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Originally Posted by zipzapzoom have safe trip ACM
look forward to more inputs from you as regards to handling of the ARIA, especially overtaking and breaking.
regards |
Thanks ZZZ partial report at base of this post.
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Originally Posted by 5kmiles Wow...!!!
On most other forums, notice us Indians quabbling and abusing each other for lamest of excuses. But here on team-bhp, we get gems like this thread that demonstrate what many of us are capable of - when we put our head into it. Great great great thread - for structure, choice of words, content quality, and staging of content.
A owner of Manza Aura+, had to answer plenty of people 'why Tata?'. Am sure with cars like this, with clear separation of complete 'customer experience process' from test drives to delivery to (hopefully) service for premium segment, Tata is one company that will go the distance and I will be able to show my car (including Vista) that sort of demonstrated that Tatas can make cars that we want. |
Thanks, I actually love the Manza and Vista, and feel they are great value and quality. Actually the Manza across all sedans would me my selection at any price point below that of the Linea T-Jet.
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Originally Posted by the VTEC guy @ACM - See the picture below. This is what I was talking about a compact USB if used will help in keeping the shutter closed. |
VTEC thanks - seeing is believing. Will get myself one of those.
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Originally Posted by slackyboy Wonderful writing ACM...Enjoyed every bit of it. I am a major fan of the Safari and love it for what it is. The Aria is a wonderful vehicle and i have seen several on the road in the past few weeks. I loved the bit when you said that as an Indian you are proud about it. Kudos to TATA for bringing out this vehicle albeit at a slightly higher cost. A big congratulations to you ACM for many wonderful kilometers of motoring with your family in the Aria. |
Thanks slackboy, Yes as an Indian the Aria makes me feel "Pride" every minute I own it, also pricing is so relative. As long as a vehicle delivers as per the requirements and aspirations, better than another higher or lower priced vehicle - that may not meet the stipulations as well - one can be comfortable with the decision. .
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Originally Posted by VeluM Yup, that's an HP compact 4GB USB drive. Costs around 550, if I'm not mistaken.
There are smaller ones too, in the 650-750 range, so if you have 3-4 of those, suitably labelled, should cover most of the family's taste in Music
PS: All those wee cubby-holes will require a lot of vacuuming, wouldn't they? India's dust, creeps in Everywhere! |
Velu thank you for the picing, all my new pen drives going ahead will be the compact ones. Yes dust does creep in all over the place, but compared to the safari the entry of dust is much lower, yet compared to the Laura a bit higher.
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Originally Posted by oldmobile Great post. Enjoy your Aria. One of these days I want to test drive the Aria. If price comes down it will be a compelling buy.
When in doubt expand "it's" to "it is" and you will immediately see if you are making a mistake.
'Looks' are subjective and so it is a personal decision. I own an Innova and though I like its looks, I like the shape and presence of Safari a lot more. But I didn't make my decision based on looks --- and that again is a personal decision.
Regarding taxi-image, there are taxis and then there are taxis. You have Maruti Omni taxis where the windshield is one inch in front of your face, then you have the Marinos, the Logans and the Innovas. In Beijing you will see a whole bunch of VW Jetta taxis. The Leela Palace uses Nissan Teana as a taxi.
Though I agree that Innova may not be exciting, I wouldn't say that it is not a driver's vehicle. It is a lot of fun to drive, has very good acceleration for a minivan, rock solid stability even at 140 km/hr. Regarding your observation that the Innova was unable to climb over to a Service road (this depends on the divider and also to some extent on the skill of the driver), the couple of occasions that I had to do so, I didn't have any problem. |
Thanks Oldsmobile.
My language has never been great - probably the reason why I am not a book writer - though with the MS aids and tools even that hurdel can today be overcome. But for posting on TBHP one can't really create the post straight in MS Word and needs to use Notepad, and then paste in work for the checks and then post back from Notepad directly into TBHP.
Looks are indeed subjective. Innova is indeed a great vehicle and has met the needs of the country in a superb manner. Yes there is a TAXI-TAXI image difference and if the Aria introduces a lower priced Plus model soon then that difference will be reduced. But though Innova is bought by a lot of invidiuals, it does also have the Taxi image, but definately that of a more premium taxi than others.
Regarding the divider that the Innova couldn't clear - well I guess it was a bit higher than that the ones that the Innova does clear.
Am sure the Pajero and Fortuner will clear bigger dividers than the Aria so it's all relative.
But yes the Aria definately has the requisite ground clearance, power and rear departure angles, though the approach angle is not great, and the turbo lag in power delivery is not too helpfull when one is stuck.
I have posted below in this post the reactions of a driver who has a lot of experience with the Innova and actually loves it.
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Originally Posted by fiat_tarun You could also use a usb extension cable and use any pen drive. They hardly cost anything and the pen drive can be kept in that storage slot.. |
Thanks Tarun - Will be trying out the options next week.
Now a bit about the Shirdi trip -
520 kms from Thane
This time since I was travelling with a friend -decided to take along a driver who I know very well. He has extensive experience in multiple cars including the Innova, and loves the Innova. I in the meanwhile wanted to experience the backseat and chat with my friend.
Both my friend and I have back pain issues.
The Driver has driven the Aria earlier in the city and was quite neutral to it and found it to be like the Innova in city - with better height and hence visibility. Given that the Innova is known to be more sedan like this can be taken to be a compliment.
On the highway he said something that brought a smile to my face - a compliment that I must mention - He felt that the Aria was quite like the Fiesta in the engine way if got of the block and handled. Now the driver has always loved the fiesta and has mentioned many times that it is his personal favourite, for the Aria to be compared with the fiest - considering it's bulk and weight is a huge complement. The Driver also now on the highway could notice the overtaking ability vs the Innova as well as the composure over really rough roads - Ghoti to Sinnar - Nasik Bypass Road - which is now in bad condition post rains.
In short the Aria is now this neutral drivers favoured long distance drive vehicle. (He still does love the Innova in this aspect but the Aria a bit more.)
The Backseat (middle row) to me felt more comfortable in slightly inclined position than the position with larger incline angles. Also felt more comfortable with the Seatbelt on in the middle row than without it. Without the Seatbelt - especially with the seat inclined - one tends to slip ahead due to it being a leather seat every time the car slows down.
Also the Passenger Seat up ahead is the most comfortable seat among all. I tried it after the middle row seat and was more comfortable in the front.
The Middle Row AC controls are lovely and the AC cools perfectly, but the Safari Middle Row does remain the best middlerow this side of 40L
The Overtaking as mentioned is smooth but one does tend to / prefer to shift down to 4th most of the time.
Possibly since the route is a mix involving highway and ghat roads the effeciency was not in the higher values but just about 10.5 kmpl
Have given the car for the first service today morning - more about that and the drive tomorrow.
Also more reactions from those who saw the ARIA on the road later today.