[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by R2D2

Ok folks, finally got 5 P3STs yesterday, stock size 195/65 R15 91V. Tyre MRP Rs 6,275 in MH, offered at 6,050/tyre.


PPS - Request Nikhilb2008 to share any tips on using and maintaining these tyres, it will be helpful for us non-BLR P3ST owners.

Congrats! This is a tyre I've been eager to try myself but my PLCs are still in great shape!

For maintenance, it's quite simple.

Get a pressure gauge (digital or analog, it doesnt matter) and keep checking it regularly. Maybe weekly or fortnightly. There will be a bit of variation between the reading shown on your gauge and the tyre shop's gauge but it doesnt matter. what is important is you have a benchmark.

Set it to 30 PSI on your gauge. Once it's set, use it for 1-2k kms and then increase it to 32 PSI. Use it for 1-2k kms and then reduce it to 28.

After this trial and error, you will find a sweet spot given your driving style, the steering feel, handling and ride comfort. Stick to that sweet spot. If that sweet spot is a little on the lower side liek 28, expect a bit less mileage but more grip. And vice versa.

Just get into a habit of looking at your tyres at least once a month. And if you do hit a pothole or something hard, please check all 4 tyres from the inside as well (get under your car or use a torch to check the inside of the tyre. ) This can save lives on highway drives.

[akshay4587]

Is P3ST available in 195/60/15?

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Congrats! This is a tyre I've been eager to try myself but my PLCs are still in great shape!

Thanks Nikhilb2008, this is much the type of care that I extended towards the PLCs.

I normally fill in 32 or 33 PSI depending on where I fill the nitrogen i.e. distance to the tyre dealer who is about 3 Kms away. This gives me the benefit of longer duration between top ups. The pressure never drops below 29 PSI even after 2 months. The leakage is about 1-1.5 PSI/month. I find 30-31 PSI to be spot on even for long distance highway runs.

The P3STs are great tyres and an improvement over the PLCs. It is pretty hard to discern the difference between the 2 models but I did give some of my initial impressions in my post. Have been travelling again and haven't had a chance to use the car for nearly a week. Itching to get back and take the car for a spin.

Originally Posted by akshay4587

Is P3ST available in 195/60/15?

Yes I believe the are. See here:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ml#post3189614

I saw your post in the Turanza thread. I think you should check out the Michelin PLC or P3ST. The Turanzas aren't bad at all, but the Michelins are noticeably better. My car came with BS Turanzas as OEM shoes. Once I tried the PLCs, the P3ST's predecessor, there was no looking back. It's Michelin every time.

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by akshay4587

Is P3ST available in 195/60/15?

It will be in a few weeks. As of now, in Bangalore at least, stock is not available.

[khoj]

A good looking tread design after a long long time on a Michelin, that too in the perfect upsize for my ride. Now only if I can locate suitable alloys in 16" dia with 114.3 pcd, 6" width, 42 offset, 5 spoke design, Gun Metal or similar finish but and it is a very important 'but' must have only 4 bolt holes. In other words multi pcd designs are an absolute no no.

Any pointers guys ?

Originally Posted by arunphilip

Surprisingly & confusingly, the website lists only one size: 205/55R16, despite the other sizes being discussed here.

It is a Mitsubishi Cedia. Will upload the current alloy picture (15" OZ racing) as my avatar snap.
Multi pcd designs appear unbalanced to my mind's eye, just do not care for the extra bolt holes.

Originally Posted by arunphilip

Which car is that, with a 114.3 PCD? Also, why don't you want multi-PCD designs?

[arunphilip]

Originally Posted by khoj

114.3 pcd. In other words multi pcd designs are an absolute no no.

Which car is that, with a 114.3 PCD? Also, why don't you want multi-PCD designs?

[Nikhilb2008]

Are you sure it is 114.3 PCD? I always assumed the Cedia was 100 PCD! I could be wrong though!

[khoj]

Cedia is 114.3 PCD with 4 lugs

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Are you sure it is 114.3 PCD? I always assumed the Cedia was 100 PCD! I could be wrong though!

[shetty_rohan]

Originally Posted by akshay4587

Is P3ST available in 195/60/15?

Michelin India has updated their website
http://www.michelin.in/tyre/viewall/526, and following sizes are available
225/50R17
225/45R17
205/55R16
205/60R16
225/55R16
215/55R16
195/65R15
195/60R15 Speed rating V

I have also checked with Tyre Empire(Whitefield), and the manager said it is available.

[Rocky_Balboa]

After running 44K on the Michelin PLC's and having had a tyre blowout at 60kph, it was time for a change for my SwifDy which has run 1.2L kms.

I stopped at Madhu's on Saturday and Nikhil was promptly waiting for me with four tyre choices. There were Michelin XM2, Continental, Yokohoma and Michelin P3STs; and when I was almost sold on XM2's, Nikhil suggested that I look at P3ST's.

Got them installed and I could feel the difference already, the ride's super silent and really gripping. Even my wife could feel the difference in the road manners and appreciated the choice.

Thank You Nikhil, I owe You one.

[torque18]

I see that XM 2 also has 195/60R15. Is this a new addition to the Energy XM2 series?

Anyway, now since Primacy 3 ST has officially arrived in 195/60R15 size so which one of the two would be a better option?

Regards

[manim]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Balboa

After running 44K on the Michelin PLC's and having had a tyre blowout at 60kph...

A tyre blowout can be dangerous? Can you share more details about how it happened?

I too have PLC's (on my Civic).

[shetty_rohan]

Originally Posted by torque18

I see that XM 2 also has 195/60R15. Is this a new addition to the Energy XM2 series?
Anyway, now since Primacy 3 ST has officially arrived in 195/60R15 size so which one of the two would be a better option?

According to http://paultan.org/2013/07/03/michel...laysia-launch/

The new tyre carries the Primacy middle name, which means it’s a touring tyre, and not in the ultra high performance category, which is catered for by the Pilot Sport 3 and Pilot Super Sport. It sits above the brand’s entry level Michelin Energy XM2 model.

http://www.zerotohundred.com/2013/au...d-longetivity/

Sitting above the brand’s entry level tyre; the Energy XM2 – the Primacy 3 ST promises to deliver 25% longer life than its predecessor and rivals.

Primacy 3 ST is better than XM2.
Note: Primacy 3 ST is also expensive than XM2.

[torque18]

But in all the reviews that I have read about these tyres it has been written that these wear down quite fast. Any comment on that front?

[shetty_rohan]

Originally Posted by torque18

But in all the reviews that I have read about these tyres it has been written that these wear down quite fast. Any comment on that front?

I guess you are talking about "Primacy" which had this problem. Whereas "Primacy 3 ST", with ‘ST’ meaning Silence Tuned, is designed and developed exclusively for Asia Pacific.

According to http://www.michelin.com.ph/Products-...macy_3_ST.html

MICHELIN Primacy 3 ST offers 25% more longevity compared to its previous generation*. The increased footprint width of MICHELIN PRIMACY 3ST puts more rubber in contact with the road.