WHOAAA!! Went Fida - Ford Fiesta 1.6S Panther Black

sathee46 · 23rd October 2009, 11:32

Congrats buddy, That is awesome. Black is one of my favourites after Aquaris. Your inspiration is even better

23rd October 2009, 19:30

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Great buy. Congratulations.

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ABZ · 29th October 2009, 01:18

Mods - Request your help in editing the title of this thread to also say "Pics Added".

Fiesta owners - I need your suggestions for deciding on the sun film for front, sides and back of this Black 1.6S. I've gone through a lot of posts on T-BHP and think that Lumar / 3M should be the ones to consider as V-Kool and Huperoptik might be more expensive.

My requirements (in order of priority)
1. RTO approved.
2. Heat Resisting capacity.
3. Cost (Range: up to 10K)
4. Help reduce glare from oncoming traffic.
5. Help enhance the look of the car.
6. Warranty Period.

Please reply with the sunfilms you think would suit my requirements.

kumar7 · 29th October 2009, 20:34

If you looking for metallic finish then its available in 3M (RE 35) & its not dark film but cuts the heat and you don't feel too dark (Specially rear glass) when you sit inside the car.

I didn't applied film on front windshield but I researched and found 3M CR70 is good.

This combination should come around Rs 9000/- to Rs 9500/-

3M office is at KP, 4th lane so you can get it done directly from company else approach any dealer and tell them to send people at home. 3M people do job with perfection and they are trained accordingly.

If you want to go for darker films then go for Lumar.

anachronix · 29th October 2009, 20:58

How did I miss this thread!? Congratulations ABZ.

Black does look awesome in the 1.6S.

ABZ · 30th October 2009, 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by kumar7

If you looking for metallic finish then its available in 3M (RE 35) & its not dark film but cuts the heat and you don't feel too dark (Specially rear glass) when you sit inside the car.

I didn't applied film on front windshield but I researched and found 3M CR70 is good.

This combination should come around Rs 9000/- to Rs 9500/-

3M office is at KP, 4th lane so you can get it done directly from company else approach any dealer and tell them to send people at home. 3M people do job with perfection and they are trained accordingly.

If you want to go for darker films then go for Lumar.

Thanks buddy!

Does the 35 in RE35 mean it provides 35% visibility? I thought for being RTO approved, the minimum visibility required is 50%.

I stay quite close to KP; shall check out Lane 4 this weekend itself.

kumar7 · 30th October 2009, 00:40

When I approached accessories shop they said its RTO approved! I think its should be because its not at all dark and you can easily locate people sitting inside the car provided you looking from close because at certain angle it shines as it has metallic touch.

Below are details from 3M site -

E 35
Total Solar Energy Rejected: 56% Visible Light Transmission: 37% UV reduction: 99%
RE 50
Total Solar Energy Rejected: 43% Visible Light Transmission: 51% UV reduction: 99%
RE 70
Total Solar Energy Rejected: 34% Visible Light Transmission: 70% UV reduction: 98%

My suggestion will be first go for side glasses and once you comfortable with it then go for front windshield. The reason behind is that when you will put the sun film on front it will have reflection(sometimes) so its better go step by step.

ABZ · 30th October 2009, 11:26

@ kumar7 - I did go through your thread with the pics of the sunfilms. They look pretty good but am still worried that the RE 35 may not be RTO approved. Always thought that the visibility rating (in this case, 37%) needs to be 50% for sides and back and 70% for the front.

Am I missing something here?

nairrk · 30th October 2009, 11:32

I dont think RTO/Police going to check each and every car to see what is the film
visibility percentage?
The cop need to see you from outside, thats all they require.
Incase they are not able to see the driver or passengers inside the car, then they can claim /trouble you that the film which fixed in the door glasses are not visible/not approved by RTO ?
Thanks

ABZ · 30th October 2009, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by nairrk

I dont think RTO/Police going to check each and every car to see what is the film
visibility percentage?
The cop need to see you from outside, thats all they require.
Incase they are not able to see the driver or passengers inside the car, then they can claim /trouble you that the film which fixed in the door glasses are not visible/not approved by RTO ?
Thanks

Are you saying that the RE 35 is not RTO approved but I need not be worried since as kumar7 said this film is on the 'lighter' side?

Then again, with a metallic finish, isn't the cop most likely to see himself instead of me?

nairrk · 30th October 2009, 15:40

Sorry, I am not telling the RE 35 is not RTO approved.The shop guy will definitely explain you what all grades are RTO approved.If you are still worried about metallic finish, then opt for non-metallic films?

ABZ · 30th October 2009, 17:03

@nairrk - The issue is not metallic/non-metallic. It's just that I have heard of stories where cops have removed sunfilms then-and-there since it was not as per RTO norms.

I'll anyways be checking with the dealer but dealers tend to say things to sell their stuff that may not necessarily be true.

So, am just trying to ascertain facts from knowledgeable folks like you.

yogi1771 · 30th October 2009, 18:02

Films with minimum 50% light transmission are RTO approved I think.

kumar7 · 30th October 2009, 20:11

ABZ@ As per dealer they only keep RTO approved films on display even though they have non- RTO approved films but they kept small sample of it and they kept that in drawers. So if you go for specific series then usually dealers don't recommend anything because they understand that you did research and thats why you asking for that particular series.

I was looking for partially mirror type film but then dealer said its not RTO approved so he recommended me to go for RE 35. Please bare in mind that its not darker so it may happen that you will find Lumar (with 50% visibility) look darker in comparison with it!

You have decided 2 brands - Llumar & 3M (Both are good brands)
You looking for darker or lighter shades ? - As per dealer 3M RTO approved films are not in dark colors.
Metallic/Non-metallic? - Metallic available only in 3M (as per dealer)
Warranty - 3M comes with 3 year warranty. Am not sure about Llumar (they may have same)
Most important - Price factor ? Llumar is comparatively costlier by 1 - 1.5K

Its different issue which ever film you go for but I don't think cops will force you to remove film on the spot because its not easier to remove as you need sharp blades. Cops are busy in collections so don't worry!

ABZ · 30th October 2009, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kumar7

ABZ@ As per dealer they only keep RTO approved films on display even though they have non- RTO approved films but they kept small sample of it and they kept that in drawers.
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Cops are busy in collections so don't worry!

Thanks kumar7. To answer some of your questions.

Brand: 3M / Llumar
Shade: I think darker would look better given the color of the car - Black.
Metallic/Non-metallic: Assuming that the metallic mean a more mirror-like effect?
Warranty: Anything around 3 years should be fine.
Price: 10K (max)

23rd October 2009, 11:32	#31
sathee46 BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 465 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Congrats buddy, That is awesome. Black is one of my favourites after Aquaris. Your inspiration is even better
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23rd October 2009, 19:30	#32
DipantS Posts: n/a	[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Great buy. Congratulations.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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29th October 2009, 01:18	#33
ABZ BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 43 Thanked: 0 Times	Mods - Request your help in editing the title of this thread to also say "Pics Added". Fiesta owners - I need your suggestions for deciding on the sun film for front, sides and back of this Black 1.6S. I've gone through a lot of posts on T-BHP and think that Lumar / 3M should be the ones to consider as V-Kool and Huperoptik might be more expensive. My requirements (in order of priority) 1. RTO approved. 2. Heat Resisting capacity. 3. Cost (Range: up to 10K) 4. Help reduce glare from oncoming traffic. 5. Help enhance the look of the car. 6. Warranty Period. Please reply with the sunfilms you think would suit my requirements.
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29th October 2009, 20:34	#34
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	If you looking for metallic finish then its available in 3M (RE 35) & its not dark film but cuts the heat and you don't feel too dark (Specially rear glass) when you sit inside the car. I didn't applied film on front windshield but I researched and found 3M CR70 is good. This combination should come around Rs 9000/- to Rs 9500/- 3M office is at KP, 4th lane so you can get it done directly from company else approach any dealer and tell them to send people at home. 3M people do job with perfection and they are trained accordingly. If you want to go for darker films then go for Lumar. Last edited by kumar7 : 29th October 2009 at 20:35.
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29th October 2009, 20:58	#35
anachronix Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Madras Posts: 3,286 Thanked: 1,336 Times View My Garage	How did I miss this thread!? Congratulations ABZ. Black does look awesome in the 1.6S.
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30th October 2009, 00:40	#37
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	When I approached accessories shop they said its RTO approved! I think its should be because its not at all dark and you can easily locate people sitting inside the car provided you looking from close because at certain angle it shines as it has metallic touch. Below are details from 3M site - E 35 Total Solar Energy Rejected: 56% Visible Light Transmission: 37% UV reduction: 99% RE 50 Total Solar Energy Rejected: 43% Visible Light Transmission: 51% UV reduction: 99% RE 70 Total Solar Energy Rejected: 34% Visible Light Transmission: 70% UV reduction: 98% My suggestion will be first go for side glasses and once you comfortable with it then go for front windshield. The reason behind is that when you will put the sun film on front it will have reflection(sometimes) so its better go step by step. Last edited by kumar7 : 30th October 2009 at 00:42.
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30th October 2009, 11:26	#38
ABZ BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 43 Thanked: 0 Times	@ kumar7 - I did go through your thread with the pics of the sunfilms. They look pretty good but am still worried that the RE 35 may not be RTO approved. Always thought that the visibility rating (in this case, 37%) needs to be 50% for sides and back and 70% for the front. Am I missing something here?
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30th October 2009, 11:32	#39
nairrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kannur Posts: 2,441 Thanked: 674 Times View My Garage	I dont think RTO/Police going to check each and every car to see what is the film visibility percentage? The cop need to see you from outside, thats all they require. Incase they are not able to see the driver or passengers inside the car, then they can claim /trouble you that the film which fixed in the door glasses are not visible/not approved by RTO ? Thanks
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30th October 2009, 15:40	#41
nairrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kannur Posts: 2,441 Thanked: 674 Times View My Garage	Sorry, I am not telling the RE 35 is not RTO approved.The shop guy will definitely explain you what all grades are RTO approved.If you are still worried about metallic finish, then opt for non-metallic films?
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30th October 2009, 17:03	#42
ABZ BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 43 Thanked: 0 Times	@nairrk - The issue is not metallic/non-metallic. It's just that I have heard of stories where cops have removed sunfilms then-and-there since it was not as per RTO norms. I'll anyways be checking with the dealer but dealers tend to say things to sell their stuff that may not necessarily be true. So, am just trying to ascertain facts from knowledgeable folks like you.
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30th October 2009, 18:02	#43
yogi1771 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 697 Thanked: 15 Times	Films with minimum 50% light transmission are RTO approved I think.
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30th October 2009, 20:11	#44
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	ABZ@ As per dealer they only keep RTO approved films on display even though they have non- RTO approved films but they kept small sample of it and they kept that in drawers. So if you go for specific series then usually dealers don't recommend anything because they understand that you did research and thats why you asking for that particular series. I was looking for partially mirror type film but then dealer said its not RTO approved so he recommended me to go for RE 35. Please bare in mind that its not darker so it may happen that you will find Lumar (with 50% visibility) look darker in comparison with it! You have decided 2 brands - Llumar & 3M (Both are good brands) You looking for darker or lighter shades ? - As per dealer 3M RTO approved films are not in dark colors. Metallic/Non-metallic? - Metallic available only in 3M (as per dealer) Warranty - 3M comes with 3 year warranty. Am not sure about Llumar (they may have same) Most important - Price factor ? Llumar is comparatively costlier by 1 - 1.5K Its different issue which ever film you go for but I don't think cops will force you to remove film on the spot because its not easier to remove as you need sharp blades. Cops are busy in collections so don't worry! Last edited by kumar7 : 30th October 2009 at 20:12.
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