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| ![]() Replaced the set of Primacy 3STs on my Polo with another set last week after 90,000 km and 2 years, 9 months of usage. ![]() ![]() After using these tires and for the kind of use/abuse they were subjected to, I didn't want to go for anything else. The treads of the older lot after 90k km: ![]() After installation: ![]() The previous set was purchased during August 2015 before our Ladakh drive (related post). The newer stocks had 4217 imprinted on them which translates to an October 2017 manufacturing - not great but not too bad either. Just a little over 6 months. Getting a fresh stock in this part of the country (Palakkad) is hard as these tires aren't very popular here. Here's how I'd rate them: Comfort - 4/5 Handling - 3/5 Noise - 3/5 Wet grip - 4/5 Sidewall - 5/5 Longevity - 5/5 Amazing tires and great VFM. ![]() Last edited by Gannu_1 : 13th May 2018 at 15:18. |
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| ![]() My p3sts are 15k+ old, but I feel that they are not as silent as when new. Suddenly feel noisy like apollos - am i imagining or is it possible ? Also, the grooves are perfect nesting points for the small stones strewn on our roads - I used to remove them once a week, but roads near my place are pathetic nowadays with lots of construction activity - so have given up removing stuck stones over the past month or so. Could the stuck stones be the noise making agents ? |
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| ![]() How does the P3ST compare with the Earth 1 or the B250? In terms of comfort, longevity and grip |
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An alternative to the P3ST these days is the Continental MC5. There's a thread on it too. Please check that if you don't want to go the Michelin way. Personally I am using the P3ST on my 2nd car but my next change would be the new MRFs - Perfinzas. Check "Nikhilb2008" thread for a review on them. Very positive feedback from him - being used on his vRS. In case you need something more premium then please check Michelin Pilot Sport 4. Starts from 205 section with 16 inch wheels. Last edited by Aston Singh : 23rd May 2018 at 17:25. | |
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I think the problem is the age of the tyre. My tyres were installed in 2015, have only completed 3yrs, but the age of the tyre is almost 5 yrs as the manufacturing date was early 2014. P3ST were not easily available in the earlier days so had to compromise on the manufacturing date. ![]() What is the manufacturing date of your tyres ? Last edited by F150 : 14th June 2018 at 08:03. | |
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| ![]() I can confirm the presence of slight rolling noise. My tyres were installed in Sept '13 so now nearing 5 years old. This is with low mileage and mostly long distance highway use. I'm going to take the car to a tyre shop for tyre rotation and check if it improves. The tyres were last rotated in Dec '16. |
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Anyway, I had the tyres cross rotated today and the noise has reduced very slightly. But I guess I need to put up with it as it is too soon to replace these tyres each of which costs Rs 6,200 at the same tyre dealer where I got the rotation and nitrogen top up done. The mechanic pronounced the tyres as in good shape without any sidewall or other cracks howsoever minor. These are made in Thailand and designed for hot tropical climates. The Primacy LCs certainly had less rolling noise than the P3ST. It is the harder compound, hence crack, wear and deformation/bulge resistance in the P3ST that causes the rolling noise after the tyres have aged past 3-4 years. Last edited by R2D2 : 15th June 2018 at 19:12. | |
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The other annoying thing about the Primacy 3STs is that the tread pattern coupled with the soft compound causes innumerable small stones and pebbles to be lodged between them. I have given up trying to dislodge these and resigned to the fact that the 3STs will forever remain the micro pebble magnets amongst tyres ![]() Quote:
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() In my opinion, this is not a fair comparison. Earth 1 and 250s are very basic tyres. Maybe XM2s could be compared with them. P3ST needs to be compared with slightly higher segment tyres in its competition. |
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| ![]() Been on P3STs for around 1500kms now, but most of it has been in city conditions and so far, I've noticed nothing different from the earlier B250s. Shall report back once I do some highway runs or some twisties. |
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| ![]() Hi. I wish to buy P3STs for my GT TSI. Going by the reviews on Team-BHP, am upsizing to 195/60 R15. Can anyone recommend a good tyre dealer in and around Andheri East in Mumbai? Thanks in advance. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Finally bought a set of P3STs in 205/55/16 to replace my knackered Eagle NCTs. Love the new bulge :-) http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/bangal...ml#post4443874 |
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| ![]() I'm taking delivery of the Verna petrol and looking to upgrade the tyres. The stock tyre size is 195/55/R16. The P3ST is available in 205/55/R16 and was looking for feedback if this is the right size and any potential issues I may face. The tyre calculator shows a error of 1.77%, but my concern is around ground clearance. 205/55 might increase the size marginally (i guess 5mm), but would distance betweeen the wheel arch and the tyre reduce? Thanks in advance Cheers |
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