. Running fine without any complaints. Have just been back from another trip to the Himachal, this time with five passangers on a eight day trip. It was a total of 1400 km, with more than 800 km in the hills. With AC on most of the time, and fully loaded, it returned a figure of 14.2 kmpl for the trip.
Incidentally, even with five passangers and luggage, this time we didn't scrape the underbody even once. The furthest we'd been to this time was Chitkul.

One snap from our trip:

[adimicra]

nice to see your update.
Post more about the driving experience as you had a full load for the long drive and that too in the hills.
I envy you people who stay near Delhi and can take the car so easily to Himachal.

By the way, what about some alloys and better rubber? And some more snaps please. I got some idea about your photography skills

[aaren]

AKP: This is one more thread that added to my knowledge about Jazz. The more I read about it ( I have TD'ed it few times though), the more I feel that this is a fantastic vehicle that is an all rounder. Am hoping to buy this vehicle early September. Rated the thread 5 stars.

[akp]

Originally Posted by adimicra

nice to see your update.
Post more about the driving experience as you had a full load for the long drive and that too in the hills.

Well, few things I can think of immediately are the following.

Its maneuverability is excellent. Good turning radius combined with the wheels positioned at the four corners make it extremely easy to use on twisty roads.

Power: be ready to drive at one gear lower than you are used to in the planes, and power will not be a problem. For steeper inclines or moderate inclines with bad surface, one has to do a lot of 1st and 2nd gear driving.

The biggest negative that I found is the thick A-pillar - it's fine on normal roads, even on a twisty mountain road if it is wide enough (like on NH22 till you enter Kinnaur), but if it is a narrow road, specially on a blind curve that is turning right, it is a big big pain, and a bit scary at times. You don't see what is coming at you from the opposite till the last moment.

Of course I can never stop talking about its boot. It swallows everything that you throw there. And the fact that mine does not have a parcel tray actually works to our advantage, in the sense that you can access all that you have kept there without getting out of the car. That's a big plus for me during long drives.

I envy you people who stay near Delhi and can take the car so easily to Himachal.

Simple solution - move to Delhi!
But mind you, you will then envy people from Chandigarh, for they are even closer to the hills, and also people from down South for their proximity to the sea!

By the way, what about some alloys and better rubber? And some more snaps please. I got some idea about your photography skills

Better rubber I certainly have in mind. In fact, after getting used to the super silent cabin in city drives, the thing that bothers most during the highway drives is the tire noise. But the Goodyears are otherwise doing alright and having already done close to 30k, will probably wait a while longer, say a year or so, before switching to Michelins.
As for alloys, I will probably let it pass, because we are now looking to replace our 1st car (Fiat Uno) with an SUV in about a year/year-and-a-half, and we need to save some money for that.

Originally Posted by aaren

AKP: This is one more thread that added to my knowledge about Jazz. The more I read about it ( I have TD'ed it few times though), the more I feel that this is a fantastic vehicle that is an all rounder. Am hoping to buy this vehicle early September. Rated the thread 5 stars.

Thanks, aaren. All rounder certainly it is. I am sure you will love it.

[adimicra]

Originally Posted by akp

Well, few things I can think of immediately are the following.

Its maneuverability is excellent. Good turning radius combined with the wheels positioned at the four corners make it extremely easy to use on twisty roads.

Power: be ready to drive at one gear lower than you are used to in the planes, and power will not be a problem. For steeper inclines or moderate inclines with bad surface, one has to do a lot of 1st and 2nd gear driving.

The biggest negative that I found is the thick A-pillar - it's fine on normal roads, even on a twisty mountain road if it is wide enough (like on NH22 till you enter Kinnaur), but if it is a narrow road, specially on a blind curve that is turning right, it is a big big pain, and a bit scary at times. You don't see what is coming at you from the opposite till the last moment.

Of course I can never stop talking about its boot. It swallows everything that you throw there. And the fact that mine does not have a parcel tray actually works to our advantage, in the sense that you can access all that you have kept there without getting out of the car. That's a big plus for me during long drives.

You are right about the A-pillar. Its placement is problematic. Even I have faced one or two scary situations due to it.
The rear parcel tray is removable. I normally remove it when I have a lot of luggage.
Good to know that the car performed well on hilly terrain with a full load.

You know what - Hyderabad sucks in terms of any nearby nice gateways. I miss Bangalore just because of that which has no many nice gatways nearby, though nothing like what you guys have but still...

[akp]

The car has completed 31000 km and 26 months now. Time for an update, I guess. Needless to say, it has been an absolute gem so far. Instead of going into any lengthy description of any sort, let me present some figures.

Service history:

1st service (1 month/ 964 km):

Work done:

visual checks,
topping up oil and washer fluids,
washing

cost: 0



2nd service (3 months/3821 km):

work done:

visual checks,
oil change

Cost: 815/-



3rd sevice (6 months/8413 km):

Work done:

oil change (to synthetic spec 0W30)
oil filter change,
visual checks,
cleaning of air filter,
brake pads
washing

Cost: 2393/-


4th service (11 months/13690 km):

Work done:

tyre rotation,
wheel balancing,
cleaning of filters,
top up brake/clutch fluid,
visual checks,
washing

Cost: 1074/-


5th service (15 months/ 17869 km):

Work done:

Oil/oil filter change,
air filter change,
vidual checks,
cleaning of brake pads,
washing

Cost: 4531/-


6th service (21 months/ 25373 km):

Work done:

Oil/oil filter change,
cleaning of air filter,
dust/pollen filter, brake pads
wheel balancing+alignment
wax polishing (free)

Cost: 4452/-


7th service (26 months/ 31561 km)

Work done:

tyre rotation,
cleaning of air filter, dust/pollen filter,
brake pads
visual checks

Cost: 1092/-


Maintenance work done outside:

Wheel alignment at 13 months/16622 km : 350/-

Accident repair:

during one of our highway drives, had a big dent on the right side rear quarter panel from a truck. Got it repaired at the dealership along with replacement of the tail light assembly.

Cost: 5407/-

Puncture:

1st: 21 months/25400 km,
2nd: 24 months/27460 km
(both times, no visible loss in pressure; once detected while checking at the time of servicing, and once detected while checking before a long drive)

Other than the scheduled visits, I have had to make two trips to the workshop so far. Once for back seat noise that started after getting the car back from their body shop; this was rectified immediately. The other was for a wheel noise that turned out to be due to the wheel mount brushing against some metal part, which again was fixed immediately.


Total:

Maintenance: 14707/-
Other: 5827/-


More numbers:

Distance Run: 31,635 km
Petrol Consumed: 2177.79 ltr
Cost: 1,16,043/-
Overall FE: 14.53 kmpl

Top five FE figures obtained from tankful to tankful:

trip length/FE

222/21.08 (on NH8)
222/19.32 (NH8)
343/19.30 (NH2)
264/19.24 (NH2)
277/18.49 (NH1)

[sraye]

Great ownership thread akp. I have suscribed to it, and look forward to many more updates. I have booked a jazz recently, and must say that the blue that was offered earlier is much better than the present options available.
Thanks for such a detailed report of the service charges and work required over 30K kms as well as adressing the issue of GC.

[misquitas]

Thanks for your detailed maintenance cost log. I would have thought that Honda service costs would have been much higher, given the nature and image of the Jazz. But it is certainly not significantly higher than the cost to service my I10.

Tell me, is the 160mm ground clearance a major issue for the Jazz? have you scrapped the underbelly at speed breakers or potholes?

I am not an owner of a Jaz (as yet), but I have been living (dreaming at night, dreaming at day) the Jazz every moment of my life these past 2 weeks. The presence, class and finesse is supreme in the Jazz.

Man, I need to get one now....

By the way, is there any "How to make money fast" thread on this forum?

[maverhick]

@akp, just booked a Jazz a week ago, can't tell you how happy I feel that I took the right decision. Thanks for the detailed log, appreciate it

[Cooltronics]

Hi Akp, Wonderful post, amazing details and superlative pictures. I have set my eyes on this car since few weeks but didn't really get a chance to drive it. I was amazed to see how much this car's boot can accommodate and the interior quality.
Since you have mentioned about the initial lag, I wanted to know how evident it is when compared with other hatch backs for e.g. Swift 1.3L I drive currently ? I drove i20 few months back and the lag was quite evident when compared with my car. Does it feel the same ? Any major areas of concern during your ownership ?

[akp]

@sraye, @misquitas, @maverhick, @cooltronics: Thanks a lot.

Originally Posted by misquitas

Thanks for your detailed maintenance cost log. I would have thought that Honda service costs would have been much higher, given the nature and image of the Jazz. But it is certainly not significantly higher than the cost to service my I10.

Maintenance cost is not high at all. In fact, of the 14700/- for maintenance, about 8500/- is for oil. I switched to synthetic at the second oil change. Had I stuck to mineral, it would have cost me about 3500/- to 4000/- less, even after accounting for the higher number of oil changes.

Originally Posted by misquitas

Tell me, is the 160mm ground clearance a major issue for the Jazz? have you scrapped the underbelly at speed breakers or potholes?

One has to be careful, yes, but it is not a major issue. I have scrapped the underbelly occasionally, maybe 5/6 times, but never in the city. These were damaged hill roads mostly. Most of these cases, I am sure any other non SUV also would have scrapped (ok, I am excluding the SX4 ZXi here).

Originally Posted by Cooltronics

Since you have mentioned about the initial lag, I wanted to know how evident it is when compared with other hatch backs for e.g. Swift 1.3L I drive currently ? I drove i20 few months back and the lag was quite evident when compared with my car. Does it feel the same ?

Unfortunately I have not driven the Swift, so I can not compare.
Initially one feels the lag more, it reduces once the engine opens up, say after 5-6k km, but does not go away. The thing is this: you have to remember that you can not keep the rpm at 1500 and expect the engine to pull you cleanly. Be around 2000rpm and above, and feel free to rev it higher if you want it to pull even faster. If you adjust your driving style accordingly, you will feel no problem.

Originally Posted by Cooltronics

Any major areas of concern during your ownership ?

Yes - our long distance road trips have gone up manyfold since we bought the car . Indeed, they were almost nonexistent earlier, and in the last two years, we have made 11 long distance trips, and that is quite a burden on the pocket in these times. But then, who cares?

[RavenAvi]

Superb info on the 30K update, akp. Yours is the among the first threads on the Jazz which I have bookmarked since I started reading T-BHP.

I also used one of your jampacked boot pics as an example of how much luggage the Jazz can carry in one of the What Car? threads. Hope you don't mind.

Please keep updating us with the latest. Rating thread a well-deserved 5-stars.

Keep the good work going!

[akp]

Originally Posted by RavenAvi

Superb info on the 30K update, akp. Yours is the among the first threads on the Jazz which I have bookmarked since I started reading T-BHP.

Please keep updating us with the latest. Rating thread a well-deserved 5-stars.

Keep the good work going!

Thanks, RavenAvi.

I also used one of your jampacked boot pics as an example of how much luggage the Jazz can carry in one of the What Car? threads. Hope you don't mind.

No problem at all.

One thing I forgot to mention in my service updates is the workshop experience, which forms an important part of the ownership experience

All the services were done from Automax Honda workshop in Mayapuri. They allow me to be with the car when they are doing anything on it. I normally keep a close eye on what is being done, and then when it goes in the que for washing and gets cleaned, I go to the owners' lounge where they have a tv set and a PC with internet connection (used it only once - I normally carry my laptop and usb modem). I try to reach early, and usually get back my car in 3-4 hours. Only once I happened to land up on a day when there was some free AC servicing camp was going on and the workshop was overcrowded. I had to wait for nearly seven hours that day. So far, it has been a nice experience there. And I hope it continues that way.

[scrooze]

Thanks for the detailed update on maintenance cost and other expenses related to the car.

After reading one of your posts i also started maintaining a detailed cost relating to my Jazz from day one itself and that is very helpful indeed.

Originally Posted by akp

One thing I forgot to mention in my service updates is the workshop experience, which forms an important part of the ownership experience

Agree with the above fully.

I get my car serviced at Hallmark Honda they dont allow inside but if you request there service executive will escort you and let you check the work and car.

In the owners lounge they have a Glass from which you can see your car being serviced.