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Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Surat/Mumbai
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| Our new hatchback: Indica Vista Tdi :) Guys, finally a new member has joined our family. Please pardon me for being verbose. After various discussions, arguments, heated debates, we finally decided to buy our 2nd family car. [FONT=Arial]Our previous car, Maruti 800, D.O.B-August '95 was doing just fine for us, a family of four, until my family members traveled in their friends' Indica Xeta a couple of times. Every time they traveled in their car, they were all gaa-gaa over the space and comfort it offered. So in comparison,our Maruti felt cramped[/FONT]. So the hunt for a spacious car began, the benchmark being the Indica. Our running isn't much, hardly 700-800 kms a month. So it had to be a petrol; which would be retrofitted with a CNG kit in a year's time. I didn't like the idea of CNG. So in the back of our mind, the diesel was always an option. The Decision making period:
After delaying it for several months, in the month of december, we decided its high time we take the advantage which the month offers in terms of discounts and offers. So the hunt began. There were a few attractive offers from Maruti, Hyundai, Tata, Fiat. We decided to check out the cars. Our budget being decided, the cars which we short-listed in terms of space/mileage/FE/budget/reliability were:
Fiat Punto, i10, Getz, Wagon R, Ritz, Swift, Indica Xeta, Indica Vista Safire.
-Punto-Out of all these car, I always had an inclination towards the Punto, for its looks and the Italian heart. But since the car would be driven primarily by my father, it had to suit his tastes/beliefs. He always considered Fiat as a company which never succeeded in making fuel-efficient cars. I tried my best to convince him, and just have a look at it. In the mean while, I continued my research on Team BHP. So Punto was tentatively in the list.
-Wagon R-it was liked by my father and me equally, but the ladies at my place (read mom&sister) never liked it for the claustrophobic rear space it offered. It was termed as an Auto-rickshaw by them. (No offense meant to Wagon R owners, I myself always felt that it could be the car for my father, because of the many virtues it had viz. good FE, reliability, etc.) So it was not on the list any more.
-Ritz-no body at my place except liked the rear design. Nevertheless, i tried my best to help them see the point that it is that design itself which gives good aerodynamics to the car. So went for a test-drive with father, but there wasn't a test drive car available, since it was a Sunday. The sales executive promised to bring the car next day to our place, but that day never came. Till date, that executive hasn't called a single time. So it was off the list.
-Swift-the rear space wasn't sufficient.
-Getz-the rear space was good, the car was built well, but I some how didn't like the car. I 1.1 unit was considered bit underpowered for a car like Getz. And the executive himself said that the 1.3 wasn't available, and will be available only when ordered. The discounts were good on the 1.1, but no discounts/availability on the 1.3. So the 1.1 Getz was off the list.
Then the day came when we went to check out the Punto and the Indica siblings. The moment we entered the showroom, my mom drifted towards the Manza. She liked it a lot. She didn't even went near the Vista. On our request, she saw the Vista externally, but refused to sit inside. We were shown the Punto as well, a nice car. I saw it before as well, but my family members saw it for the 1st time, the interiors et al. We were shown the Xeta as well, the ladies liked the car, my father liked it for the price at which it was offered. But was a bit skeptical. The sales executive offered us the Safire's test-drive. My father drove it, and he liked the car, but felt it a bit heavy. There were 5 people sitting in the car, plus the AC.
Overall, we returned home confused than ever before.
We days went by, and we started considering Manza as an option. Everyone liked it at home. But I didn't see any point in buying it since we didn't need a boot. Plus a petrol Manza didn't encourage me due the FE concerns. In the days that followed, spotted a few Manzas on the road, spoke with a fellow, he said the Safire90 returned a FE of 12 on the road. I told that to my father, he said that figure is fine, but the CNG conversion has to be done in a year max. I somehow didn't like the CNG option. The coming Sunday, went to the dealer with father, and test-drove the Fiat Punto as well. My father liked the car, but was skeptical about its FE. He also test-drove the MJD, and the Quadrajet. He noticed that the MJD was more noisier than the Quad. Diesel never was an option for us, but after the Quadrajet experience, we seriously started thinking about a diesel car.
Then came the final day, 29th Dec'09. I called up a dealer in Vapi just to know the price difference. The executive gave us the quotation for Punto Active, Safire, and also the Tdi. Guys, we never considered Tdi as an option, but I read over Team BHP that it is Tdi that is real value for money, hence researched a lot on this variant. And considered it as an option.
The Vapi dealer said we have to book pronto, irrespective of the car, in order to avail the december offers. So I spoke with my father, and decided that we could go ahead with the Vapi dealer. After a while, I felt that since the car would be driven in Surat, it would any day be better that we buy it from the same city, irrespective of the discounts. So I headed towards the showroom, along with my kid sister. Reached the showroom confused as to which car to finalize. My sister sat in Punto, then in Vista, and the obvious comparison: Space. She said bhaiya this is more spacious than the Punto, and also it has got wider and bigger rear bench. So I asked the executive to get a Tdi for test-drive. He brought the car from the 4th floor; that was where the cars were stocked. Test-drove the Tdi, found the pick-up acceptable, and then the choice was made. Spoke with my father over the phone, who was in office. He asked me to TD the Punto. I did that, the Punto Active, since the MJD was beyond our budget. I liked it, but the only concern was its FE. I felt its always better to buy a diesel car which costs 4L than buying a petrol one which costs atleast 40 k more. My father spoke with me, my sister over the phone. My sis said the Punto isn't that good, and I helped him see the diesel advantage; cost-wise. He agreed. He said okay, then Tdi it is. I felt its better to go for the Terra rather than the Aqua. So Indica Vista Terra Tdi was booked. The buying experience:
The sales executive, Irshad was very helpful, and the owner of Auto-point, Surat, Mr Tarun bhai was also a gentleman. The following price was quoted to me:
Ex-stockyard price-3,19,024/-
Insurance-1/-
R.T.O. with S.M.C tax-23,096/-
Basic Access.+Extended Warr(1 year)-5,990/-
On the road cost=4,07,434/-
Then came the real part, the discount part. He wasn't willing to give more than 5k apart from the free insurance. I said the free ins. is from TATA. What is it that you will give? After some bargaining, he deducted 5k
So now the O.T.R=407434-5000=4,02,434/-
But i wasn't happy still. I said i want 10 k more, and he said this is the max he can give me. I persisted on the figure, he said its not possible. (I had a conversation with a guy who purchase a Quadrajet a few months back, and he had told me that the margin these guys have is hardly 10k, so if he's giving free ins, don't expect anything more than 5-6k from him.)
I said Tarunbhai, I won't buy the car at this price, choice is yours. I have the check, now you decide whether you want it or not. He smiled at me, and wrote the following figure on a piece of paper: 3,97,501/-. I wasn't satisfied yet, so I started pestering him for giving me seat covers for fee. I tried hard for 10-15 minutes, but he didn't budge. So I said, lets go about it the other way round. I said I don't want your 'B. Access+Warr. package', or rather I don't these accessories(teflon coating, perfume, matts, mud flaps). So he deducted that amount, since I didn't need them. Then I said Tarunbhai that's fine, but what about the seat covers? He said its not possible, any where in India to give seat covers worth 4.5k plus so much discount. I finally said okay fine give me something for free, and the check is yours. He gave me the basic access. i.e. the mudflaps, floor matts, and Murti. So I handed him the check. The O.T.R now was 3,91,501/-. But I wanted the extended warranty. So he added 5k. So the final figure that I paid for the car+2 years extended warranty was 3,96,501.
The discounts I got:-
Free Insurance
5000/- initial discount(provided I submit my older Maruti's RC book's photocopy, i did that)
4,933/-
2000/- from the December Offer from Tata Motors.
We took the delivery of the car on the next day, and I took the Team BHP's checklist along with me. Reached the showroom a couple of hours before my family members reached, checked the car, drove it a bit, and found everything OK.
Last edited by Mpower : 26th January 2010 at 22:44.
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