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Old 1st September 2010, 10:59   #16
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MAN!!! How a simple thread like this can change a man's mind. I was Cruze all the way. But after reading your review I am completely bowled over by the Jetta. Great pictures. Interior is beautiful. Features are superb as well.the car is top class and speaks quality. Congrats!!

P.S--Someone gift me 17.98 Lacs..PLEASE!!
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Congrats on the Jetta. The white jetta looks great. The rear lights are similar to the Passat one can get confused from the rear looks.

The feature list is quite long, enjoy the car and drive safe.

Ignorance cost GM a sale. All is well in the end.
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Congrats on the car! White looks good. The feature list is also quite big and impressive.

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Ignorance cost GM a sale. All is well in the end.
I recognise the VW sales exec from the picture posted. His bragging about Polo v/s the Punto (with incorrect technical details) put me off when I was looking for a car. Maybe he is a Jetta specialist
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hehehe, so the new Altis diesel has this amazing feature: TDSS
(Test Drive Screening System).

Although Kerala has 5 Toyota dealerships, 3 of them are owned by one group and the remaining 2, by the other group. Automakers should consider denying a second dealership to the present dealers. There would have been more competition and better service had the five dealerships been separate entities.

Compare Cruz with the movie 2012 and the Jetta, The War of the Worlds. Both are end-of-the-world thrillers, both are super hits, both were directed by super directors..but still Roland Emmerich is no match for Spielberg and it is very evident.

All the above are purely IMO. No offence please and @Altaf, congrats! Even though your car has no official run-in period, still consider staying under a self-imposed limit for the first 1-2K. It won't bring your car any harm.
hahahaha TDSS is a new innovative technology developed by the toyota dealer in my town! they will keep one exam to see how interested we are to buy their car. before exam there will be an interview at the toyota dealership at their convenience!
am kidding, (the above said is just for fun and not to insult any particular person or organisation).

sure sandeepmdas, am not flooring the car much, everything is in limits. thanks buddy
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White Jetta looks gorgeous!
Enjoy the smooth drives.
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MAN!!! How a simple thread like this can change a man's mind. I was Cruze all the way. But after reading your review I am completely bowled over by the Jetta. Great pictures. Interior is beautiful. Features are superb as well.the car is top class and speaks quality. Congrats!!

P.S--Someone gift me 17.98 Lacs..PLEASE!!
Well, 2011 Jetta is based on Audi A4 platform and, IMPO, looks so Audi-like. It will be bigger, and better. Hopefully, prices do not shoot up. Only marginal hike likely considering pricing by VW on other cars (Polo and Vento) being aggressive and their new-found-focus on India. See the link - 2011 Volkswagen Jetta - New VW Jetta - VW.com
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Welcome to the Jetta club

>>> althaaf,

Welcome to the Jetta club.

The J is a superb (pun unintended) highway cruiser,with tremendous stability and handling. It is also an effortless city drive -although I do not have the manual transmission, I find the six speed DSG very comfortable and smooth- despite the car's heft.

It can seat four (or five) adults comfortably over long drives over indifferent surfaces. I fine the torque exciting, especially when I am climbing up inclines.

I have done Udaipur, Mount Abu and places around Bombay in my Jetta and will be setting out to do Corbett soon. That speaks about its driveability. In Bombay city driving it returns a fuel consumption of approximately 10-11 kmpl and on highways it does about 15 kmpl.


Enjoy and drive safe.

P.S. : Am contemplating a monsoon run from Bombay to Kerala next year; hope to meet you then
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Congrats on your new ride .
Today while coming to ofc i saw a black colored Jetta, the car looked classy i must say. And there was strange kind look in the drivers face ,so after reading your review now i undersnt why that guy looked so happy behind the wheels.
And as Pancham mentioned if someone is gifting 17.98 Lac , then please gift me also 14lacs only , i will somehow manage with that only ( will sell my Ritz and get the rest of the money ) LOL and the get the Jetta.

Anyways , jokes apart, drive safe and take care.
Cheers
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Well, 2011 Jetta is based on Audi A4 platform and, IMPO, looks so Audi-like. It will be bigger, and better. Hopefully, prices do not shoot up. Only marginal hike likely considering pricing by VW on other cars (Polo and Vento) being aggressive and their new-found-focus on India. See the link - 2011 Volkswagen Jetta - New VW Jetta - VW.com
The new 2011 Jetta is not based on the A4 platform its partly based on the PQ35 platform that is a member of the Volkswagen Group A platform whereas the latest and even the older A4's were base on the Volkswagen Group B platform "B8 and B7". Also the new Jetta is suppose to cost less because of cost cutting and VW's wish to sell more cars.
 
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Firstly, congrats on your decision to go ahead with Jetta after your initial confusion with Cruze

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now about test drive of cruze. first thing i found was a negative point. the car look huge from outside only. inside its damn small. i found my old santro much more comfortable and spacious from driver seat. am 6ft tall and if i sit comfortably, no one can sit behind. if i sit on passenger seat fully moved backwards, i still wont b able to open the dash glove box. it just hits my knee. once you press the accelerator, first thing u will say is that it got lot of horses under the hood. Shift to second gear, the first thing u will notice is that few horses went to sleep! i mean lot of turbo lag, i found it more irritating when down shifting for overtaking and all( overtaking was not possible in 5th or 4th during many instances)
I must say your feedback is pretty misleading. I have owned a Santro myself for close to 4 years and i am surprised your comparing the interior space of Cruze with Santro. And, i am 6ft. 1inch myself so my feedback cannot be radically different from yours when we are talking about interior space?

When the driver seat is pushed back with me in a comfortable position, a 5.10inch guy can easily sit behind me.

There is turbolag for sure and tell me which diesel car does not have it? but, if you stay in the right gear, this problem is non-existent. Altis D is really bad in that case and that too with 87 BHP to talk about.

I am glad that you have decided on a Jetta because of its lower turbolag ( not driven one, so cannot compare) and for better interior plastics/chrome not to mention you finding a 110bhp more powerful than a 150bhp one

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Slotted in to first gear. my god the car felt more powerful, had enormous torque. turbo kicked in at around 1400 compared to 3500 or some thing in cruze. so definitely no turbo lag and overtaking is a easy job
Is this a typo?????????

My Cruze starts pulling from 1300RPM and its peak torque is at 2600rpm. At 3500rpm, you can almost feel the lesser equivalent of G-forces in a Cruze so looks like either you were completely biased or dont have any knowledge about RPM's and equivalent speed.

Finally, it would be much appreciated if you dont make such sweeping statements so as not to mislead others.

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I must say your feedback is pretty misleading. I have owned a Santro myself for close to 4 years and i am surprised your comparing the interior space of Cruze with Santro. And, i am 6ft. 1inch myself so my feedback cannot be radically different from yours when we are talking about interior space?

When the driver seat is pushed back with me in a comfortable position, a 5.10inch guy can easily sit behind me.
I agree to the above. Having sat in the rear seat of Cruze with the front seat fully pushed back, it was not uncomfortable at all. And 3 people at the back seat were also comfortably seated.

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There is turbolag for sure and tell me which diesel car does not have it? but, if you stay in the right gear, this problem is non-existent. Altis D is really bad in that case and that too with 87 BHP to talk about.

I am glad that you have decided on a Jetta because of its lower turbolag ( not driven one, so cannot compare) and for better interior plastics/chrome not to mention you finding a 110bhp more powerful than a 150bhp one

Is this a typo?????????

My Cruze starts pulling from 1300RPM and its peak torque is at 2600rpm. At 3500rpm, you can almost feel the lesser equivalent of G-forces in a Cruze so looks like either you were completely biased or dont have any knowledge about RPM's and equivalent speed.

Finally, it would be much appreciated if you dont make such sweeping statements so as not to mislead others.
Again I have to say that I agree to the above as Cruze is definitely a rocket. The initial batches had turbo kicking in at ~1800 RPM so that used to be problem in the traffic but with the present gen ones, the turbo kicking in is very seamless and the car just glides through the speeds.

Plus I think the Jetta CRDI is a 1.6 Litre engine ( Same as the one powering the Polo / Vento) whereas the Cruze has a 2 Litre heart same as the Captiva.

Not to put down any brand as such but the Cruze engine in one word is just "Amazing" !
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Hehe.... The moment I read the original post in this thread, i knew the above post is coming from mobike008.

I have never been in any of these cars, but when I went to check the Spark few months back, took a peekk inside the Cruze and sat in the drivers seat as well. It is very unfair to say that the space is comparable to santro/I10/spark or the likes.

Also, the turbo kicking in at 3500 rpm for any vehicle is absurd (unless you are talking of a upmarket twin-turbo vehicle and are referring to the second turbcharger dedicated to high-end performance).

So, I would second mobike008 here and say that this is very good review of the Jetta but in few places a bit to harsh to the Cruze.
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Plus I think the Jetta CRDI is a 1.6 Litre engine ( Same as the one powering the Polo / Vento) whereas the Cruze has a 2 Litre heart same as the Captiva.

Not to put down any brand as such but the Cruze engine in one word is just "Amazing" !
The Jetta is a 2.0tdi Crdi engine, which is normally tuned to 140bhp and 320nm but in this case it is 110bhp and 250nm. The same engine is in the Skoda Laura and Superb, it was in the Passat too, and it is available in the Audi A4 also.
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The interior space comments about Cruze is misleading. The car is very spacious and i have not felt any problems.I have even had 4 people (2 adults and 2 children) sit comfortably in the back.

turbo lag till 3500 is absolutely wrong! Whenever i drive Cruze, the turbo kicks in at 1300 to 1400rpm. But its negligable when you driive in highways. And with regrad to overtaking, its a breeze! I have noticed me touching 110 without the rpm needle touching '2'!

I think Cruze deserves more good opinion for its performance than what was mentioned in this post
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Going a bit OT here but

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Passenger side air bags can be turned off in case there is a child seat being used in the front seat. If the air bag deploys in such a case, it can cause severe injury to the child.
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For those times when a kid is sitting on front passenger seat, you can switch off the air-bag as it may hurt instead protecting the kid during accident! I am guessing...
1. Kids are not supposed to be in the front seat. Especially when they are below the age/height not to wear their own seat belts.

2. The switch does not say which air bag.

Disabling safety as a choice? Nein!!!
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