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Old 14th September 2020, 19:10   #586
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Avi_swift, I need a help.
I am a complete newbie in this. Recently did a Jaipur and Jodhpur trip from GGN 1 month apart (maximum 650 km in 12 hrs). I have the same vehicle like you, swift petrol 2016 model. And I am a lockdown learner.
Even today I stopped the car twice while struggling through traffic mixed of cars, big cars, trucks, jcb, bikes and scooties with 3 riders, cycles, pedestrians busy on Phones, cows and buffaloes, cars and bikes in a hurry from opposite side; everything packed in an almost non-existent road full of craters in GGN. So, this is my skill level!
1. Should I undertake this road trip- GGN to Kolkata? Is it too risky without experience or enough skill set? I am planning for puja (mid October).
2. I think I can do upto Lucknow, and doubtful for the next leg. So which route should I take after lucknow? A number of options with advantages/ disadvantages would be helpful.
3. After lucknow is it safe for women? I need a night hault at prayagraj or Varanasi.
4. Any suggestion for high end hotel for night stop at prayagraj / Varanasi, which will be near to the highway and not inside congested city (in Rajasthan I found high end hotels were reliable and maintaining COVID norms). If I am too exhausted, I may take one day break there.
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2. I think I can do upto Lucknow, and doubtful for the next leg. So which route should I take after lucknow? A number of options with advantages/ disadvantages would be helpful.
3. After lucknow is it safe for women? I need a night hault at prayagraj or Varanasi.
4. Any suggestion for high end hotel for night stop at prayagraj / Varanasi, which will be near to the highway and not inside congested city (in Rajasthan I found high end hotels were reliable and maintaining COVID norms). If I am too exhausted, I may take one day break there.
GGN to Lucknow can take around 8 hours, with some little breaks enroute. I recently did this route (not precisely from Gurgaon though). I was on Aruna Asaf Ali Marg at 2 pm, had lunch near Khan market, had a diversion at Noida for filling diesel, had a 20 mins stop-over at roadside facility before the Jewar Toll, another tea-stoppage at Inner Ring Road tea stalls in Agra, had another 10 mins stop at km point 100. I reached Lucknow at 10.20 pm.

In this drive, my elder daughter was with me. Anyway, for your information, after Lucknow too, it is safe for women. Nothing to worry, unless you drive late in the mid-night, etc. Once I drove the Allahabad - Lucknow section in the late evening (7.45 pm - 12.30 am); I was on my way from Mirzapur. On another occasion, I drove this section in the night (I left Allahabad at 1.30 am and reached Lucknow at 6 am; I was on my way from Calcutta). On these drives, I had family with me, including my two daughters. These were around five to six years ago. There was no problem, but don't take that kind of chance. As a fact, I also avoid late night driving these days, unless I have to reach territories that are best known to me and unless I enter city limits within reasonable time frame, by ten or so. Even then, not beyond that.

You can take Raebareilly/Allahabad bypass/Varanasi route (there may be road-work going on here and there once you are on NH 2/GT Road; I don't have updates).

There are no hotels, high or low ends, on highways either near Allahabad or Varanasi. But in Varanasi, you can proceed on the highway itself on NH 2, and take diversion to Ramnagar, and you will get a hotel called Grapevine on your left. That should be a high-end good hotel, with ample parking etc. It is reasonably away from the city too.

You have a hotel called Vaishnavi Heights at Aurangabad bypass too. Facilities are good but not too sure about the extent of their following Covid 19 hygiene protocols. There are a couple of more hotels here, but don't have first hand experience. I had a stopover at Vaishnavi Heights for lunch once.

After that, you may get good hotels in Dhanbad and Durgapur only. Rest of it, you know.

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I am planning to drive from Durgapur with family to Pathankot last week of October. My initial thought was to stopover at Lucknow. However I am getting many suggestions to take Kanpur Etawah route and many are telling to go ahead with Raeberaily Lucknow route . We are starting at 4 am from Durgapur. Which would be faster and better to drive among these 3 between Varanasi and Agra stretch :-
Varanasi- Machli sahar - Raebareli-Lucknow (night halt)-ALE-YEW-Agra
Varanasi-Handia-Allahabad bypass - Raebareli - Lucknow (night halt)-ALE-YEW-Agra
Varanasi-Handia-Allahabad bypass - Kanpur (night halt) - Etawah-ALE-YEW-Agra
Also , it would be great if you can suggest a good hotel in Kanpur which is easier for entry exit to NH19 ( in care via Kanpur is a better option)
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1. Should I undertake this road trip- GGN to Kolkata? Is it too risky without experience or enough skill set? I am planning for puja (mid October).
2. I think I can do upto Lucknow, and doubtful for the next leg. So which route should I take after lucknow? A number of options with advantages/ disadvantages would be helpful.
3. After lucknow is it safe for women? I need a night hault at prayagraj or Varanasi.
4. Any suggestion for high end hotel for night stop at prayagraj / Varanasi, which will be near to the highway and not inside congested city (in Rajasthan I found high end hotels were reliable and maintaining COVID norms). If I am too exhausted, I may take one day break there.
1. By all means go for it If you can drive to Jodhpur, you can go to Kolkata as well. In-spite of unruly traffic, many stretches of bad to horrible roads, I'm sure you will enjoy the drive. Don't worry about stalling the car, I do it sometimes as well and I'm sure many does.
2. My motto is always travel on the most well known route. Given the unpredictability of Indian highways, I believe its the best thing to do, even if it takes a little more time. So naturally I would suggest Lucknow->Prayagraj->Varanasi->Sasaram->Auranganad->Dhanbad->Kolkata. If in doubt, take 1 day off and do this in 3 days, you will feel much more relaxed.
3. If you travel during the day, the entire route should be safe. Check into a decent hotel for the night. Personally, I always try to avoid night driving.
4. I didn't spot any decent hotel near the highway on the whole journey. We too wanted a hotel near the highway, but ultimately had to travel inside as there were no good hotels near the highway. Due to Covid, we saw 5 star hotels with tariffs starting from as low as 2000, although by Puja time, I'm sure they will go up. Don't worry, Varanasi isn't all about narrow lanes. Stay in the Mall road in the cantonment area, you will find several good hotels there, and driving in these parts is like driving in any Indian cities. If you can't reach Varanasi, stay in Prayagraj for the night, you should find good hotels there as well.

Please update after you complete your journey, it will help me a lot for my return trip.

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I am planning to drive from Durgapur with family to Pathankot last week of October. My initial thought was to stopover at Lucknow. However I am getting many suggestions to take Kanpur Etawah route and many are telling to go ahead with Raeberaily Lucknow route . We are starting at 4 am from Durgapur. Which would be faster and better to drive among these 3 between Varanasi and Agra stretch :-
Varanasi- Machli sahar - Raebareli-Lucknow (night halt)-ALE-YEW-Agra
Varanasi-Handia-Allahabad bypass - Raebareli - Lucknow (night halt)-ALE-YEW-Agra
Varanasi-Handia-Allahabad bypass - Kanpur (night halt) - Etawah-ALE-YEW-Agra
I would suggest you go for: Varanasi-Handia-Allahabad bypass - Raebareli - Lucknow (night halt)-ALE-YEW-Agra. This is the route we took. Although I have no idea about the other routes you mentioned, the YEW & ALE combined will compensate for the heavy traffic near Varanasi (Delhi side) and the bad roads near RaeBareli. I believe this is the only stretch in India where you can maintain excellent average speed for the entire 500KM distance. In fact, you can reach Delhi within 7 hours by the ALE-YEW.

Please update on the route after your journey. Since you will be travelling towards Delhi, I will be really interested in your trip so that I can plan my return

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Avi_swift, I need a help.
1. Should I undertake this road trip- GGN to Kolkata? Is it too risky without experience or enough skill set? I am planning for puja (mid October).
Hi Riju,
I am also planning to take a trip to Dumka(near Dhanbad) on 16-17 October. Maybe we can plan it together if that works. My longest drive in a day was Manali-Gurgaon (620kms) so I am thinking of taking a leap of faith and do Gurgaon-Dumka in 2 days. Hope this will help you find confidence

This thread has been a real help in initial planning for the trip. With inputs from previous posts and youtube vlogs, the route I am planning to take is:
16th - Gurgaon>Noida>Agra>Lucknow>Raibareli>Allahabad>Ban aras
17th - Banaras>Sasaram>Aurangabad>Champaran>Bagodar>Girid ieh>Madhupur>Dumka

Looking forward for the feedback from BHPians on the route and suggestion on good places to stay in Banaras
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I did this trip over 29th-30th August.
Thanks for a very detailed report.
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Reached Lucknow a little before 12 and went straight to a petrol pump. Till now the roads were superb but we were apprehensive of what laid ahead. And it did turn rough. In-spite of paying a toll, the stretch till RaeBareli was riddled with potholes.
I think taking the NH19 via Kanpur is probably going to be smoother and quicker, considering the section between LKO and NH19 via Rae Bareli is not in great condition, and wading through the traffic jam of LKO is no fun either.
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This snarl easily stretched on for more than a KM, in fact, I would not be surprised if it was 3-4 KM long.
That's usual. I've seen jams stretching for 15-20 km. It's the monsoons, and the diversions are in terrible shape. And the road has not been designed for 20-40-tonne trucks. Yet, we pay a very hefty toll.
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We spent the night in Varansi and next day, we started around 6AM.
Which hotel?
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...we were stuck for some time at the Sasaram toll. Again, the other side had much heavier traffic.
Sand-laden trucks and tractor trolleys cause this, especially in the early morning and evening. Midday or late evening / night are the times when this stretch is relatively empty.
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I simply don't understand how NHAI can charge money when the roads are that bad.
The private operator charges the money. NHAI and its babus receive a cut.
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And lastly, I want to enquire from the members here what to do with this?
Nothing. The system generates this challan automatically when speed limit of 100 kmph is exceeded, but the Traffic Police office at the Mathura plaza only acts upon it when the average speed is in excess of 105 kmph. The Gazette notification wording is: No cognizance of the violation of the speed limits shall be taken under section 183 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988, if the speed detected is within 5 per cent of the maximum speed specified in this notification, as seen at the link given by VineetG below.
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Attached is the gazzette notification, please look towards the end of document.
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I could be mistaken but the truck traffic you saw is there almost 365 days a year.
Indeed. Watch the videos posted by Leoshashi on another thread...
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The condition of GT road is such that 5-10 km long traffic jam isn't uncommon. Only thing you can do is, climb over dividers or drains(if possible) to wrong side, or get into nearby fields, navigate through unknown villages. I can only imagine how much stress free a 4WD SUV owner would be over this conditions. I had no option but to try those in my XL6, and except one part where a brick slipped and the nose hit the ground hard, the XL6 passed with flying colors. Ground clearance is adequate for all practical purposes.

Scene 1: I had taken an alternate route through a village to escape a 12km long jam on the highway. Drove almost 15 km, to reach this stretch filled with slush and bricks. Even the locals recommended not to try crossing that. Bikes were also struggling. I did a recce on foot and felt it can be crossed with gentle throttle input.

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=QXt_6wp9T-4

Couple of other situations where the XL6 had to be driven off the road:

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=8cm9y1Pm-dY

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=FW-tLTZwZhg
Going on the wrong side. This is absolutely normal in Eastern UP and Bihar:

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I had a query though. Did you need to carry permissions or where there any documentation checks at state borders?
There are no Covid-related checks or restrictions at interstate borders any more from Delhi to Kolkata.
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Avi_swift, I need a help.
I am a complete newbie in this. Recently did a Jaipur and Jodhpur trip from GGN 1 month apart (maximum 650 km in 12 hrs). I have the same vehicle like you, swift petrol 2016 model. And I am a lockdown learner.
Even today I stopped the car twice while struggling through traffic mixed of cars, big cars, trucks, jcb, bikes and scooties with 3 riders, cycles, pedestrians busy on Phones, cows and buffaloes, cars and bikes in a hurry from opposite side; everything packed in an almost non-existent road full of craters in GGN. So, this is my skill level!
1. Should I undertake this road trip- GGN to Kolkata?
Depends on your own self-confidence and the confidence of your passengers.
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3. After lucknow is it safe for women?
If you don't stop for extended periods of time, UP or any other place is safe for everyone. However, such stops may be unavoidable, with vehicle breakdowns, tyre punctures, crashes etc. that you have no control over as a newbie driver.
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4. Any suggestion for high end hotel for night stop at prayagraj / Varanasi, which will be near to the highway and not inside congested city...
Except Hotel Kaushik at Varanasi (which is certainly not a high end hotel by any standard), I don't know of any hotel at all, that is close to the highway near either city. But there are plenty of them inside these cities.

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The roads video by Leoshashi look exactly like I take everyday for my office commute (6 km between Hero Honda Chawk, GGN and society on DEW). Add bumper to bumper traffic, impatient and rowdy locals in heavy big vehicles, cattles-jumbo horned cows and healthy buffaloes, two wheelers, cycles, autorickshaw-small and Vikram auto, and cars, goods carriages coming from opposite in full speed! I guess I can do it, if required, to avoid the UP-Bihar border traffic jam.
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I think taking the NH19 via Kanpur is probably going to be smoother and quicker, considering the section between LKO and NH19 via Rae Bareli is not in great condition, and wading through the traffic jam of LKO is no fun either.

That's usual. I've seen jams stretching for 15-20 km. It's the monsoons, and the diversions are in terrible shape. And the road has not been designed for 20-40-tonne trucks. Yet, we pay a very hefty toll.
I don't know about the Agra - Kanpur - Allahabad section anymore because I don't have to take the Kanpur route anymore to go to Delhi from Lucknow. I had never driven on NH 19 from Kanpur to Allahabad either.

But taking the ALE to Lucknow and moving towards Raibareilly/Allahabad, you will not have to go through any of the congested roads of Lucknow. In fact, you will get only two traffic-lights points -- one at Alambagh intersection and the other at Telibagh junction. Also, this junction is on the eastern end of Telibagh and you have to take right from there, avoiding entering Telibagh per se. Once you execute this turn, you are on the four land toll road that takes you so till after Raebareilly. The road from Alambagh intersection to Telibagh is either six lane or eight lane at places and are roads less taken. Will give you smooth sail across.

Raebareilly, too, has now a flyover and you don't have to really enter the town. But, beyond that, you have a single carriageway, I mean undivided but broad enough road till Allahabad bypass. You get Unchahar and Kunda markets on the way, though it is not difficult in any sense to cross. Evenings will have a little more population on the road at these two places.

Yes, what needs to be watched over is the series of points and diversions where you could get long queues of trucks on NH 19, especially in the long section between Handia and Dobhi. Find out these points in advance, such as Sasaram toll, etc, and make diversions onto the other side of the highway in time. Otherwise, you will get stuck endlessly in those long lines.
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Hello guys,
I'm surprised to see travellers taking the Agra Lucknow Expressway all the way upto lucknow why? Is it Google?

On the ALE take an exit near Jaswant nagar(Etawah), which will connect you to AH1/NH19 via Kanpur allahabad varanasi. This is the route to take even if it has some widening (6 lane) work going on.

Taking lucknow Raebareli route is like, going through villages of yore.

All the best.
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