[sarmarishi]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

At one place this one trucker doing 5kmph would not let me overtake, driving in center, at a steep section when his speed fell slower, I overtook and slowed down and stopped.
He had to stop too. After that I took off, and in my RVM I could see the truck trying to start moving, but it kept stalling. Only fun part.

But be careful with them.
They are pretty open

I loved it. Serves him right. I wonder if he was able to move after that and I am quite sure you got some choicy words although you had vanished by then

All in all lovely travelouge as always. Hope to see you on the road again soon!

[tanwaramit]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Video of a small water crossing.
Water was not deep, but the rocks were very big. Had to slowly go through

The roads are scary in the video, especially the gorge in the right.

One can only pray that no other vehicle comes from the opposite side.

[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by sarmarishi

I loved it. Serves him right. I wonder if he was able to move after that and I am quite sure you got some choicy words although you had vanished by then

All in all lovely travelouge as always. Hope to see you on the road again soon!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by tanwaramit

The roads are scary in the video, especially the gorge in the right.

One can only pray that no other vehicle comes from the opposite side.

Yup they are. We got a bus, and had to reverse over 50 meters

[Joy]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Thanks!
.....
Yup they are. We got a bus, and had to reverse over 50 meters

50 meters is a long way in that kind of road. Do you have any reverse camera or something like that? Safari is a big car compared to the road.

[tsk1979]

Yes there is a reverse camera. but we did not rely on it. My wife was driving, and I was outside the vehicle guiding her.
Thats the best way to reverse on such roads.

[ptushar]

Awesome. Just awesome.

I am buying the Panasonic FZ-35. Could have done with the Safari too, but that will have to wait.

[dhanushmenon]

Amazing pictures. I can keep ogling over it the whole day!!!

To be very frank, I envy you!
For your skill in photography and also the places you visit

[stormerider]

Hi Tanveer,

went through the complete log, Just one word AWESOME!

few quick questions -

1. Will it be drive-able in a week? Can a 2wd Storme do this stretch at this time?
2. If I skip Chandertaal, can I do spiti valley in 3 days ex Delhi? or should I keep 4 days?
3. AMS?
4. Can you suggest a route?
5. Any Permits required?

Looking forward to your valuable inputs as I am planning a drive to celebrate my wife's birthday.

Thanks

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by stormerider

Hi Tanveer,

went through the complete log, Just one word AWESOME!

few quick questions -

1. Will it be drive-able in a week? Can a 2wd Storme do this stretch at this time?
2. If I skip Chandertaal, can I do spiti valley in 3 days ex Delhi? or should I keep 4 days?
3. AMS?
4. Can you suggest a route?
5. Any Permits required?

Looking forward to your valuable inputs as I am planning a drive to celebrate my wife's birthday.

Thanks

Until tsk responds in detail, let me clear a few things.

Chandertaal will not be motorable at this time. Of the 2 approaches, Rohtang opens in late May or early June. Kunzum opens by 2nd or 3rd week of June.

Also, considering the current weather in the valley this year - all the irregular snowfall/rains, the openings may get delayed further.

No permits are required for Spiti for Indian nationals. However, if you wish to approach Chandertaal from Manali, you will need a permit for your non-HP vehicle to cross Rohtang. No such permit required if you are crossing Rohtang from the other side - i.e. returning from Chandertaal and coming to Manali.

[stormerider]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

Until tsk responds in detail, let me clear a few things.

Chandertaal will not be motorable at this time. Of the 2 approaches, Rohtang opens in late May or early June. Kunzum opens by 2nd or 3rd week of June.

Also, considering the current weather in the valley this year - all the irregular snowfall/rains, the openings may get delayed further.

No permits are required for Spiti for Indian nationals. However, if you wish to approach Chandertaal from Manali, you will need a permit for your non-HP vehicle to cross Rohtang. No such permit required if you are crossing Rohtang from the other side - i.e. returning from Chandertaal and coming to Manali.

Does that mean that if I approach from shimla-Narkanda side, I can do the spiti valley area? But Kunzum and Rohtang will be closed so I wont be able to do a complete circle.
With the strange weather, What surprises should we plan for or should we decide against this area, as we will be accompanied by our 9 month old princess?

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by stormerider

Does that mean that if I approach from shimla-Narkanda side, I can do the spiti valley area? But Kunzum and Rohtang will be closed so I wont be able to do a complete circle.
With the strange weather, What surprises should we plan for or should we decide against this area, as we will be accompanied by our 9 month old princess?

From Shimla side, you could explore Narkanada, Sarahan, Reckong PEO, Kalpa, Rakchham, Chitkul etc. Read about a few landslides ahead of Reckong PEO towards Nako and a few bad slushy patches near Wangtu. With 4 days in hand exDelhi I guess it should be easy to cover all these places without taking any undue risk.

As for traveling with an infant, I guess rkbharat could help you with some advice as I have seen him traveling with his little one regularly (through the t-logs).

[sudev]

As a coincidence Tanveer should be driving in this area as per his plan. He is leading one of Escape Route journey's
(https://www.facebook.com/events/735326696488222/)

[stormerider]

Originally Posted by sudev

As a coincidence Tanveer should be driving in this area as per his plan. He is leading one of Escape Route journey's
(https://www.facebook.com/events/735326696488222/)

Which explains his non availability on the thread. Who knew, otherwise would have loved joining him on this section.

I am having second thoughts, as don't want to risk being stranded with the 2wd in snow/landslides with my daughter. In the absence of route conditions, I might give it a miss at this point.

[rkbharat]

Originally Posted by stormerider

Hi Tanveer,

went through the complete log, Just one word AWESOME!

few quick questions -

1. Will it be drive-able in a week? Can a 2wd Storme do this stretch at this time?
2. If I skip Chandertaal, can I do spiti valley in 3 days ex Delhi? or should I keep 4 days?
3. AMS?
4. Can you suggest a route?
5. Any Permits required?

While Tanveer might just have crossed Chango, talked to him last night, when he was in Pooh.

Few responses for you
1. yes, driveable in a week, 2WD will be all fine
2. If you skip Chandrataal, you still need atleast 6 days minimum for Spiti with Family.
3. If you go via Kinnaur, you acclimatize well.
5. No permits for Indian, except for Shipki La

4. This is what I suggest ex Delhi, assuming you are doing in Summer time:

At this point of time, road conditions are quite bad, and can close anytime, I was in Kaza on 28th March, and things were pathetic.

On Tight Schedule:

Day 1 : Delhi - Rampur, easily doable
Day 2 : Rampur - Kalpa
Day 3 : Kalpa - Kaza
Day 4 : Kaza and around, Kibber, Komic
Day 5 : Kaza - Manali
Day 6 : Manali - Delhi

Ideal Plan, this will give some time to sit back and relax
Day 1 : Delhi - Rampur, easily doable
Day 2 : Rampur - Kalpa
Day 3 : Kalpa - Nako
Day 4 : Nako to Pin Valley, staying at Mud
Day 5 : Mud - Kaza,
Day 6 : Kibber, Gete, Tashigang
Day 7 : Langza, Hikkim, Komic and then going upto Losar, night stay at PWD
Day 8 : Losar - Manali
Day 9 : Manali - Delhi

[torque18]

Hello

I am planning a trip to spiti in the first week of June. I will be on a sedan.

The plan is : day 1 - delhi to narkanda
day 2 - narkanda to kalpa
day 3 - kalpa to kaza
day 4 and 5 at Kalpa (try reaching Kunzum La and chandrataal if possible)
day 6 - kaza to sangla
day 7 explore sangla-chitkul region
day 8 - Sangla to Sarahan
day 9 - sarahan to delhi

I am not sure of the road conditions on this route. Will appreciate if the members can guide me with respect to the road conditions that i can expect and the viability of trudging cautiously in this region in a sedan.

Also, any advise on the itinerary is most welcome. Any specific place that is a must see in this region?

Thanks & regards